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I was just kind of wondering what the deal was with LaVar Arrington in Washington this past season? I know that he wasn't getting along with Gibbs and that he wasn't being used often but I don't really know why. It seems to be a forgone (sp?) conclusion that LaVar will be released by Washington. If that is the case, what do you think the odds would be of him coming to Buffalo? With Spikes' future up in the air, Fletcher being a FA next year (and not getting any younger), and Posey being a joke; we should probably get another STUD LB. Angelo Crowell played well and I think he can be a powerhouse in the very near future. But we'll need a replacement for Posey, probably Fletcher after this season, and if Spikes loses a step (for the love of god, no!); the addition of Arrington could help tremendously. Now i'll hang up and listen to all the "I've heard of 'em!" posts

I think Lee Evans was the unofficial #1 last season. He wasn't picked #13 overall to be 2nd fiddle his entire career. He is without a doubt the best WR we have on this team right now. I haven't heard anyone say that he can't be the team's #1 WR. What I have heard is that we need someone to replace Moulds, which doesn't mean that Evans isn't capable. It just means that Evans needs a partner and who knows if Roscoe Parrish is that guy.

The New York Giants select...... Devin Hester, KR/WR/CB Miami

Again, who the hell are we talking about here hammer? Ngata? Justice? Either way, i'm not down. I called you "tarzan" because you're just sitting there saying, "MUST BE O-LINE OR D-LINE" with no rhyme or reason. Ignorrant because you just seem to think there is top-10 talent at every position just sitting there.

Ah, ignorrance is truly bliss isn't it? It's so easy to say, "We need lineman! Me Tarzan, ooh ohh!". But whom? All you have to do is look at my avatar to see that i'd LOVE to have a lineman. But the bottom line is, Ferguson and Williams won't be there. So who then all knowing "HAMMER07"? Haloti Ngata? Winston Justice? Do you know what the drop-off between Ngata and Gabe Watson or Claude Wroten is? Not much. And the latter can be had in the 2nd. And how about the drop off between Winston Justice and Marcus McNeil, Jon Scott, or Max-Jean Gilles? Not much. Same applies here. And for all you Haloti Ngata fans out there, how many of you have seen him play? I'd say 30% of you at best. You're all just enamored with the fact that we can take the "top-rated DT" in the draft. But i've seen him play when he's healthy (and he's not right now) and let me tell you, he's GREATLY overrated. Geesh, all you had to do was watch Oregon's bowl game to figure that out. Don't get me wrong, he's good. Maybe better than anything we have right now. But he's not that good. The bottom line is this: there are only 2 lineman worth taking at 8. The problem being, the rest of the league knows this and D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Mario Williams will be LONG gone (as much as I want them both). So you take Vernon Davis or you take Michael Huff. You still have 3 picks left on Day 1 to load up on lineman. Hell, maybe you trade back into round 1 from round 2 or round 2 from 3. But i'd much rather have Davis and Watson then Ngata.

Everyone pretty much knows who is going in the top 6 picks. There's a couple of variables (I.E. trades and positioning) but for the most part, these guys are off the board by #7 (San Francisco could go a number of different ways): Reggie Bush Matt Leinart Vince Young D'Brickashaw Ferguson Mario Williams A.J. Hawk So given them being gone, who do we pick at #8? Well, here's my top-10 board after them: 1.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 2.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 3.) Michael Huff, DB Texas 4.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 5.) Tamba Hali, DE Penn State 6.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 7.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 8.) Winston Justice, OT USC 9.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 10.) Lendale White, RB USC Close calls: Chad Greenway, LB Iowa (Doesn't have that "Elite" LB play of Hawk); Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College (REALLY regressed in his Senior year and was useless in the Senior Bowl) Mind you, i'm basing this list on talent and not need. This is a value board. So of course we're not going to pick DeAngelo Williams. I have a feeling he will go at 7 to San Fran anyways (maybe even earlier if the Jets pass on the Brick). But this guy is AMAZING. He doesn't get near the hype that Bush got, but I think Williams is a better back. He ripped up the record book playing at tiny Memphis. He also did all that he did behind a TERRIBLE offensive line. That's saying something. So if i'm Buffalo at 8, I would take Vernon Davis if he's there over Haloti Ngata. I feel that we can get a DT (or two) in FA. But you don't get a chance at a PREMIER TE often. You have to be picking high to take a guy like him and if you're a beast TE, your team doesn't let you go like they would a DT. I know Davis hasn't played a down in the NFL, but he is just explosive! He's being compared to Antonio Gates and he's the best TE prospect in years. J.P. Losman needs a TE. Everyone knows that a TE is a QB's best friend. It's his comfort blanket and last year, he didn't have one. Buffalo hasn't had a decent TE in years. Mark Campbell just isn't cutting it anymore. We have a shot at bringing in a very valuable key to our offense. Kevin Everett might be good, but he was a 3rd round prospect before he shredded his knee. I'm not expecting much. On the other hand, Michael Huff is that rare type of difference maker in the secondary. The 2005 Jim Thorpe award winner is very versatile. You can put him at CB or S and he's just all over the field. He was the heart and soul of the National Championship defense in Texas. Ngata is the premier DT of the draft, but I think he's not the way to go. I say we keep Sam, try to get Grady Jackson or Ted Washington (after 6/1), and draft Gabe Watson in the 2nd (or Wroten in the 3rd). As for OL, we're screwed unless we trade down. There is no one worth taking at 8. Winston Justice is the next best O-Lineman after the Brick, but he's a RT with baggage coming from a team where he had ALL sorts of help. He's good, but i'm not convinced that he's the guy at 8. If we were able to trade down a few slots and pick up another 2nd, then i'd take him. After Justice, you're looking at Marcus McNeil. He has some sort of back problem that could debilitate him later in his career. But he's good enough to take the gamble on at the bottom of Round 1. Max-Jean Gilles is the top OG in the draft. He had a tremendous Senior Bowl. Grabbing him at the bottom of Round 1 would be GREAT as well. But again, after the Brick; you can't take an OL at 8. So flip out on me if you will. Say, "NO!! We need Line Help!!!". It's the truth, we do. Everyone knows it. But at 8 we need to look elsewhere. Say no to Ngata and say no to Justice. If you want them or someone like them, trade down. They're jusy not worth it from where we're standing.

I'm not worried if Ngata's gone. I plan on Ferguson and Williams being gone. With those two gone, even if Ngata's there; i'd go with Vernon Davis or Michael Huff instead. I think both of them are far better at their positions than Ngata is. We can get DT's in FA. But a prototype, Gates-like TE and the nations top DB? Not so much.

He could be a WR, but he's a great blocker. I don't see anyone moving him to WR.

Vernon Davis.

The guy is an absolute BEAST! I love the idea of us drafting him. As a matter of fact i'd go as far as saying that if Ferguson and Williams are gone, i'd pick him over Ngata (Huff over Ngata as well).

So let me get this straight..... You have us somehow either getting Moulds to give up a ton of money or giving Moulds a ton of money. Then you have us sign Brian Finneran and draft 2 WR's, all the while letting Sam Aiken; the captain of the Special Teams go and Roscoe Parrish no better than 5 on our depth chart?! I don't think so.

The San Francisco 49ers select...... Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon

Nope. I think there's a difference between taking a QB in the 2005 draft and then another in a later round of the 2006 draft as a backup. AND Drafting two RB's back to back in the same draft.

The San Francisco 49ers select...... Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama With Tim Rattay gone, the 49ers are left with Alex Smith and Ken Dorsey. Smith is the future of the 49ers, but his play last year raised some doubt. The 49ers will NOT draft a QB in the first 2 rounds, but in the 3rd they can take a QB and not feel pressured to ever start him. Brodie Croyle is just too good to pass up as a backup/insurance policy in round 3.

So if we addressed the OL in FA and then lost Eric Moulds, you'd want us to keep getting lineman?

If we were to address the O-Line heavily in FA (I.E. Backus and Bentley), how could this draft be horrible? I see where you're getting at. But if we sign O-Lineman; Haloti Ngata, Sinorcie Moss, and Dominique Byrd is a DAMN good draft.

I LOVE this draft..... But only if we sign a LOT of big time O-Lineman in FA. I absolutely love the idea of having Sinorce Moss and Dominique Byrd on this team. But that's a pipe dream after both of their Senior Bowl performances. Moss will be picked in Round 1 and Byrd in Round 2. People can laugh all they want about Moss and his size. But I don't care how tall our WR's are. If they can burn and catch the ball, they can all be 3 feet tall for all I care. Moss is the real deal. He looks amazing! I don't see Carolina complaining about having "tiny WR's" Steve Smith and Keary Colbert on the same team.

....... and that's where I lost my desire to debate with you.

Oh I agree with you..... to an extent. If Nate can be brought back, by all means we bring him back! But Nate has said that he wants to be paid like Champ Bailey. He wants to be the highest paid CB in the league. He doesn't deserve it, but he thinks he does. We'll offer him a deal for what he's worth and he'll reject it. Then we'll franchise him and he'll get pissed. It's going to get messy because he won't want to sign the franchise offer sheet of 5.98 million. Someone will overpay him and it won't be us. That's why we make a deal. I would MUCH rather have Nate Clements than a late-1st. But to think that we can just tag him and that will be that is naive.

The San Francisco 49ers select...... Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame

See prior paragraph.

Studs like Mike Williams? Or Leonard Davis? Or maybe studs like Tim Couch? Just because they're top-10 picks doesn't guarantee they're studs. Don't get me wrong, if D'Brickasahw Ferguson is there; you take him. If Mario Williams is there, you take him. Hell, if Reggie Bush, Vince Young, or Matt Leinart is there; you take him. But if it's Haloti Ngata or Marcus McNeil/Max-Jean Gilles AND Gabe Watson, you gotta make the trade.

I really think Nate Clements will be tagged and traded for a late-1st. I see no reason why that is ridiculous. If you can't get a late-1st for a top flight CB (top of the FA market) who can you get one for? I think Nate Clements is worth more than Peerless Price or an old, damaged Edgerrin James. RB's are a dime a dozen these days, but a good CB is hard to come by. I think Buffalo will tag him and that's when it's going to get messy. Nate wants more than what that tag will get him. He'll want out and there's a number of team's low in Round 1 that would want him (I.E. Jax and NYG). Interestingly enough, i've read a lot of rumors (yes, I know; they're just rumors) that say Denver is looking for a young QB. Jake Plummer is the same age as E-Moulds and his performance in the AFC championship game was upsetting to say the least. Jay Cutler would be their guy. But to do it, they'll have to jump ahead of Detroit at 9. Denver has the 22nd pick overall (from Washington) and the 29th pick overall. According to the NFL Draft Value Chart, those two picks combined share the same amount of points as the 8th overall pick! So if we're looking to trade down, I think this is the IDEAL situation. At where we are, we can hope for D'Brickashaw Ferguson at OL and Mario Williams or Haloti Ngata at DL. Anyone besides those three would be a reach at 8. But in the late-1st, you can justifiably (sp?) draft guys like: Marcus McNeil, OT Auburn Jonathan Scott, OT Texas Max-Jean Gilles, OG Georgia Gabe Watson, DT Michigan Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida State Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida State Tye Hill, CB Clemson Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA Dominique Byrd, TE USC Chad Jackson, WR Florida I'd rather have two guys in the late-1st then one guy like Haloti Ngata at 8. What do you guys think?

Well, in his radio interview with Rome (I believe?), he stated he's not coming back to New Orleans and an ideal place for him to go is Cleveland because that's his hometown. So coming from New Orleans and thinking about Cleveland; I don't think he'll have a problem coming here.

I agree. Quite frankly i'm pretty sick and tired of everybody saying he's washed up and needs to be thrown off to the side. I saw him make quite a few plays last season. There were a couple games where I thought, "Man, Troy Vincent is all over the field!". Of course he got burned a bunch. Everyone in our secondary did. That's what happens when you can't rush the passer and he has all day to pick his spots.