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Why does it have to be "over Ngata?" If the Bills had not drafted Whitner and drafted Ngata like "good boys" he would not have been available. The overlying point is that it's not a stretch to think that Whitner would not be available had they traded down to the 16-18 range. They had reasonable reason to believe that....
Well that's true too. We know with virtual certainty that the Dolphins were gonna take him at 16 (they brought in him for an "unprecedented" second visit, and took the next-best safety at 16), and so there's also a good chance the Dolphins would've traded up a few spots (at least past the Ravens if they could) to grab him.
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Get a grip, people. Who cares what Mortenson thinks about this? It bespeaks a lack of self-confidence that we need to have outside observers validate our opinions, and we get our panties in a knot if they disagree.
Mortenson doesn't hate the Bills. He probably doesn't care one way or another about them. He just expressed an opinion.
I generally agree that it's not a big deal, and I doubt Mort has it in for the Bills or any other team, but I for one am tired of bad, lazy journalism from the MSM (mainstream media), and Mort has become a good example of that.
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I straight up do not believe Billick said it. I don't know of any coach or GM that would publicly state that he did not get his first choice. Plus, I believe Ngata was their first choice.
Here's a link to a Baltimore Sun columnist blog suggesting that Ozzie Newsome and the Ravens were glad that Oakland and Buffalo took safeties because that meant they would have a good shot at Ngata.
http://blogs.baltimoresun.com/sports_custo...meanwhile_.html
I don't know what else to tell you, just reporting what I heard. If you want to pay to listen to the clip to tell us all once and for all what he said, fantastic. I have no reason to post lies about this crap.
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http://radio.sportingnews.com/shows/tony_bruno/archive.html
If you're a Sporting News Radio subscriber you can listen. I heard this second-hand, as I've said, but I have no reason to doubt it. Whitner himself confirmed it, but nomatter.
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Billick said it Monday morning on the Tony Bruno radio show. I have no link to the show, but he said it.
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I would say that McNair is more like one of the most over rated QB's. There is no way that the year that he was "co-MVP" he tied Peyton Manning in any way shape or form. I think it is just the NFL trying to make atleast one all star on every team so that they have someone to market in every town.
McNair is a joke, he was on the team that screwed the Bills in 1999 that prevented us from winning a superbowl, and he's injured everyday. He is the only QB i know who gets injured every year, gets praised for being such a warrior, and then some how gets elected to the Pro Bowl.
Dude have you looked at his stats? This is one of the most uninformed posts I've seen around here...
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/200...ws/7177397.html
In a Hollywood bombshell with a Sin City twist, Paris Hilton and Heisman Trophy winner Matt Leinart went public Tuesday with their romance in Las Vegas.
While publicists for the hotel heiress were confirming her split with Greek shipping heir Stavros Niarchos, Hilton flew to Las Vegas to join Leinart's post-NFL draft party at Pure nightclub at Caesars Palace.
Leinart, 22, was the Arizona Cardinals' first-round pick in Saturday's NFL draft after a brilliant career as quarterback at the University of Southern California.
A little more than a week ago, Hilton, 25, threw a round of weekend birthday parties in Las Vegas for Niarchos.
It's not her first hookup with a high-profile athlete.
In September 2004, sparks flew between her and Chicago Bears all-pro linebacker Brian Urlacher at Light nightclub at the Bellagio. She was seen leaving the club on Urlacher's back with a broken stiletto heel in hand.
That romance fizzled a short time later.
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It's not a bad idea. I've always thought that McNair was the most underrated QB in the League, a real warrior who steps up when the game is on the line, takes hits and keeps fighting, and makes plays with his feet and his arm. He'd be great for this team, he'd be a leader and would instantly be the heart and soul of the offense. Adding McNair would definitely make the Bills more competitive next year.
That being said, there is no fuggin way it's gonna happen. As others have said, Marv isn't trying to do this quickly - he's in this for the haul.
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(neither was this one!!!)
Dan: So the Ravens had strong interest in taking Whitner at 13 acording to Billick? Why dont you admit your error regarding the Bills taking him at 8...I think NFL fans might have more respect for you and think even your buddy Tom Donahoe might have more respect for you!
Chris Mortensen: (12:20 PM ET ) Strong interest does not mean they were taking him, especially with Ngata there. The Ravens never deviate from their board. Ngata was ahead of Whitner. What I told you is the truth. You can accept it or not.
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(this one wasn't me)
Mat (Scottsdale, AZ): Can you expound on the *there was confusion in the Bills draft room"...
Chris Mortensen: (12:16 PM ET ) They were set to take Bunkley and switched. They also could have traded back and still ended up with Whitner.
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Nick Swisher (East Bay): Mort, explain your statement that the Ravens were "absolutely not" gonna take Whitner at 13, when Billick admitted on Monday that they were? Also, the Dolphins wanted him at 16.
Chris Mortensen: (12:12 PM ET ) The Ravens might have taken Whitner if Ngata was no there. He was one of their considerations if Ngata was gone. Ngata was there and that's who they took.
(and 1B and RF
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http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=11604
(fyi, Mark Ellis = Coach Tuesday)
Mark Ellis (Oakland): Mort, explain why you keep saying the Bills had a horrible draft, when they got two guys they wanted in the first round who were gonna be picked by other clubs (Whitner by Baltimore, McCargo by the Giants).
Chris Mortensen: (11:51 AM ET ) First of all, Whitner was not going to be picked by Baltimore. Absolutely not. I never said they had a horrible draft. I said they had a "head scratching" draft. They did over-reach with their first round picks but I said they might end up being good football players. I know there was confusion in he Bills' draft room, too. I did think they did well their picks on the third, fourth and fifth rounds.
(also he's wrong, Billick admitted on Monday they were gonna take Whitner - what an ass.)
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Chilllllll. I'm just glad we finally have a tall WR who can leap, it's been ages.
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Donahoe started with defense too...
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Heard this second-hand, but I have no reason to doubt its accuracy. So, Marv-bashers, STFU.
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That's in part because the Bills fugged up his draft by trading up to take McCargo, who by all accounts the Giants wanted at #32 after they traded down. Again, THAT'S THE RISK OF TRADING DOWN. Don't blame Marv for playing it safe in his first stint as a GM on draft day - he got the players he wanted, Accorsi didn't.
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He will take Aiken's spot.
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I like how that chick is mouthing, "You lose!" just in case that Flyer can't read. Gotta love Buffalo girls.
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants/63081.htm
This article merely implies it, but I've heard it from a few different places (and remember thinking at the time when they traded down) that they were hoping to land McCargo at #32 to replace Clancy. Makes sense, they have a huge need at DT, and there was a clear dropoff at the position after McCargo went. Also is a good lesson about the risk of trading down - Levy and Co. are being blasted in the national media for staying at #8 to take the guy they wanted - look what happened to the Giants, who gambled and then panicked by taking Eric Flowers the Second (they partially made up for it by getting Sinorice Moss though).
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Interesting - also says Whitner visited the Dolphins twice...
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I don't know where to find those things, but if you can track down video clips/highlight reels of the Bills' draftees, please post 'em!
Mort chat tidbit
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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That is because, as the NYTimes disclosed yesterday, ESPN finds out about EVERY pick 15 seconds before it is announced. THERE IS NO CABDRIVER.