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I think half of his passes today went out of bounds, the other half were in the grasp of Bucs' defenders.
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Yes.
Ron Edwards doesn't belong in this league. Year 3, contract year, and he's flat-out awful against scrub o-linemen.
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How bout the entire D? I mean, I know the O didn;t help them out - but one sack? 128 yards for cadillac? we're making the Bucs OL look like world beaters... c'mon defence- you gotta do more than that to be assessed alongside the 85 bears...
Also - McGahee gets a goat - boy he starts slow and doesn't really get going at all today huh? What gives?
One sack because of the three-step drops - no surprise there. Cadillac ran through the same hole over and over again - let's call it the "Ron Edwards Hole."
Agreed re: McGahee. Just make your cut, and run upfield, you ass.
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Just a young offense growing up - it is better than the Bledsoe era, because they were at least competing on offense until the end. Give it time - I for one am not surprised by this (in fact I predicted it, and got blasted). I do think some things need to be addressed - Ron Edwards can't play in this league, Willis needs someone to tell him to make one cut and run straight ahead, and the receivers need to start making plays. But, this was all to be expected.
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Edwards was manhandled today - all day. The Bucs saw some film on him and decided they could move him out of the way whenever they wanted to - and they did. In your fuggin' contract year Ron, play with some balls and muscle if you want to get paid.
Moorman, what gives? That's two games in a row - not like you. We'll give you a break here, since you were our MVP last season, but you need to turn it around for this team to be successful.
Anyone else? JP was, well, a first-time starting QB on the road against a top-5 defense. Bledsoe wouldn't have done any better, so I can't rip him too much.
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My least-favorite Coen's flick. Have no clue what they were doing with it. Check out "Miller's Crossing" - a far more coherent movie.
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Really? Perhaps you didn't notice what the Bucs D-line did to Minnesota's O-line last week. MacFarland was unblockable (granted, Minn was missing Birk); Spires and Rice are extremely quick off the ball and often win their matchups. I'm not so sure I'd pick our O-line in this one if someone put a gun to my head...
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i wish you had posted this instead of calling it a "near-impossible" game for buffalo to win. other than the "bills win 35-0" idiots who always predict a buffalo rout, i think EVERYONE expects a tough game and your points are valid.
personally, i think the bills' D is smart enough to overcome gruden's schemes, and tampa won't score more than 2 offensive TDs (unless they're starting drives deep in buffalo territory).
the key (as i posted in another thread) is the buffalo running game. 35+ carries between mcgahee and gates/williams (assuming no great disparity in the TO battle), and buffalo wins.
I agree with what you've said - but I ask, when is the last time the Bills beat a top-5 defense on the road? I think you'll have to go back to Flutie's TD pass to Jonathan Linton in Baltimore. That's why I said "near-impossible." I'd LOVE for this game to be a reversal of that trend.
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I'm usually an optimist. Anyone who predicts a Bills loss (this is the first one I've predicted in awhile) gets blasted around here, and I think for good reason - we're a fan message board, need to get each other pumped up for the game, etc. Been a fan a long time, and it's really been awhile since I've seen this team win a game like this - tough defense, loud road crowd, etc. And, I'll tell you, I think our D is where we struggle in this one - Gruden is a master at taking advantage of over-aggressive linebackers - his offense is designed specifically to attack defenses like ours, by making our linebackers worry about formations and pass coverage which will in turn open up the running game. If the Bucs score a couple TDs before halftime, we'll be forced to throw, and that ain't good. If our D can keep it close at the half, it's a different story. Anyhow, I hope I'm wrong, but I see this as a really, really tough game.
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I'm in the (annoying) minority around here - I think this game is near-impossible to win. I'm predicting 17-6 Bucs - I just don't see us moving the ball.
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Jerry Gray = next year's coach of the Houston Texans. We'll miss him.
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I'm not as confident as many in here. Their run game can be pretty darned good. Their o-line is smaller and athletic, they are conditioned, and they are fast. Dan Buenning is their LG and he is known as a GREAT pulling guard.
Ron Edwards was not heard from at all last game. I haven't heard a single thing about him on the telecast, from ANY coaches, Bills Digest, TD, sports "writers", or three message boards. I mean NOTHING. That doesn't seem to positive to me. Thank goodness Sam Adams is wide enough to cover both positions, but will Edwards show up this game???
The other thing, with Cadallic Williams is a pass catcher too. Look for a quick three step from Greise, a pull from the center and/or guards, and a pass to Williams or their TE.
Mularkey isn't the only one with tricks up his sleeve.
This will be a tough game.
I agree and disagree. Ron Edwards played a SOLID game against the Texans. He did his job and then some. I was especially impressed by his lateral movement - he was able to slide off blocks and make tackles far to his left or right, something I hadn't seen from him before.
I agree though that the Bucs offense is being underrated by folks here. As I said in another post, the Bucs specialty is their quick underneath passing game, which will force our linebackers to worry about coverage and, in turn, should open up some running lanes for Cadillac. Plus, the Bucs will avoid making the same mistake the Texans made - they will throw quite a bit on first down, to obtain some second and 3 or 4s, which also favors the running game (because the D has to play both the pass and the run on such downs, and is especially susceptible to playaction).
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Great job Lori.
The wild card in all this is that Losman will be playing a top notch veteran D on the road for the first time in his career. This is one game I think Malarkey plays it close to the vest on offense - even if we punt 5 straight times, I don't think he lets Losman freewheel, even as much as the Texan game. I like our chances against their offense, and as you mentioned, special teams may be our best opportunity to break off a big play.
This is how I see it unfolding, too. My prediction is that the Bills have a frustrating first half on offense, and the key will be getting to halftime without making too many mistakes/turnovers. I predict the Bucs lead 10-3 or 13-3 at the half, but IT WON'T BE OVER. The reason I'm predicting this is that the Bucs D represents a unique challenge for JP & Co:
The Bucs play almost exclusively a Cover-2, which has a number of key characteristics. They'll start the game with two safeties back, meaning that there are only very small, tight windows to throw the ball, if any. The key to their execution is their d-line's ability to handle the other team's o-line - create pressure and stop the run - without any help (although they love the occasional corner or safety blitz to mix things up). And, frankly, against anything but a great line, the Bucs' d-line usually wins the battle. That means a lot of 2nd and 3rd and VERY long - expect Willis to get stuffed for no gain/loss of a yard or two on first downs throughout the first half, which will allow the Bucs safeties to stay back, which will make passing extremely difficult. JP really needs to just be patient and not force anything - play the field position game until our D or special teams can make something big happen.
On offense, the Bucs are much more savvy and sophisticated than the Texans were. Knowing Gruden, he's been studying film on the Bills O all week, and he'll pick up on the fact that the Texans actually were able to gain positive yardage when they ran their piece-of-crap designed rollout plays, which let Carr focus on half the field and throw to his tight ends. Gruden LOVES these plays and he LOVES his tight ends, and he'll realize that the key to the Bucs' success will be their ability to get our linebackers running away from the line of scrimmage and having to focus on tight ends and backs in coverage. Expect a TON of short-range passes towards the middle of the field to soften up our linebackers into "coverage" mode, which will in turn open up running lanes for Cadillac. The key to the game for the Bills D is their ability to stay disciplined and not overpursue - especially at linebacker. This will be tough for our D, IMO, but if they stay patient they can make some things happen against a weak Bucs o-line.
In all honesty, there are two ways this game can unfold - the Bills can be getting whooped by halftime, in that case I see the score 19-6 Bucs. However, if the Bills stay patient, disciplined, and mistake-free, I see them pulling off a squeaker, 16-13.
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Obviously, even though I'm a shade under 5'6'', if I just executed better I'd be in the NFL.
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No team ever gameplanned around or away from Talley - great, solid player, but not even close to TKO's league.
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Frank Middleton.
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Actually Simon I thought they ran quite a few zone blitz "looks" - at least, they'd line up Kelsay all over the line (often at d-tackle next to Adams), and he'd either drop into coverage a few yards back off the line, or rush on a stunt. I think they were content to make the Texans worry about the zone blitz, whether or not they used it.
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I stand by my original comments - Drew lost zip on his mid-range passes over the last few seasons, especially by the end of those seasons. Bill, I think you misunderstood the point I was making: the velocity on the mid-range passes is especially necessary in a cold climate. Montana (except for his ill-fated KC stint) and Young didn't play in one; Cunningham had his best years in a dome. Flutie couldn't throw the deep out, which limited the offense in the cold weather.
I'm NOT trying to revive old topics or take a shot at anyone - why go there, Bill? I'm simply saying that I finally saw JP up close (I've seen Kelly, Iron Rob Johnson, Collins, Flutie, Bledsoe up close too), and I'm telling you this kid has more of a gun than any of them except perhaps Kelly. It will definitely come in handy.
As an aside, I agree with the posters who say they'd rather have someone who can throw the 15-yard outs than someone who throws a pretty deep ball. Kerry Collins, Bledsoe and Jeff George throw the nicest deep balls I've ever seen - and I wouldn't want any of them in a playoff game in the cold weather.
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Bet he didn't even work there.
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It was incredibly apparent, seeing it live and up-close, that Losman has an absolute gun for an arm. He threw the 15-yard out amazingly fast and laser-like, both in the pocket and rolling to his right.
I think one of the overlooked reasons the Bills jettisoned Bledsoe was that, especially as the seasons wore on, he seemed to have lost velocity over the last few years - he still throws a pretty deep ball, but doesn't have too much "zip" on his mid-range throws for whatever reason. In Buffalo in December, that won't cut it.
Losman, by contrast, certainly has the arm to succeed in this city. I know everyone has said that, but I needed to see it for myself up-close, and man, was I impressed.
One of many positives from yesterday, my two cents.
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OMG Michigan is playing the fuggin Patriots today. Lloyd Carr v. Charlie Weiss? Gonna be a long day for the Blue... man that offense is efficient.
Injury update - Williams/Fletcher
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Since you have a tape, can you confirm that the Bucs' scrub o-linemen simply scooted Ron Edwards out of the way on something like 8-9 long runs by Cadillac?