Coach Tuesday
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I don't get the Franks fixation - the guy can't run. He can't run! Why overpay for someone like that?
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I just found it - it's called ieSpell - it's free, no spyware. Functions from the drop-down Tools menu on Internet Explorer.
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It is Shelton who we are thinking of dealing for! You HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! He is worse than Davis! I thouhgt it was Davis - but Shelton is more injury prone and less of a player. They are dying to ship him out. Everyone one in Arizona knows this.
Keep Henry - this value sucks. I would rather apy JEnnings the moeny to stay on the left side.
Dude - get yourself together. Take a breath, relax, go for a walk, collect your thoughts. You are what we call an "out of control poster." You're unhinged. Try again when you've calmed down a bit.
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This line says it all.
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/teams/player_bio.asp...350&hubname=ARI
That means while he isn't the best, there are only 32 starting LT's in the league, that means he is in the top 16. While he is probably comparable in skill to Jonas, until this year he was always playing. As has been said before he struggles against premier defensive ends, but then again so does everyone not named, Pace, Ogden, or Jones.
He is a better run-blocker than Jonas, and a better athlete. He is not as consistent as a pass protector, but certainly has the athletic skills to improve drastically. HE'S CHEAPER than Jonas. His attitude has been questioned - no different from many Cardinals' players who have had the unfortunate experience of being stuck in Football Hell. SEE: Jason Kendall, who had a solid year for the Jets. Same situation, hopefully the same result.
Buh-bye, Jonas - I love this move. I also love that some TSW posters thought of it before it happened.
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The real question is this: How much more can the Bills REALLY get for Henry? If the Bills are unable to get a 2nd round pick from anyone for TH, then to me this trade makes the most sense, lets get a guy who has experience in the league who can step in as a starter RIGHT away, which will benefit JP and the rest of the offense.
IMO this is better. Wouldn't you expect them to use a second rounder on a lineman anyhow? I'd rather someone who is proven and experienced (and cheap).
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Good post Fake-Fat. I'd add these points:
1) Shelton is a good deal for an athletic tackle - more $$ left to pursue other needs or lockup Clements long-term
2) Dolphins don't get Henry this way
3) JMac lit a fire under Mike Williams' behind, odds are he can do the same for Shelton (also the Bills have more vet leaders then the Cardinals did)
4) perhaps he plays RT and Big Mike moves to the Left
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It is LAUGHABLE that Chris Hovan is ranked #8... I stopped reading right then and there.
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Why would TD cause an article to be written about how the Pats fleeced him in the Bledsoe deal? Ridiculous theory.
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A real shame about Hootie. I wonder how their fan is taking it.
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This is just a payback to DB by someone in the Bills hiearchy.
Ralph.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writ...mqb1/index.html
A very significant story for the future of Drew Bledsoe in Buffalo happened, of all times, during the coin flip before the season's last game against Pittsburgh.
Big game for Buffalo. Very big. A win over Pittsburgh, which would be resting some of its stalwarts, and the Bills were still in the playoff hunt. Winds were whipping up pretty strong that day -- 17 mph. Before he walked out to midfield for the flip, Bledsoe was advised by coaches to choose to defend the east goal if Pittsburgh won the toss and elected to receive. That way, the Steelers wouldn't be wind-aided when they took the ball. Pittsburgh won the toss. Pittsburgh elected to receive. Bledsoe said Buffalo would defend the west goal.
West? We told him east! The Bills sideline was stunned. What is God's name was Bledsoe doing? Bledsoe explained that when he got to midfield, it seemed to him the wind was whipping around differently than the way the coaches thought, and so he picked the opposite goal to defend. There was some anger toward Bledsoe on the sideline, and maybe it was just coincidental, but the Steelers scored 23 of their 29 points going from west to east that day -- and Bledsoe's decision backfired.
Sometimes, coaches don't want players to think. They want players to do what they're told. Bledsoe defied the Buffalo staff that day, a sort of subtle defiance that began to irritate the Bills coaches the same way it had irritated Bill Belichick's staff four years earlier. That simple act didn't get Bledsoe unemployed. Three very big Bills losses this year (at New England, at Baltimore, and that Pittsburgh game), in which he threw zero touchdowns and eight interceptions, helped Mike Mularkey decide he'd be as well off playing J.P. Losman, a kid he knew had some mobility and, more important, would follow instructions.
Courageous move by Mularkey? I guess so. But Bledsoe has been average for a long time now. He wasn't worth a first-round pick when the Bills traded for him three years ago. He last led a team to the playoffs seven years ago. In his last five full seasons played, his teams have finished last, last, last, third and third in the AFC East. And now, in the wake of the Bills' whacking of the quarterback they were sure would lead them to the promised land, it is official: The single smartest personnel decision in the five-year Belichick/Pioli Era of New England Patriots history was trading Drew Bledsoe on draft day three years ago.
It seems almost cruel to say, because Bledsoe was a popular player during some heady football times in Boston -- on his way to being a Havlicek-, Orr- or Yastrzemski-type in Hub sports lore. But for several reasons, getting rid of him for Tom Brady three months after New England's first Super Bowl win propelled the Patriots to a run of greatness -- the Pats are 32-2 over their last 34 games, including two Super Bowl wins -- that is still alive today.
In fact, the best decision owner Bob Kraft may ever made in his glittery ownership history with the Patriots is one he almost certainly didn't want to make. Thirteen months after signing Bledsoe to what turned out to be an absolutely foolish contract (10 years, $103 million), Kraft allowed Belichick to trade him to Buffalo.
We could debate all day whether the Patriots would have won two Super Bowls since that day had Belichick decided to play Bledsoe over Brady in 2002 and beyond. But I'd argue till I'm blue that keeping Bledsoe and Brady, or picking Bledsoe and trading Brady, would have held the franchise down. I'll give you three reasons why New England unequivocally would not have had near the success it's had unless they foisted Bledsoe on the Bills:
1. Bledsoe was a privileged character. Brady is an employee. I'm exaggerating, but let's face it, when you make a guy the highest-paid player in history, and you build so much of your promotion around a great player rather than a great team, it's hard to have a team of 53 Musketeers. You know, one for all and all for one. There's going to be some grumbling that one guy is above the team, and there's going to be the salary-cap reality that one guy is simply making too much money. In allowing Bledsoe to be dealt, Kraft was implicitly handing the reins of his team to Belichick. Such delegation had to be hard for Kraft, who really liked the likeable Bledsoe. But he had to do it. Brady is a cog in the wheel. He's remained that way even after his enormous success. Some players around the league would laugh at Brady for not making a big stink that he's nowhere near the highest-paid quarterback in football. He's due to make a salary of $5.5 million in 2005, with a salary-cap number of $8.37 million. I asked him last week about his seeming reticence to tub-thump, even though no other marquee player has what he has right now -- three Super Bowl rings by age 27. "To be the highest-paid, or anything like that, is not going to make me feel any better," he said. "That's not what makes me happy. In this game, the more one player gets, the more he takes away from what others can get. Is it going to make me feel any better to make an extra million, which, after you take everything [taxes and other deductions] away, is about $500,000? That million might be more important to the team.'' Now, do not take what Brady said out of context -- he is not going to be relegated to 13th in the NFL quarterback salary standings when he does his new contract either this offseason or next. But he gets it. He gets that when Peyton Manning agrees to a contract that will call for one single player to eat up 20 percent of the Colts' cap space in 2006 ($17.8 million out of a projected $89-million NFL cap), it's probably going to hurt the Colts' ability to build a good enough defense to beat the best teams consistently. Eating up 12 or 13 percent of the cap is probably a fair figure for a great quarterback -- if you're playing to win and not just trying to collect the best players. Brady understands that.
2. The Patriots didn't always trust Bledsoe to follow the game plan. The Bills' new staff found out in 2004 what Belichick and the Patriots already knew: Bledsoe too often likes to look for the big play instead of the smarter dumpoff or throwaway. The Patriots scouted and game-planned and strategized to call plays the staff thought gave New England's offense the best chance to win. And too often they felt Bledsoe tried to make the big play when it wasn't there. The Bills wanted Bledsoe to think short, but often he wouldn't.
3. Brady has been a better player since the trade. Look at the numbers. Since the Patriots used Bledsoe to acquire Buffalo's first-round draft pick in 2003 (the Patriots, after trading up one spot in the 2003 first round, used it on defensive lineman Ty Warren), Brady, with less or equal talent around him, has been better in all ways.
Year Player QB Rating (NFL rank) Pct. TD-Int W-L
2002 Brady 85.7 (9th) .621 28-14 9-7
Bledsoe 86.0 (8th) .615 24-15 8-8
2003 Brady 85.9 (10th) .602 23-12 14-2
Bledsoe 73.0 (21st) .582 11-12 6-10
2004 Brady 92.6 (9th) .608 28-14 14-2
Bledsoe 76.6 (25th) .567 20-16 9-7
Total Brady 87.8 .610 79-40 37-11
Bledsoe 79.2 .591 55-43 23-25
"Our offense isn't good enough,'' team president Tom Donahoe said the day the Bledsoe decision was announced last week. "We're not good enough on that side of the ball. And it's not just Drew Bledsoe. We've got to get better on the line. We've got to get more consistent. We've got to get more plays from our playmakers.''
Nice try, Tom. The other playmakers weren't whacked here. Just Bledsoe. And as much as the Bills praised him for helping them out of a black hole, his three-year, 23-25 tenure has to be considered a disappointment. Who'd have ever thought he'd be cut to make way for a totally unproven and, to this point, skittish-looking second-round draft choice ... particularly when the Bills have a playoff defense and the league's best special-teams unit right now?
One final note: I applaud Mularkey for making this tough call. And it was Mularkey's call. It's stunning to release a veteran who has won in this league and choose to play a kid. As I said, it's not a courageous move, but it's a tough move to make when your team seems playoff-ready. But Mularkey has an excellent teacher, quarterbacks coach Sam Wyche, and smart coordinator, Tom Clements, working with Losman day-to-day, preparing him to step in this summer. I look at it this way: You knew what you had with Bledsoe. He wasn't taking you to the promised land. You couldn't trust him. And so you go with the kid and hope for the best.
It's what the Patriots did. Served them pretty well, didn't it?
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This makes too much sense for it NOT to happen, right? McNair would be the perfect caretaker for Parcells' offense for the next season or two, he's exactly the type of QB Parcells covets, etc. I say this happens.
Oh Drew, what ya gonna do?
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Carter makes too few big plays to justify his salary - the guy's a waste of cap space.
Rolle will be overpaid by someone (Minnesota? Jets?)
Mason will go to Atlanta - get ready, FFL players!
There may be some salvageable players from that o-line, although their play has declined over the last two seasons. Miller isn't a bad option, but my first choice would be Shelton.
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lets be carefull with FAs. Everyone laughed at the Pats for not resigning Woody, which a lot of Bills fans were screeming at TD to. Well Woody got the huge contract with a huge bonus that made him one of the highest paid Offensive linemen in the league. And what did the Lions get in return, A Player that shows up in training camp 50 lbs overweight and out of conditining, who does nothing all year but make the most overrated player team.
Ya, but he actually had a dominant year - Woody was considered by many to be one of the best guards in the League last year. But I hear what you're saying - buyer beware.
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You mean John Tucker? You mean, um, coitus?
Ross Tucker is a terrific player to have - as a backup. He won't be the starting LG - he's just not strong enough. I assume TD to go after this position heavily in free agency. Wahle of the Packers is the guy I want.
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Good plan. Now let's go out there and grab a LG. Wahle from the Packers will do just fine.
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How about one that takes into account INTs + 3rd Down completion %, "weighted" relative to the QB's level of experience? I have no doubt Drew would flunk that metric, while JP would do a bit better because of the experience weighting. I realize that the weighting essentially "games" the outcome, but I still think it's important to keep in mind that JP fairly will have some growing pains. That's to be expected. By the same token, it was unacceptable for a 10-year vet to make some of the mistakes Drew made the last two years.
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Ordinarily I couldn't imagine a GM doing something like that - until I saw Donahoe's press conference when he announced that Gregg Williams would not be retained. He pretty much said as much, and I was shocked.
That all being said, if he does that again today, I'll be super pissed off. Donahoe should own up to his decisions. These things have nothing to do with the fans. The fans realized in Year 2 that Gregg-o was a bad coach, just like we realized in Year Two that Drew wasn't gonna win us a Ring. Don't blame us for being right.
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Well, Moulds obviously doesn't mind (or else was severely deceived).
Not happy with the TH for LJ trade!
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