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This mock shouldn't be taken seriously, so no need to worry. It is interesting that neither Vontae Davis nor Darius Butler are in the 1st round, yet Alphonso Smith and DJ Moore are. While I don't think CB is a high need I do think alphonso smith will become a solid starter in this league. Physically he would remind you of Jabari Greer, but he is a bit more physical and an absolute ball hawk, just look at the number of interceptions he had. I agree that we have more pressing needs than CB though, although that pick wouldn't shock me. DJ Moore on the otherhand, yuck. No way this guy is selected in the 1st round.

Poor mans Vernon Davis, pass. I wouldn't even want him in the third round to be honest.

2 questions: Who is Sedrick Ellis' agent? and how did he get that much money? On another note look for the #7 pick this season to have a lengthy holdout.

Hello Donte

C, hands down.

Update Nolan Nawrocki and PFW have the newly updated Draft Value Chart for this week. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...value041409.htm

Interesting and informative article over at PFW. Just wanted to pass it on. And for those of you who still think Peters play was top notch last year, think again. I know his league leading sacks allowed have been discussed here before and many have brought up the fact that this is a very subjective stat. You may be right, but the stats don't lie, and he better get his butt in shape if he's still on this team come next year. If you were to disregard half of the sacks Peters allowed (which is overly optimistic) he would still be in the bottom half of the league for sacks allowed. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr.../rock041409.htm

Unless you're a proven commodity like a Jason Taylor You DO NOT wait until after the draft to sign a contract. Teams who would maybe consider Losman to fight for a backup spot could very well draft a late round QB, and consequently have no need to sign Losman after the draft. The reason for him waiting it out is NOT because Losman wants to go to a team without a logjam at QB it is simply because no team has an interest in his services. And I just decided that this will be my last post about JP Losman, time to move on! Keeping my fingers crossed that better QB's lie ahead.

What is funny is that the Bills neglected to extend Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements, and Jabari Greer and they will probably extend Whitner if he has at least a so so season this upcoming year. I'm not talking about signing these guys once they hit FA, but the bills never had the foresight to sign these solid starters w/ a couple of years left on their contract to a fair deal for both sides. All 3 cornerbacks could have been signed to much more reasonable deals for the Bills had they been extended with a year or 2 left on their contract. I'm sure a guy like Greer would have jumped on a 5 year - $20 million extension last offseason, but the Bills were 1 year too late with their offer. And while I think the Florence signing was decent, I do not think he is half the player Greer was or will be. That has been the biggest problem facing this franchise the last decade. The true difference makers simply walk out the door after their first contract expires for the most part. The players that get the extensions always seem to be the middle of the road valuable (aka cheap) starters like Roscoe Parrish, Brad Butler, Chris Kelsay, and Ryan Denney. Notice I didn't include Terrence McGee because that was actually a solid move by the front office to retain an upper-echelon starter. Then what happens is they slightly overpay for average starters (Langston Walker & Chris Kelsay) so the better starters demand more money (Aaron Schobel and Jason Peters). Schobel actually got his extension, which in hindsight was a horrendous deal for the Bills. It just seems that our front office has lacked a long term vision for the success of this team. They need to do a better job of evaluating talent and locking that talent up prior to contract years, plain and simple.

Connor Barwin, DE from Cincinnati WILL NOT be drafted in the first round of the NFL draft. After listening to and reading many college evaluators reports (guys who generally get these things right like Mike Mayock and Nolan Nawrocki) it is obvious that Barwin is no where near a 1st round talent. Most have him graded as a third round talent at best. No way in hell he goes in the 1st though.

I recall having a debate with another poster on this board that JP Losman would need a stroke of luck to be employed by the NFL after the 2009 season. My thinking was that some team would give him a 1-2 year deal to compete for a backup spot, and he'd stick for a year before eventually losing the backup battle. The other poster said that I was crazy and that JP would be a serviceable backup in the NFL for the next 4-5 years at a minimum ala David Carr. Well anyhow I forgot who the poster was, but just wanted to point out that you greatly overrated JP's value in this league. I'm not saying you were wrong, yet, after all free agency is not over, but I'm sticking to my claim. Judging his football talent alone the guy is an absolute bum. His slow decision making won't even allow him to stick as a backup QB in this league, IMO. You will not see or hear about JP after the 2009 football season. Anyone still disagree?

This is guy that I think would be a great player for the Bills, whether it be at LB or SS. Glad to see the Bills had him in for a visit, which doesn't really mean much. I think he fits somewhere into the 2nd round. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/09/...st-draft-stock/

I also appreciate Tim's contributions on this board it makes it a more valuable site to visit, just as a homer fan I could have done without reading that article, fair or not.

Nonetheless a precedent has been set. Marshall had his 3 game suspension reduced to 1. I believe Marshawn should receive the same reduction or if Goodell really wants to stick to his guns perhaps he reduces it to 2. The NFL wants to punish player who break the law off the field, and I'm all for that. However what bothers me is they have yet to step up to the plate when it comes to players who consistently break the RULES on the field. And if you don't know who I'm talking about it is Vince "blatant cheap shot" Wilfork. Not trying to turn this into an anti-Patriot post, but I am still bothered that he has never received a suspension for his on the field tactics. It's so blatantly obvious that he has attempted to purposely injure opposing players on the field (Losmans knee, Jacobs eye ball, Cutlers head and on and on). At least now we have the new Brady rule so DE's can no longer attempt to sack the quarterback once they fallen to their knees (sarcasm). Wilfork avoids suspension link: http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...ids_suspension/ Also, help us out here Tim, we as fans don't want to see the guy on the pine for 3 weeks. I thought you were the man with the cold hard facts, not the subjective commentary pieces. I had to double check to make sure it wasn't Chris Mortensen writing that article.

I liked Poz more coming out of college than I do Cushing. In most of his highlights RB's drive for a couple more yards after Cushing's first contact. You're basically getting a guy with a very similar skill set to Poz who we got with pick #34, no thanks.

Notice I didn't bring up Aaron Maybin because I really don't want him. With my luck HE will end up being the best defensive player to come out of this draft, leaving me to look like a fool. For now though, I'm sticking to my gut feeling that he won't pan out in the NFL.

I totally agree with your point here. My belief is that Orakpo will be off the board (Texas players....scare me). I agree with your point on Ayers and Jackson and I'm still not sure who I like better, although I believe Ayers could be a better fit for our defense. A couple of weeks ago I absolutely loved Everette Brown and his quickness off the edge, but I've cooled on him a bit lately. Some of the guys I respect like Mike Mayock don't seem to have as high a view on him as I do and I don't pretend to know more than those guys. Tyson Jackson from a physical standpoint reminds me a lot of Richard Seymour and if the Bills see him as that type of player I think he would be tough to pass up at #11. My gut tells me that Ayers is the type of football player that Tom Modrak will really push for and I don't think he will be around beyond pick 20, so if we want him we shouldn't trade down too far, if at all. My question is this: Do you take BJ Raji over the triumvirate of (Tyson Jackson, Robert Ayers and Everette Brown) if all 4 are on the board? I know many will flame me for even thinking he will be there at #11, but I can envision a scenario now where Raji lasts until our pick, one that I didn't think was possible a few weeks back. And does Raji fit into what we do on defense (I would hope so)?

Fixed, sorry about that.

FWIW if the decision was between Aaron Maybin and Tyson Jackson I would much rather have Jackson. I know he may not be an ideal pass rushing DE (more of a 3-4 DE) but his play against the run more than makes up for it. He's also a guy who could be moved inside on 3rd downs to get after the passer. Aaron Maybin is one guy I don't want the Bills to touch, just a gut feeling.

Just wanted to pass on the first Draft Value Chart posted over on profootballweekly.com, which will be updated every Wednesday leading up to draft day. For anyone who isn't familiar with the site, the guy is a respected college talent evaluator who has had some very impressive mock drafts the past few years. Anyways just thought I'd pass on the link, as sometimes it is difficult to navigate their site and find this stuff. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...value040709.htm To give you an idea of what his first 2008 draft value chart looked like (keep in mind he edited it several times leading up to the draft, this one was nearly 3 weeks from the draft): http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...alue040808a.htm And lastly for anyone who hasn't yet seen his impressive mock draft from last year: http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr.../mock042608.htm

My buddy and I do our own mock draft pool with what I think is a pretty good scoring system. Basically we both put together our own mock drafts of the 1st round only. If I pick Matt Stafford #1 overall and he goes #1 I receive 0 points. On the other hand if I choose Matt Stafford #1 overall and he goes #10 I receive 9 points. Whoever has the lowest amount of points after the first 32 picks wins. So things don't get too out of control we cap the total number of points for one player at 32. Meaning if I pick Max Unger 32nd overall to the Steelers and he actually doesn't end up being drafted until the middle of the 3rd round I only get 32 points (max. allowed) rather than 40 + points. $50 whoever come out of the 1st round with the least amount of points. Then to spice things up a little we do a side bet for most correct players to the correct team. That way you are also directly rewarded for picking the right player to the right team. Just figured I'd pass it along for anyone looking to have a little more excitement during draft day with a friend or 2 who enjoy a little gambling. $5 for each correct player to the correct team. I've never found a site that does anything like this online, if anybody knows of anything close to it let me know.

Here are my 6 FWIW: Everette Brown Brian Orakpo Robert Ayers Ray Maualuga Michael Oher Andre Smith Personally, I don't see the Bills taking Pettigrew at 11, too high for a TE who isn't even a difference maker in the passing game. The guy had 0 TD receptions last year. Only way I want the Bills taking him is in a trade down.

So coaches now hold press conferences prior to the trade, just to make sure all the fans fully understand the trade........nice.

Now that we know Whitner checks in on the forum I have a quick comment: The criticism from the fans about your play is amplified due the fact hat you were a top 10 pick. We are not questioning your desire or love for football, or even the hard work you put into your profession, but some fans here are simply pointing out the facts. To this point in you career you have not lived up to the expectations of many fans, plain and simple. You are correct that not everyone on this board knows a lot about the X's and O's of football, but many fans do and many of them watch you in person on Sundays, myself included. This is part of what comes with athletes in your profession, you make a good living, but you are open to criticism. Don't worry about what we say, just go out and back up your swagger ON THE FIELD.

Connor Barwin is a mid round prospect. No way i want the Bills to spend a high 2nd round draft choice on that guy.