Brand J

I proposed this a while ago. Flutie is actually a witch doctor from Mozambique and unless we make it right by him, i.e. apologizing, we'll have to wait his full 15 year sentence of not making the playoffs. Until those years are up, we'll continue to draft the incorrect players, make the wrong FA choices, and dwell in mediocrity.

You're right, they probably didn't look at his previous three years and 30+ starts worth of tape. If they did, there's no way he would've been favored from the start.

Yet another fat guy who got his money and lost his hunger. Everyone plays hard for and wants that big pay day. The players who care, the ones who want to leave behind a legacy, continue to strive to get better..

I don't recall anyone here anointing Brohm as a savior, or the QB of the future. Everyone has acknowledged that he would struggle as a starter. The difference is, he has room to grow and improve. The prior starter has had over 3 years of playing experience at the NFL level and has FAILED to improve. That is fact. Somehow, this fact made its way past Chan Gailey. Actually, I believe Gailey was arrogant enough to think that he could make Trent into a serviceable QB. The argument was such: rather than seeing a veteran continue to fail, why not bring in the young guy, who has at one point enjoyed a level of success (10,000+ yds and 70 TDs at Louisville). I understand that you dislike Brohm as a player, but you have absolutely no reason to hate him just yet. He has not proven to play "Trentative" on the field..

Fixed.

Is that not what we're doing already?

Hahaha.. fair enough.

I HATE when people dig up these posts.. It throws the optimism of the season right back in your face. Notice however, you won't find any posts from me declaring a successful season. When Chan announced Trent the starter, I waited quietly for him to fail and boy has he ever.

So far, there has only been one opposed to him starting - Throwit. Throwit's weak argument was countered. Where are the rest who believe that Brohm shouldn't be handed the keys? Let's hear from you..

He has a lot on his plate: HC, OC, no QB, and no OL.

You want to go where?! NO!! I will not throw you to the WRs!! I'll never give you up!! I'll NEVER GIVE YOU UP!! LEE CAN'T HAVE YOU!

Yes, because players who haven't played extensively, never turn their careers around. You're right, the book is already out on him, he can never improve. Lesser QBs have been given more of an opportunity to prove themselves. You think every QB comes into the NFL ready to throw 300 yd, 3 TD games?! You could take your stance if he had never proved to be a capable player in the past, but since he has, he could absolutely improve with experience and confidence <--- the most important aspect to any player's game. Those who think otherwise, haven't played a sport on any level..

This is also largely a misnomer.. Trent only had one good preseason game - it was the game against the Bungles. He was terrible against the Redskins, was terrible against the Colts until he hit a wide open Lee, and was pedestrian against the Lions. Make no mistake about it, it was the CJ Spiller show. Since the offense had so much success moving the ball and scoring TDs, we'd like to think that Edwards had something to do with it. He didn't.

I think it definitely matters sullim.. Brohm isn't a 30 something, journeyman QB, with multiple starts under his belt. He is a young, unproven QB, who has enjoyed success in the past - albeit at the collegiate level. Find out what you have in him, the NFL always has stories about guys who finally find their way.

There is absolutely no entertainment value in watching the Bills "play" football. They are currently led by a Dick Jauron clone and I'd like to have a reason to turn on Bills games moving forward. The year they went 3-13 (I believe it was 2003..?) I watched every game, because I was interested in seeing who would be a player in the future. I'd never imagine that 7 years later, I'd still be waiting for a competitive team. Here is why I am FOR starting Brian Brohm: He may not currently be better than Edwards, though this is debatable, but he has something that Edwards lacks - the ability to improve. Edwards has over 30 career starts, while Brian Brohm has a single career start. One. If I am going to watch a team fail and fail miserably, I don't want to see the team being led by a 4th year, emotionless player, who looks worse than most rookies. Brian Brohm was a highly successful collegiate player, who has yet to transfer those skills to the NFL level. With extended playing time, he would sink or swim as a starter and we'd know for sure what we have in him. For those already chalking him up as a failure, allow him multiple starts to prove, or disprove himself, before being absolutely sure in your assertion. He seemed to make quick decisions in the preseason and also threw a nice football. I realize that our OL is a siege, but a quicker decision maker could do a lot to mask OL deficiencies. Edwards may be the slowest decision maker in the entire NFL. He is also the most reluctant QB to throw down the field and "throw open" his WRs. Give Brohm his shot, thereby giving me a reason to watch this team, this season.

Randy Cross is an idiot.

We won't win a game until the slowest decision maker in the NFL is replaced. That is a fact.

Yeah, this is my first time seeing him perform. He looks goofy, sort of like, "Peyton Manning meets Sam Bradford", but he definitely knows how to play the position. His mobility, smarts, and accuracy, give him the edge as the top QB. That said, he probably won't come out this year. Who knows when we'll get our QB.

I remember Brohm converting 3rd and long situations in the preseason. One of them, a beautiful pass to a Chad Jackson who is no longer with this team. I remembered thinking, "so that's what 3rd and long conversions look like." Chan, you KNOW what kind of players TrINT and Fitz are when the lights come on, find out what Brohm has!!

I stopped reading after your thread title. Of course he is a better option, that's why he rightfully took TrINT Backwards' job last year. I'd like to see Brohm on the field though, sooner rather than later.

Should've kept Scott and Incognito. I remember when Raiders fans were laughing that we signed Green, while many on this board were saying, "he's a veteran stop gap. He'll be ok, much better than what we had last season." Sadly, the Raider fans were correct in their assessment. This OL: LT-Bell/LG-Levitre/C-Wood/RG-Incognito/RT-Scott, looks better than: LT-Bell/LG-Levitre/C-Hangartner/RG-Wood/RT-Green.

Can't really see TrINT talking trash on the field. He isn't that type of player and doesn't carry that sort of arrogant confidence. Now, I could see him asking an opposing DL to sit down and have a cup of tea with him; that's the TrINT Backwards that I know and despise. Maybe he talks about flowers, rainbows, and gumdrops, during the games, and opposing teams hate him for trying to bring their players to his level of "Charmin soft"..

I know you have undying faith in your boy Trent, Dog, but I have to agree with the masses: this is one of the worst Trent defense arguments ever constructed on this board. According to you, Gailey could have told Trent, "Trent, I know we need a TD to win this game, but if you don't see anything open downfield, don't throw it. I would rather you run around in the pocket than risk an interception. People will use that interception against you weeks from now. On this last play, throw another check down to end this game. Let's go home."

Given your choice - and your only choice is between these two - would you rather have a QB who only throws bombs (i.e. 40 yard passes minimum, time after time), or would you rather have a QB who checks down all the time (i.e. 0 - 5 yd passes maximum). Me..? Bombs away!!

F*** NYC!! They'd rather show MIN and MIA, than another team in the same state?! Only time NYC shows the Bills, is when they play the Jets.