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He hasn't really done that in his career. And 6 years in with injury issues, I don't think it's wise for whomever signs him to expect him to do it and do it well at an NFL level and also stay healthy.

If you're bringing him back to be a Starter and paying him a bag, absolutely not. Terrible idea. If you're bringing him back as a Blocking WR who's your 5th option on a cheap deal (possibly minimum since he's being paid by Jacksonville) and isn't forced the ball to unless he's open - I don't see an issue with bringing him to Camp. Considering we paid Josh Palmer a relatively decent sized long term bag and invested pick 33 into Keon Coleman combined with our cap situation, if we brought him in the first scenario isn't really an option for him. But right now, our 5th WR is basically being handed to Elijah Moore (unless you consider Tyrell Shavers, Kaden Prather, Laviska Shenault, etc. as legitimate competition). And there's questions on his fit in the locker room and his skills and his contract is probably one that doesn't have much guaranteed money that would preclude us from moving on from him. I don't think it's crazy to think Gabe could make him expendable or at the very least really push him to earn that spot. Ultimately, it comes down to Josh for me. If Josh wants him, who are we to say "no you can't have him"? If Josh doesn't care or doesn't want him, then don't bother. But even if it's a move Josh is pulling for, I think it would also come down to Gabe. Does he want to come back for a reserve spot duty role that is guaranteed nothing and is paid little? Regardless of what posters say of him in this thread, it's likely he has a better opportunity elsewhere.

Unless you're talking about Kaden Prather or Tyrell Shavers (who were going to be cut anyways) or that a move for Davis would make them carry a 6th WR instead of the standard 5 - this comment doesn't really track. Most likely, signing Gabe Davis would mean one of Davis or Moore wouldn't make the team. Maybe Curtis Samuel would be traded. For the most part, they have a set number they roll with at each position. I don't see Gabe Davis coming in meaning we're cutting some young developmental players at another position. And the developmental guy at WR is Coleman who isn't going anywhere and the aforementioned Prather, Shavers, etc. who wouldn't make the roster anyways.

There is no larger veteran that is an upgrade from Daquan Jones available. Cut him and we're rolling with just Walker at 1T (with the occasional pass rush package of Sanders next to Oliver) and Carter. If they were going to move on from Jones this offseason, they'd have either a.) been more proactive in signing a veteran 1T to replace him early in FA and/or b.) Would have Drafted someone in the first couple Rounds. If he were to be cut before the season started, it's pretty likely he would represent the top 1T on the market. Teams don't cut starting quality 1T's coming out of camp very often.

I did say aloud "I better not hear Landon Jackson here" just because I knew they met with him a ton, fit a need, and had Bills DNA written all over him. When we did Draft him in the 3rd, I was happy we got him there. But I thought he was in play at 30 based on Mocks and that would have ruined the night for me. Sanders wasn't even a thought at 30. I don't know how i'd have reacted.

Agreed. I had thought with the way they put it out there themselves, "was this all a publicity stunt?"

Just started watching it now. I'm suprised to see an official Buffalo Bills video start off and publicize the WGR rant.

No, we just restructured him last year.

We picked up Tremaine's 5th Year Option before we let him walk. If Dalton looks like he did last season this year, that won't be happening.

It really depends on what you consider tight. As it stands, we're at 10m under with a projected 17m jump in the Salary Cap. Which puts us at 26th in the league. Yes, we can come up with more space. But we'll also need to fill at least 15 or 16 2025 roster spaces on expiring contracts from that list, plus another 3 or 4 that will be let go to make space. And in 2026 (thus far) - we only have a standard 7 Draft Picks (and the last pick or two you can't really count on). So even with extra space, we're probably looking at another year of a bunch of 1 year FA deals with some mid tier to upper mid tier guys mixed in to fill holes, leaving us with not a lot to play with. But maybe he'll surprise us with a big ticket item somewhere, depending on the strength of the Rookie class out of the gate and the growth of others in Year 2/3. I think given the amount of long term contracts we've been handing out every year and the number Josh is at going forward, gone are the days of big time, long term "Splash" FA signings or Trades like Stefon Diggs and Von Miller. I'd love to be wrong, but every year the board says "this is the year he goes all in" while year after year - his words and actions say otherwise. He's very much a 'Draft, Develop, Retain' focused GM.

Offensive Line isn't a rotation position. The starting Offensive Line stays in and plays practically 100% of snaps - unless there's injury. They're not pulling McGovern out to put SVP unless he's injured, dinged up, or needs an occasional breather.

But is he fun?

Absolutely true. Comparing him as a prospect to Mayfield is absolutely ludicrous. If he were a Mayfield like prospect, he'd not only be Drafted 1st in the CFL Draft - he'd have been Drafted in the first in the NFL Draft. I will say though, a 2nd Round Pick in the CFL Draft isn't like being Drafted in the 2nd in the NFL. There's only 9 teams in the CFL. You have to get beyond the halfway point of Round 4 in the CFL before you eclipse Pick 32.

Well first he would need to be signed to a UDFA contract. We didn't sign him, he's just coming in for a tryout during Mini-Camp. And we're not the only one's trying him out or even his first tryout. He was just in the Packers Rookie mini-camp. There's a chance they could sign him before we even have a chance to look at him. If the Packers don't sign him and we like what we see and we sign him, he'd need to beat out Shane Buechele. And we'd probably need to have cut Mitch Trubisky and be rolling with Mike White as our Backup. Or else he'll need to beat Shane Buechele *and* Mike White - as it's pretty likely that if Trubisky's here, Mike White would be the favorite to be our PS QB, unless he left for a better opportunity elsewhere. It's also likely that they'd have to have liked him enough right from Mini-Camp to outright cut Buechele, as it's unlikely they'd bring 5 QB's to camp. And after all that, he'd have to prefer to be an NFL Practice Squad QB over a potential CFL starter. As he was just Drafted with a Top 20 Pick in the CFL Draft. Long story short, it's probably unlikely (though not impossible) and a long list of "if's" for that to happen; - If the Packers don't sign him - If we sign him from Mini-Camp - If Trubisky is cut or White leaves - If he beats Buechele - If he passes on the CFL for a PS spot

Really not that weird. Especially this time of year and with FA's that just came in for a visit and left without a contract Browns just officially signed and announced Diontae Johnson today as well and that was done before Moore.

Yeah, I think Knox, Samuel, and Bass are likely to be cut. I'd add Taylor Rapp to the list too. Everyone else, I don't see as very likely.

True list in guys they'll look to retain? Because even with the guys that are on the list that likely won't be here this season, there's still many other players you didn't list that whether they're here or not in 2026 - they will be here this year and their roster spots will need to be replaced. I wouldn't call it likely. He'd have to fall off a cliff and one of Hancock or Strong would REALLY have to impress right out of the gate. I think it's a lot to ask for a Late 5th Round or High 6th Round Draft Pick to replace a 2023 2nd Team All Pro in one season.

Yes, I mentioned that in the post. Though I believe at least 16 of them will be on the 53 this year. Unfortunately, that's with a projection of a higher cap.

With the 2025 Offseason being Post-Draft and nearing the end, I figured i'd take a quick look at what we'll be dealing with next offseason. Below i've listed the players who's contracts are expiring, as well as players of interest on the last year of their deal who could be extension or cut candidates. Many of the names on the list probably won't make the roster this year. And yes, I know it's early but I always like to take a look ahead: Current Cap Space for 2026: $10,041,773 Under the Cap (after projected overall Salary Cap increase) Unrestricted Free Agents: - RB James Cook - LB Matt Milano - DE Joey Bosa - C Connor McGovern - G David Edwards - DE AJ Epenesa - DT Daquan Jones - CB Tre'Davious White - DT Larry Ogunjobi - WR Elijah Moore - QB Mitch Trubisky - CB Cam Lewis - S Damar Hamlin - S Darrick Forrest - P Jake Carmada - FB Reggie Gilliam - CB Dane Jackson - WR Laviska Shenault - QB Mike White - LB Baylon Spector - WR K.J. Hamler - RB Darrynton Evans - G Kendrick Green Restricted and Exclusive RIghts Free Agents: - G Alec Anderson - OT Ryan Van Demark - CB Ja'Marcus Ingram - WR Jalen Virgil - QB Shane Buechele - P Brad Robbins - TE Armani Rogers Players of interest on the Last Year of their Deal in 2026: - OG O'Cyrus Torrence - TE Dalton Kincaid (if 5th Year Option isn't picked up) - LB Dorian Williams - RB Ty Johnson - WR Curtis Samuel (Potential Out in 2026: 9.725 Cap, 3.45m Dead Cap) - TE Dawson Knox (Potential Out in 2026: 17m Cap, 7m Dead Cap) - S Taylor Rapp (Potential Out in 2026: 4m Cap, 667k Dead Cap)

It seems to me that the Browns wanted to keep him. You don't throw a UFA Tag on a guy that would make it so that he'd have no choice but to play for you if he were still available by a certain date if you didn't want him on the team.

I don't think Elijah Moore is going to be a Superstar. But I don't think he's being asked to be one either. He's a guy we're paying a few million dollars to be our WR5. You talk about Mack Hollins' floor being Jake Kumerow. Elijah Moore's floor is more than that. He's been pretty consistent in his yardage outputs: 2021 - 538 yards 2022 - 446 yards 2023 - 640 yards 2024 - 538 yards Is he someone i'd want starting and think is going to take us over the hump? Absolutely not. But I think for the role he's being asked to play - his 4 years in the league have shown more consistent production than a lot of the names you listed. The truth most likely lies somewhere in the middle of the take that he's one of the worst WR's in Football and the takes that he's some great untapped talent that Josh Allen is going to unlock into a Superstar. I hope he can provide some plays for us when he's called upon. But I'm not getting too high or too low on him. He's a 3.5m, WR5 for us, who's averaged 540.5 yards though 4 seasons in a larger role than he's being asked to be for us.

This is very true. Anywhere other than Western NY, you hear Blue Cheese and you think like Kraft Blue Cheese Salad Dressing. Buffalo style Blue Cheese for Wings is a completely different animal. Anyone coming in has probably never had true Blue Cheese on wings before. And i've yet to hear of someone who's tried it say "gross".

Brown signed a 6.5m guaranteed 1 year deal. So irregardless of what he's done, he's going to be there. Obviously, Rashee Rice, Xavier Worthy, and new Draft Pick Jalen Royals are all not going anywhere either. So that's 4 locked in. The other guys can be viewed as replaceable. But i'd argue most teams 5th or 6th WR's are looked at as replaceable. If they keep 5 like us, former 2nd Round Pick Skyy Moore, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Tyquan Thornton is a good collection of guys competing for the last roster spot.

It will be at least 10. We carry at least 5 at each position. At times we've carried 6 at both. Ending the season last year, we had 5 DE's (Groot, Miller, Epenesa, Smoot, and Solomon) and 6 DT's (Oliver, Jones, Johnson, Carter, Jefferson, and Phillips). It's pretty clear that everyone can easily stick for now - as we're at 5 DE's (Groot, Bosa, Epenesa, Jackson, and Solomon) and 5 DT's (Oliver, Jones, Sanders, Walker, and Carter). Worry about finding room for Hoecht and Epenesa when Week 7 comes around. You could easily have injuries in the first 6 weeks that could make that decision simple. Even though I'd much rather prefer difficult decisions to be made. Either way, it's nothing that they should be worrying about at the moment.

I think had Cooper not come on mid season and wasn't injured, we'd have been able to do more and probably would have been more talented with him. But given what we got from him, it's hard to argue that Palmer and Moore aren't an upgrade over Cooper and Hollins. We'll still have to see what each brings us though before we can declare that truth.