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People joke about him having no trade value. But he was a 3rd Round pick in 2020 who was considered a value there. Obviously he's not going to field much - but the idea that a highly drafted RB less than 3 years into his career with little to no wear and tear is impossible to be moved is overblown. These are the kind of "change in scenery" moves that happen every year in the NFL. Wouldn't shock me in the least if a team who liked him in the 2020 Draft threw a 5th or a 6th our way.

Considering CMC cost a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th with his injury history and reliability issues - I don't think a 3rd, a 5th, and Moss gets it done for Kamara. And then there's the contract, which includes a 16 million dollar cap hot next season and not a potential out until 2024. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/alvin-kamara-21809/

PTSD

Nope. I wasn't even right. It's about people not only posting ridiculous things, but fighting others from a ridiculous standpoint.

Because I like others who have posted on this very thread saying the same thing were at best argued with and at worst ridiculed for pointing out common logic.

I hope now all of you who were saying it was possible for Tre to be ready by the start of the season realize how wrong you were. Heck, I was taking crap for saying before the Chiefs game that McDermott wouldn't play him until this Sunday and even that wasn't right.

I was 19 years old and didn't put much thought into it.

Damn, a conditional 6th for Robinson would have been a move i'd have been happy to see us do.

I've said this a couple times already. But the need for a RB is not to replace Devin Singletary or condemning Devin Singletary. He's a decent back. The need for trading for a RB has to do with the fact that you need more than one decent back. James Cook COULD become that guy in time. But right now he's not acclimating to the game as quickly as I expected. And Zack Moss is not a good change of pace back or the short yardage back we use him for. He puts together a decent Training Camp and Pre-Season than disappears when the real games happen. Singletary can't be on the field every down. And if God forbid he gets injured, we're absolutely nowhere at RB.

I don't think the obsession is replacing Singletary. At least for me, the idea of adding CMC was never about not playing Singletary. It's about having more than just 1 RB we rely on. Singletary isn't going to be on the field every down. And while he's not a bad RB, he doesn't strike fear in anyone. And God forbid he get hurt, we're nowhere. James Cook needs more time to acclimate to the game than I was expecting. And Zack Moss is not good. Singletary plus another Singletary level RB or better would help immensely.

With the cost of Jerseys, I'm shocked no one would take one for $30-65. I'd obviously not be looking for a Case Keenum jersey if I were in the shop but tell me I could get one for $30 bucks? SOLD!

That's a really good offer from Beane's standpoint. McCaffrey was never going to be on this team beyond this season. Even if he agreed to rip up his deal, there's no way CMC would have agreed to a new contract that would fall in line with what we'd have been willing to pay a RB especially given his wear and tear, reliability, and the amount of key players coming up who would take priority while other contract numbers go up. Surprised to see he'd go as high as a 2nd for a one year rental. Shows he really tried.

Motor is NOT going anywhere this season. I don't care if he's in the plans next season or not. McCaffrey is only coming in as an addition to Motor. Not to take his place. Beyond the fact that McCaffrey cannot be trusted to stay healthy and as such, would leave us with Moss and Cook (who could be good eventually, but is not taking to the game as quickly as expected) - Motor is a BELOVED member of the locker room. To remove him right now en route to the Playoffs would make players unhappy. We'd be looking at CMC to add to our room and replace Moss. Taking away Motor to add McCaffrey would still leave us with only 1 trusted RB (which is where we are now anyways) and one that we could lose at a moments notice.

I don't know what he's looking for but he was insulted by LA's offer which implies to me that money is, if not the most important thing, definitely up there. And I can't see Beane paying much for the length of time he'd be here either.

Skip Bayless brings up a point that I've thought about this from the beginning - Von Miller is just trying to create a market for his friend by threatening the league that OBJ will be added to our already stacked team and keeping his name out there. I personally hope it's real and that he will be coming here. But given his talk of the money not being good enough in KC, I find it hard to believe he'd come here for what we'd be offering.

You're not giving up on a guy you spent a 2nd Round pick on and have under a cost controlled rookie contract after 6 games. That's insanity.

Between the different reports earlier this week and the report released today, it's pretty clear he already picked up the phone. The problem is not what it would cost us cap wise this season. The problem is what Carolina is asking in compensation and what it would cost us beyond this season if we wanted to keep him. Given his injury history and lack of reliability, we'd only be interested in him for this season to try and get over the hump, if he can stay healthy (and that's a BIG if). If they're looking for "significant compensation" - it doesn't make sense for us and won't get done.

If they're looking for "something significant" as in a 1st Round Pick - they aren't going to be able to deal him. No one's going to give that up for a RB with his wear and tear and the fact that they'd have to pick up a massive contract if it goes well beyond this season. I have little doubt that we were one of the teams referenced that were "rebuffed" because the offer wasn't what they're looking for. If it's anything more than Moss, a 3rd next year, and a 5th in 24 for CMC and a 6th in 24 - it's not going to get done. Beane's not dumb. And he's not going to spend more than that for a guy who is more likely than not viewed as a 1 year rental.

Save for an injury or injuries coming at the exact time he's ready to come back - probably not. He was brought in to come off the bench and maybe work his way up the depth chart when we were down Dane Jackson and Christian Benford with Tre White on PUP. But now by the time he's ready to return, we'll have Tre White, Christian Benford, Dane Jackson, Kaiir Elam, and Taron Johnson on the field. No place for him. Maybe he sticks around on the Practice Squad - but he missed his best opportunity to see the field.

Totally. Singletary being involved in a trade is a no go. Beyond the fact that he's one of the most beloved guys in the locker room and you don't want to mess with locker room chemistry right now - CMC is not going to be an every down back. And he's quite possibly the most injury prone RB (or even player) in the NFL. If we made a move for CMC with Singletary on the roster and Christian were to go down, no harm no foul. But if he were to go down and we moved Singletary as part of the deal, we'd be left with Zack Moss, James Cook, and Duke Johnson down the stretch. Woof.

That's just it. Even if we make a move for CMC - it's for this season only. A one year rental to help us get a ring. Much like LA did with OBJ and Von last season. We can't afford to keep him beyond this season even if he delivers. It's not in Beane's DNA to pay big money to a RB. Especially one with the wear and tear of CMC. And doubly so with the contracts we have coming up after this season juxtaposed with the raise in cap costs for some of our core players. So given those facts, we're not giving up anything more than a 3rd and a late rounder next year - tops. Preferably less.

A 2nd and Devin Singletary? Ha! Get the hell outta here. I'm not giving up a 2nd alone for McCaffrey. Let alone give up our best RB and a beloved locker room player. Singletary needs to be here this season if we have McCaffrey. If CMC gets hurt, and the odds of that are VERY high, we're left with Moss and Cook. And neither have been very good this season. The offer is Moss and a 4th. Or a 3rd or a 4th this year, late rounder next year. Maybe you could talk me into Moss and a 3rd, but that's the most I'm doing. Anything beyond that and they can go kick rocks.

If they want Moss and a 4th, deal. Otherwise, I'm not giving up more than that for a one year rental that we'd have to pay big time to keep beyond this season.

You can't be serious. Trading a 2nd Round pick with all the tread left on the tires after only 5 games in the league and could develop into a great RB for a guy with an absolutely INSANE injury history, almost completely worn tires, and will decline quickly? Absolute insanity.