Coach Tuesday
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I gotta disagree with you there, although we're wayyyy off-topic. The draft is HUGE in the modern NFL. It's not just "8/53" of your roster. For one, you get these players cheaper than FAs, for 4-6 years. This is critical - you have the opportunity to get potentially great players at bargain prices. Second, you are able to develop the character and style of your football team from the ground up, something that every type of business organization needs to be able to do. Donahoe's mismanagement of the draft was an ENORMOUS part of the problem with this franchise during his tenure, and it's left us where we are today - with a roster full of holes and devoid of character.
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I agree, although it was certainly not his fault.
As a long time fan, I was a little disturbed watching JP hop around the sidelines. I found his act to be a bit too animated for my tastes, at least until he proves something. Imo, this did not endear him to the vets either. Again, this is mere speculation.
On the field and on the sidelines, he seemed to have little control, but I am not sure where "attitude" enters into the above. By all reports, he is a hard worker.
We can only hope that JP has matured, because he does have the tools that one would need to be a successful NFL QB, and that says a lot. Otoh, I hope that they pull the plug soon if he continues to play poorly.
I mean, they DID dump Bledsoe who is 10x better than JP, at least for now.
That is right. Forget attitude - JP's problem is that he plays like a total spaz. He won't ever be successful until he learns to calm down in the pocket.
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First off, he goes by "Joey." JO-EEEE. As Bill Simmons has said, the dude needs to start by changing his name if he's gonna turn his career around.
Second, Jo-eee is a fuggin coward. He HATES having the ball in his hand, and will do whatever he has to to get it out of there as soon as it's snapped to him.
Jo-eeee will be starting for the Dolphins for at least the first 6 games and perhaps more, and frankly I couldn't think of a less intimidating opponent.
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Sadly, Donahoe concurred with those "13 year-olds" and was ready to pick Nugent (and even tried to trade up for him). Thank God that era is over.
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Why stick up for corrupt politicians like Willis who consistently abuse the public's trust? Willis has been doing this for thirty years - first he made Bethlehem Steel leave town, now he's ruining WNY's second-best Public Entitlement.
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Kill him.
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I don't know why I ever voted for Willis for Mayor. He has really let us down, the schools haven't improved and property taxes are higher than ever.
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Willis should be tarred and feathered in public by the honorable citizens of WNY who spend their hard-earned tax dollars on underperforming bureaucrats such as himself.
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Willis should be voted out of office in the November elections. He is a spoiled incumbent pork-serving corrupt hack who is a disgrace to his office.
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Definitely file a formal request under the Freedom of Information Law (FOIL). You are a citizen and taxpayer of WNY and you are ENTITLED to this information. The Bills, the media, heck - the NFL and all of God's Earth exist soley for your benefit. There are legions of people who have been waiting for you to ask this question, and are already pouring over stats and information at your behest. LONG LIVE THE KING.
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I'll take a turn. You people that defend him are even more annoying. He has shown us sub-par speed, poor consistency, a non-chalent attitude, and no sign he has the skillset everyone raved about to be a top-flight back in the NFL. Oh, his comment about being better than LT is completely laughable. Those of you that don't see these things in him are delusional and watched and read far too many pre-NFL games and articles.
The Bills are a public entitlement and you, as a taxpayer who pays Willis' salary, are entitled to better performance out of your elected officials. I demand an immediate referendum on the playcalling and Willis' status as a "top-flight back." YOU AS A VOTER AND TAXPAYER DESERVE YOUR MONEY BACK. The Bills exist only to please and serve you, and you're getting screwed. Come to think of it, since you are a shareholder and partial owner, you should just fire him yourself.
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He is totally right.
Getting an additional 2nd rounder would have allowed the Bills more flexibility in the draft. They could have turned around and used that second rounder to move in the first and grab McCargo and still have a second round pick to nab a quality player. Trading down IS a risk, it always is... but that you are rewarded for that risk with additional picks.
I meant that he's wrong about Levy taking a lot of flack in WNY - in reality, it's writers from everywhere else who are ganging up on him.
I don't disagree that Levy probably ought to have traded down. However, again, I am willing to give him a break this time around. It was his first draft as a GM, and I think overall he did very well - possibly better than Donahoe did in any of his drafts. I can't fault him for being more conservative given that it was his first draft, and given how important it was for the Bills to get some quality players. They simply could not afford to miss on this draft. I think Levy will learn from it and be more aggressive in the future.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writ...h.number/3.html
"5. I think Marv Levy has been catching major crappola in western New York for his actions during the draft -- some justified, some not. Levy decided to stay put at No. 8 in the first round and pick Ohio State safety Donte Whitner rather than taking a lucrative offer from Denver to move down seven spots. The Broncos would have sent second- and fourth-round picks to move from No. 15 to No. 8. And Buffalo traded up into the latter part of the first round to get North Carolina State John McCargo. Finally, Levy was criticized for passing on Matt Leinart at No. 8 because of Buffalo's shaky quarterback situation.
Levy told me, "The top defensive back in the draft for us was Donte Whitner. We heard rumblings there were teams very close behind us who wanted him. Yes, we could have moved down, but it would have been a risk. Why move down when you identified the guy you want and you can sit there and get him? He's tailor-made for everything we do on defense. What if in the process of moving down you don't get the guy you want?"
Here's where I disagree. I think the only team that was a threat to take Whitner in the top half of the first round was Baltimore, and the Ravens were clear in their intentions that if Haloti Ngata of Oregon was there for their pick, No. 12, that he'd be their man. As I said last week, one personnel man told me there was a 95 percent chance Whitner would have been there at 15 had Buffalo not chosen him eighth overall.
Now, on the McCargo and Leinart issues, I think Levy's right. The Bills need to give J.P. Losman a chance to be the quarterback of this team; you cloud the issue by taking Leinart and throwing Losman to the curb.
McCargo's a very good player and clearly was the best interior defensive lineman entering the late first round. "After McCargo, there was a huge dropoff in grades to the next man,'' Levy said. "There's no way we would have gotten him had we stayed where we were in the second round.""
These are fair points - except that Levy has been taking "major crapola" everywhere BUT Western New York, as in he's been getting hammered by King's friends in the MSM.
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Well, he would've gone to the Lions, so it's hard to predict anything good coming from that...
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I don't see what the big deal is. As someone who negotiates for a living, I can attest that there is definitely value in gestures of good faith. Yes there is the chance that they'll lose Clements for nothing, but there was equally the chance that they franchise him again and have an unhappy distraction/headache. This move is really not as big of a deal as it seems.
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You HAVE to keep five LBs, it's a given, with Spikes' injury (they kept SIX even when Spikes was healthy). Spikes-Fletch-Posey-Crowell-Stamer-Ellison.
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I don't care anymore, NFL players are like celebrity actors, they do what they want and need constant coddling.
McGahee is in a contract year. He was awful last year. He'd better fuggin show up on Sundays this fall, otherwise it will cost him millions. Clements realized this, McGahee will too.
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If you think about it for a minute JSP's position is pretty fair. Just because these new guys are the new Bills in town doesn't mean they're HOFers in waiting. We can hope so, but if the reign of terror of Tommy the Terrible has taught Bills fans anything it should be to not get your hopes too high too early. For four of the past five years we psyched ourselves up to a frienzy thinking The Bills were really on the right track and every player was something special and a hidden treasure. Well reality bit us in the ass pretty hard and it finally kicked Old Whitey in the nads too when he ran out of mulligans.
Let's at least wait till they put a jersey on before we start building altars to the new gods in town. How many instant heroes were made in recent drafts at OBD only to be tossed on the trash heap through their own sub-par play? Too many for the past Master of Disaster to keep his job. Let's hold our breath at least until the two-a-days are over. This team was left in very bad shape and it all isn't going to be fixed in one draft or in one year for that matter. This team had more holes than a convention of prostitutes in Vegas. Marv can't possibly fill 'em all in one weekend.
Except your first paragraph undermines your conclusion: Lenny P's point is just what you're attacking - he says the Bills netted a weak draft class and strongly implies that Levy already is failing to measure up to Donahoe in terms of drafting. In other words, he makes a blanket judgment about this year's draft class which, you astutely point out, is premature and pointless. The problem is that Len P does this because he has an agenda - to pimp his buddy Donahoe, in exchange for information when Donahoe lands a new job. Don't overlook the importance of this little (butt) plug at the end of this same column:
"There figures to be a shakeup in the St. Louis Rams' personnel department and former Buffalo Bills president/general manager Tom Donahoe could be part of the new structure. Rams president John Shaw is a longtime admirer of Donahoe's work."
This is bad journalism, it's quid pro quo, shameless reporting all around.
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col..._len&id=2434393
• In time, the draft class collected by the Buffalo Bills last weekend might be regarded as a bounty, given the team did land some quality prospects. Each of the team's top four choices -- strong safety Donte Whitner, defensive tackle John McCargo, cornerback Ashton Youboty and free safety Ko Simpson -- will play quickly and all could start as rookies. But it was obvious from their decision to use the No. 8 pick on Whitner, a terrific player who rose up draft boards late in the process but whom no one assessed as a top-10 candidate, that general manager Marv Levy was a bit out of his element.
Buffalo landed real bargains in snatching Youboty in the third round and Simpson in the fourth, much later than most pundits had them pegged. But the reach for Whitner and the move up late in the round to get McCargo all but offset the later steals. The Bills had opportunities to swap down from the No. 8 hole, to collect some extra choices, but chose not to pull the trigger on any offers. Now they're going to overpay contractually for Whitner and perhaps for McCargo in the first round. And this is not, for a team where owner Ralph Wilson is concerned about revenues, a bunch that has spent wisely in the offseason. The Bills have invested about $20 million in signing bonuses for free agents, one of the highest totals in the league, and really haven't added a true impact player.
The reacquisition of wide receiver Peerless Price is arguably one of the most dubious deals of the free-agency period. Take a look at the Buffalo free-agent haul -- safety Matt Bowen, wideouts Price and Andre' Davis, quarterback Craig Nall, offensive linemen Melvin Fowler and Aaron Gibson, defensive tackle Larry Tripplett -- and there isn't much to be excited about. Probably the highest-profile addition is Tripplett, who never lived up to his second-round billing during his Indianapolis tenure. This note for those critical of the past Buffalo football operation: According to our count, 32 of the 42 players selected by former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe are still in the league.
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I don't disagree with you. There is a VERY GOOD chance the Bills could've been more aggressive and could have come away with a few more players who could seriously help this team.
That being said, it's Levy's first draft, and it was a critical draft for the Bills - it could be argued that Levy couldn't afford to gamble and lose in the 2006 draft. I do NOT give him a free pass, he deserves some criticism for playing it too conservative. I expect that he'll learn from this and do better next time. However, let's be honest - he came away with some *potentially* great players - I think this draft has the potential to be better, as a whole, than any of Donahoe's drafts. There were certainly no "luxury" picks (a la Parrish, McGahee), even if important needs weren't addressed (the o-line). I just can't get too worked up about the fact that Levy decided not to gamble this time around. If the same thing happens next year, I'll be first in line with my torch.
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That is because, as the NYTimes disclosed yesterday, ESPN finds out about EVERY pick 15 seconds before it is announced. THERE IS NO CABDRIVER.
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Why does it have to be "over Ngata?" If the Bills had not drafted Whitner and drafted Ngata like "good boys" he would not have been available. The overlying point is that it's not a stretch to think that Whitner would not be available had they traded down to the 16-18 range. They had reasonable reason to believe that....
Well that's true too. We know with virtual certainty that the Dolphins were gonna take him at 16 (they brought in him for an "unprecedented" second visit, and took the next-best safety at 16), and so there's also a good chance the Dolphins would've traded up a few spots (at least past the Ravens if they could) to grab him.
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Get a grip, people. Who cares what Mortenson thinks about this? It bespeaks a lack of self-confidence that we need to have outside observers validate our opinions, and we get our panties in a knot if they disagree.
Mortenson doesn't hate the Bills. He probably doesn't care one way or another about them. He just expressed an opinion.
I generally agree that it's not a big deal, and I doubt Mort has it in for the Bills or any other team, but I for one am tired of bad, lazy journalism from the MSM (mainstream media), and Mort has become a good example of that.
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You obviously have not seen his 40 time or you wouldn't have started a thread like this.