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Well, roo late. Ive been on PLENTY of fligts where I was stuck for three-four hours waiting for depature due to weather/mechanical or....both! Let me ask you this...if you have a two and a HALF hour delay you just endured......you want to wait a bit longer and depart? Or you want to be pulled off and told "go home or back to your hotel and come back tomorrow?" Guess which option this dumb new law FORCES you to take?

Exactly...there are so many unique sitations and loopholes. If people have been waiting for two hours, but they have a takeoff window in 45 minutes..or if its mechanical related, the part they waited for its literally "on its way" from another airline its borrowed from or in the process of being installed, THEN what happens? I mean on arrivals, sure.....you find a !@#$ing gate and if no gate is available, you send a bus out to the tarmac and get the passengers in that way. Its fairly easy to take care of. But with departures...this is going to be a B word. People piss me off when it comes to air travel....even on a weather weekend like we just had, they act like they are ENTITLED to be taken sometimes THOUSANDS of miles without ONE OUNCE of heavy breathing. On a different, yet kinda related note, the 787 is amazing and if really as efficient and as passenger comfortable as Boeing claims, may put Airbus right out of business. And even WORSE for Airbus, the two best features of the Dreamliner, the wing and new cabin interior, is being carried over to the 747 and later, 737.

Dumb law. I know a buncha people who work for ATC, airport ops, etc. Its borderline unenforceable. And for the few times that it will be enforced, its going to result in even MORE inconvenience and cause delays and cancellations. But like MOST laws written these days...."sounds good." So "yay."

Right, becuase Trent Edwards was this great player, got to that "cesspool" in Buffalo and WHAMMMO!!!!!!!!....now he sucks. Im sure its the FANS that took his Marino-like abilities to stand tall in the pocket and turned him into Captian Checkdown. Is the FANS who took Mcelvin's brains from his head and put them in his ass...and took Maybin's away all togehter. Its the FANS saying "Van Pelt!!!!! Dont throw it to TO!!!!" Yep....its all OUR FAULT. Give me a break. Funny...I dont recall the situation like you spelled out above taking place with a certain crop of a few hundred players in the late 80s/early 90s.

As the same old tired "Buffalo Excuses"...its always SOMEBODY ELSE'S fault....its always "the circumstances." QB played bad? Its the OL's fault. OL played bad? Its the QB's fault. Whole Offense played bad? Its the OC's fault. OC didnt call good plays, its the HC's fault. HC stinks? Its the GM's fault. If its not the OL, its a headband...or a glove...or the weather......or an injury...or a coach who yells too much (or not enough) or doesnt have a headset on. And, of course....its ALWAYS "those referees who have it out for the entire WNY region!!!!!" Can we, as Bills fans, STOP THE !@#$ING EXCUSES? As if the Bills have all these "gems" on the field who are being "held back" by all those "circumstances" around them. Maybe the players just arent that good? Could it be? Nah.

Heard "85" on ESPN once and he is a lot more serious and on the ball than his "Ochocinco" personna lets on.

Someone should thrrow their shoe at Fewell during the presser. I dont care if he "doesnt deserve that." Hes a Bill. The !@#$ing Bills JANITOR deserves that.

And this is why Bill B. needs to die. Going LONg in this situation? !@#$ YOU, Bill. DIE.

I dont mean, you personally are pathetic, Tom. WQell, at least not for yoyur football opinions

Andhow !@#$ing pathetic is it,that as a fan the best you can say is "atleastthey went for it" UGH.

I think I give up.

Congratulations...you just described about 95% of football fans, in general.

I think Ill sit here behind my computer from the comfort of my warm office and throw up some self-righteousness and judgement on somebody who died that I didnt even know. Maybe when somebody I DO know gets a hangnail, I can lean on a LAMP post and ask for prayers...to ya know...show how "sympathetic" I am! Or maybe when get they forget the toy in my happy meal, I can whine about the "injustice" I endured. Yeah...thats the ticket!!!!!!!!!

Kinda like positng phony articles about a blue collar guy who may DIE becuase he's being "denied" health care under the current system. Which he WASNT.

I dont think most college kids are interested in 40 year old cokehead waitresses.

Lemme guess...."Night Train"

Add me to this list. We used to have friggin wrestling parties every Monday night at my pal's place, when WCW was at its peak. The NWO story line was really great. We didnt evewn go near MNF unless it was a Bills game or a real big one like Dallas/San Fran or something like that. I dont mind admitting that Ive put on TNA a few times on Thurs nights and its acutally not bad. If you liked WCW and in the mood for some guilty pleasure nostalgia TV, put it on. VERY WCW-like. On a somewhat seperate note, I FINALLY saw The Wrestler and LOVED the wrestling specific parts (and Marissa Tomei, but I digress). Reminded me of the "old" ECW matches.

Spo !@#$ing clear Maybin is being misused.

As yes, the ole "Lance is a doper" line.

Are we done now? Jesus.

Thanks, Booster. Im sorry I dragged you into this.

Good God....saying practicing outside would have prepped them better for that Cleveland game is like saying practicing in the rain would have prepped them for playing during Katrina.

The guys at the front have the primary responsibility but youve got a good point and YES...the groups sometimes split. Also depends on the size of the group...if its less than five, youre all making the light. More than that and yes, it often splits.

Ill say it again... We NEVER just plow right on through a red light like we own the road. EVER. PERIOD. Ill add some more....EVERY traffic light approached regardless of its state, the leader of the group (or me, if solo) has the responsibility of evaluating the intersection sitation and judging whether to proceed at speed or prepare the group to stop/yield. If clear, s/he informs the group to proceed wit ha loud shout of "clear!" or tells the group to stop with a warning such as "car left, car right, car back or car forward."

Hey Jim......for the most part, I agree with you. The only place where we part company is the fact that you STILL, for some idiotic reason....think I condone and agree with the practice of blowing through lights and stop signs with no sense of safety or courtesy. I do not now, nor EVER say that I condone cyclists emplying such behavior. The only time I said I did, was as a completely sarcastic response to this thread going south. So, for some crazy reason, Im going to try and restate my postion here again. I hope maybe THIS TIME, youll read and understand. Here goes...... Approaching the red light: Regarding lights and stop signs, it goes like this....You come to a light. You stop or slow to a standing roll. If there is traffic at the light, you 100% stop, unclip and even move to the side of the road so that traffic that might be making a right turn can do so. This is how its done. ALL THE TIME. NOW....if there is no traffic at light, such as early in the AM...or if there was traffic and and ALL of it passes and there is CLEARLY no more in sight approaching the intersection....and it is 100% safe to proceed, then we typically will make the judgement that its safe to move forward and proceed before the light turns green for car traffic. If there is ANY indication that traffic will approach or that proceed through a light could cause ANY problem for either us or car traffic, we will wait out the light until it is green. But what if the light turns red right as we approach it? If thats the case, then we will make our presense known to whatever traffic is in the intersection, most likely by making eye contact with the driver, and make the call to proceed on through or stop, depending on whether or not the traffic is going to allow us to proceed or not. 90% of the time the car traffic will wave us on by....just like a driver might pause at a green light to allow a pedestrian to finish crossing the street, or maybe allow someone to pull out of a driveway. We NEVER just plow right on through a red light like we own the road. EVER. PERIOD. Clear? So your other talk about mindlesly blowing lights rergardless of the traffic conditions, riding the wrong way down streets and on sidewalks? There is no place for that. Ever. Period. I dont know how I could be clearer on that. If these idiotic types are the ONLY cyclists you EVER come across, Im sorry. They piss me off as much as they do you. My original point....waaaaaay back in this thread, was to try and point out that we arent all like this and although our opinions on what traffic rules cyclists are beholden to differ a bit, most, myself included operate with both safety and courtesy to others as a primary concern. We LIVE by the creed of "Share the Road" and are WELL aware that its a two-way street, no pun intended. Look, man...Im well aware that one wrong move and Im dead. All that talk about outrunning cars was just bravado. Ive gone down and have had more than one friend go down and wind up close to dead due to being being drilled by a car. Want to know what crashing on a bike is like? Seriously? Get in your casr, strip down to your underwear, get up to about 35 MPH, open your car door...and jump out. Thats what its like. And it !@#$ing suuuuuuuucks. You reallllly think I want to risk my safety and that of others? Seriously? You think Im so "smug" that Id operate in a dangerous way and risk eating my meals through a straw or worse, leaving my kid fatherless? Come on now. Be serious. And the fact that lots of people in this thread are having a ball stating they would ENJOY taking a cyclist down.....Im sorry, thats !@#$ing scary. Even if you come across some moronic hipster acting like an ass, the answer is drilling him with your car? What the !@#$ is wrong with you people? Finally, regarding whats going on in Brooklyn, I think the whole thing is sad. Sad that the Hipsters and Hasidm are acting so self-important and sad that the City is being so hamfisted about a solution. Here is some good persepctive from a great blogger. And yes, his name is......SNOB: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/ I hope this clears it up once and for all.