Good point, and therein lies one of the ironic aspects to this situation in light of Chef Jim's comments: I would bet the house that if faced with a situation where some outside threat was putting the kids at risk, it would be very clear that she's not "weak" at all. I've seen that sort of mentality quite a lot with her demographic and those who are older. When it comes to "protecting their young", so to speak, they'd throw down in a heartbeat to do exactly that. And probably those four "tough guys" would shart all over themselves, not having any idea what to do.