Coach Tuesday
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Doesn't matter, because we won't be. Guaranteed.
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What amazes me is the difference in the way the team, local media and fans would have reacted if the Dolphins failed to score on that 4th and goal. The Bills would've won, and we'd have been subjected to all kinds of "we came up big when it mattered", "this team has no quit", "we beat a tough team on the road", "WE'RE STILL IN THIS THING" nonsense. The fact is, there is NO difference between the Dolphins winning on the last play and the Bills stopping them on that last play - the collapse already had occurred, and NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED in either instance.
Thank God the Dolphins converted, and we lost. Now the focus is properly where it belongs - I'll say it again - on
REBUILDING.
Teams build, they compete, they re-build.
The Tennessee Titans were 3 feet away from a Superbowl trophy a few years back, now they have rebuilt, and rebuilt again.
Success is elusive. Sometimes, for whatever reason, bitter losses precipitate change faster - even though change was needed from the outset with this team, and the same changes would have been necessary had we won 23-17.
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ANYONE WITH COMMON SENSE DISAGREES. There is no room for debate on that either- I think Evans and Lossman were TD draft picks- TD built the team that took the lead, a fact which you CONVENIENTLY dismiss, but I wont allow you to.
I'm so sick and tired of people who wan tchange for the sake of change- thos epeople should be ignored, and the Bills WILL do.
Donahoe is here to stay, and there ain't a doggone thing you can do about it- and that the way it is.
You couldn't be more wrong. Ralph is now seething in embarassment - if there is one thing he hates, it is being embarassed. That's it - this game was the last straw, Donahoe is a GONER. Take it to the house. Bet the farm. Put it all on red - it's OVER.
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(did we lose yet?)
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Who is playing LG, Bennie or Duke?
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PLEASE wallers - and I will say this once - haven't missed a game in years, but I'm stuck at work today, listening over the radio - PLEASE be descriptive, tell me (and other unlucky fuggers at work) what is going on - Murph and AVP aren't very descriptive.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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It's amazing that JUSTIN BANNAN learned to play guard faster and better than Iron Mike...
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This thread is a real cesspool.
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Has any injury report ever been so appropriate?
(yes, maybe this one: Rob Johnson (groin), doubful.)
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Is anyone actually disagreeing in this thread, or is this all just frustrated bluster?
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Ironically, I believe the only reason the Bengals signed Thorton was because we out-bid them for Sam Adams...
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Funny, I didn't really take it that way.
I took it as, he understands we don't have the guys we need right now to win, and we might reasonably expect he intends for the team to do something about it.
I understand, nobody wants to hear the owner say we're happy with losing, but he has to be happy that Losman is getting better.
You think Wellington Mara was happy about his team's performance last year? I'd wager not. However, I'm sure that before he passed he was happy seeing that his team was being led in the right direction, Manning having had a year of experience under his belt.
I'm sure TD will be evaluated by Ralph after this season just like anybody. Ralph didn't indicate in that article that he was happy or angry with TD's performance, and hinting that we don't have the personnel ("material") might be a bit of a shot or ultimatum for TD. I hope it is.
Agreed. I actually think Ralph's silence re: TD speaks volumes. I remember thinking there was no way that Ralph was gonna fire Wade Phillips, but he surprised me with his awareness and willingness to swing the axe. And, I think you're right that the comment about "materials" is a jab at Donahoe. In fact, let me be the first to predict it:
DONAHOE WILL BE FIRED.
I'm really starting to believe it. In the past, Ralph has stood up and supported his president - not anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if Ralph has been talking inquiring around the league about possible replacements. I think it will all happen rather quickly after the season is over - TD will be fired or resign, and Modrak and Rick Spielman will be two of the finalists.
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Also, a good number of his incompletions the last two games have been dropped balls and smart throw-aways.
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And for the original post, this year in isolation would be fine as a rebuilding year (but it would be nice to see young players get more time if that's the case. Lets see Geisinger and Preston, for example). But the fact that it comes after five other rebuilding years - that's the source of frustration.
I understand the SOURCE of frustration, believe me, I'm as frustrated as anyone. However, if you fail to see the importance of the arrival and development of a franchise QB, you're just determined to be miserable.
FACTS:
Donahoe blew it on Gregg Williams. That cost us 3 years.
Donahoe failed adequately to prepare for and compensate for Reuben Brown's decline and departure; that compounded Bledsoe's weaknesses and struggles. That cost us last year.
But, Donahoe did NOT, I don't think, cost us this season - yes the o-line is horrid and the defense needs re-tooling. BUT my point is, I never bought into the formula - even with a killer defense and a solid o-line, we weren't gonna win the Superbowl this year. Not with an impossible schedule and a young QB - it wasn't gonna happen. (People need to finally realize that last year's Pittsburgh team was a fluke.) Ever since Troy Vincent broke JP's leg in practice (the closest Troy's come to making a tackle in the last two years), this organization has been focused on 2006 and beyond - nomatter what they've said to the contrary (which they've said to sell tickets, obviously). And, contrary to what many folks have said here, we're actually gonna be in decent cap shape this offseason, especially after we cut Iron Mike, Stubbed-Toe Milloy, QB-killer Vincent, Parker Posey, Tapped Keg Adams, and Bush League Teague.
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Then you haven't been watching the news...
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Here is what I'm pretty sure happened, it's simple:
Adams freelances, takes plays off, and gets into fights with the coaches.
A few weeks ago he was benched because of the above.
All of a sudden, he claimed to have developed nagging injuries, which he used as an excuse so he wouldn't have to practice.
Then, he demanded to play this week (and perhaps last week). Mularkey said, "How do I know you are well enough to play? You have claimed to be injured, and you refuse to pratice. I can't activate you if I don't know that you're healthy, and I don't know if you're healthy if I haven't been able to watch you pratice all week. We have a better chance of winning with healthy players."
Adams said, "Fine, @#$%$#^, I'll be at home." He then told his agent to blame his poor attitude and absence from the lineup (which stand to cost him a lot of $$ this offseason) on Mularkey.
Fug you Sam.
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Interesting thought.
I think the starting point for the Bills should be finding a SS with two arms, who isn't named "Wire."
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Have to get this off my chest. Although I fully understand (and often contribute to) the negativity around here, many of you are just being ridiculous. I was at the game yesterday, and I have to say, I was not disappointed, nor should you be.
WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK.
Can that be undersold? Apparently, it can.
I was so impressed from what I saw from JP yesterday that I am willing to put up with everything else that is wrong with this team for the rest of this year. This guy is gonna be a player.
For one thing, the kid has a serious arm. He threw the 15-yard out with incredible velocity, making Delhomme's 15-yard out look like Flutie's.
He was also incredibly, INCREDIBLY accurate for most of the day. The Kid was throwing strikes to guys all over the field, on curls, and most importantly, in stride on the run.
What else? TOUCH. Did anyone else notice the feather-pass to Reed over the middle in the first half yesterday? May not seem like a lot, but let me tell you, you almost never see that throw from a young QB. It takes a lot of maturation and study to know that you have to put a light touch on that pass - my jaw dropped when I saw it.
Also, JP's decision-making was superb, for the most part. Obviously not on the last throw, and also on the throw to a well-covered Evans in the endzone when Reed was wide open at the first-down marker. Other than those two throws, he made all the right reads, and he made them against a great defense, under constant pressure.
In short, I can't believe how much The Kid has improved, and now I'm confident he's gonna be a serious player. HE'S ALREADY BETTER THAN KYLE BOLLER. He's no bust - at worst, he'll be an Aaron Brooks, because we don't yet know if he's a winner. But, you can't overstate the importance of JP's overall development.
Now, onto this Board:
If OBD had told us, before this season, that this was gonna be a rebuilding year, which would be measured by the development of our young players - especially and specifically JP, wouldn't you have been content with yesterday's game? The Kid battled a great D and remained poised, confident, and accurate - and almost pulled out a win. Well, I have news for you:
THIS IS A REBUILDING YEAR. DEAL WITH IT.
You should swallow this pill, if you haven't already, and try to enjoy watching these young guys develop. We have a new, young, promising RT. Evans and Parrish are developing. Crowell, Greer, Baker, McGee - developing. Hell, I thought Tim Anderson had a great game yesterday - he was consistently putting pressure on Carolina's running game, way more disruptive than I've seen him in the past, against a good o-line. The problems we have on both offense and defense are with old geezers who won't even be here in a year or two (Teague, Milloy, Adams, Vincent). The fact is, this team has a young nucleus, and it's learning how to play. They're not winning, but many of them, individually, are improving - this is obvious.
If you bought into the OBD spin-machine and thought we were going to the playoffs this year - with this schedule, a young QB, and this o-line, you were kidding yourselves. It ain't happening, never was. But, if you accept that this is a rebuilding year, that WE HAVE A FRANCHISE QB, that our o-line can only improve next year, that we play the NFC NORTH next year, that the Jets need a QB, RB, o-line AND secondary, that the Dolphins need a new QB, that the Pats are in decline - you might just relax a bit and enjoy FOOTBALL.
Life is short.
Go Bills.
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I would fire myself for the horrible job I'd done.
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Has this team beaten a good-to-great team in the last 6 years?
NOPE. (And don't talk to me about that opening day fluke against the Pats.)
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That's the difference between Belicheck and Mularkey - Belicheck puts the fear of God into his players - he makes sure that they respect the other team, that they have something to prove to the other team.
Mularkey doesn't instill that same aura of competitiveness and respect - nor does he deserve any.
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McKinnie sucked last night, and every time I've watched him play. The only reason he's still on the field is because the Vikings have even less depth than we do.
Marcus Johnson also sucked - I remember lots of folks around here saying we should draft him, too.
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We outscored the Dolphins and Jets...
Missing The Point....Today Was a Good Thing
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Disagree.
New o-line, McGahee in a contract year, JP already NFL-ready, and we play the NFC North. THIS year was the rebuilding year.