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That's a fair point. But that doesn't mean it can't be done. It would just mean one of Kendrick Green, Dan Feeny, Jordan Phillips, Dane Jackson, Jordan Poyer, or Sam Franklin are moved off and replaced with a developmental guy. I don't think it's crazy to think they'd move on from one of their two vet Center's in Kendrick Green or Dan Feeny or one of their two vet Safeties in Jordan Poyer or Sam Franklin to bring back one of Ankou or Jefferson. Likely the 2nd IOL, as Franklin is more ST's than Safety. As the 1T spot is one injury away from being called up and whoever the last man on the totem pole is at Center is two injuries away from being called up.
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So because we have experienced players at other positions, we have to bring in a developmental player at a position of need that would be 1 injury away from being called up to the 53? I don't see the logic.
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I'd imagine Quintin Jefferson or Eli Ankou will take Logue's place on the Squad. Considering we're 1 injury away from having to call that guy up, I'd be surprised to see a player we'd have to develop and learn the scheme and playbook on top of it.
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That's how it always goes down. One major source gets the scoop, then everyone else backs them up (as you saw with Alaina and Joe B.) and cites them as having the initial scoop. Nothing odd about it. No legit source is reporting on a teams 5th Defensive Tackle erroneously. It's not exactly the scoop of the century that you run to the presses with without having the full story
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Yes, the first move of anyone hacking an NFL Insider would be to fake report an Achilles Injury to Dewayne Carter...
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I'd bet we sign Zion Logue to the 53 and Quinton Jefferson or Eli Ankou to the Practice Squad to replace him.
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Jordan Schultz is as legit of an NFL Reporter source as it gets. He's not going to report something fake. But is this a good enough source for you?
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Yeah there is. So long as he stayed in shape, he knows what he needs to do in this Defense like the back of his hand. That's why he keeps being brought back. That's why he was immediately put on the field when we signed him at the end of last season. That said, if Carter was thought of as more of a 1T this season than a 3T, it would likely be Logue over Phillips anyways.
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And will be 30 in a month with eroding skills. And legal issues. No longer does returns. Hamlin isn't going anywhere. His contract is fully guaranteed and they trust him. Cole Bishop will start. And if he gets hurt or isn't working out, they also have Jordan Hancock waiting in the wings. Who they used at Safety a lot more than I was expecting this offseason and showed good things. Hamlin is more of a depth piece with starting experience. Poyer is a break glass in case of emergency. There's even still Cam Lewis here as well. Our Safety room has more options than we did last year already. Bishop needs his shot so we can figure out if he's the guy or not. We did the same thing with Terrel Bernard, who was also a complete unknown and coming off injuries. What if we had replaced him in the lineup before he ever got his shot? We don't know if Bishop is or isn't the answer right now. But we have to find out and the only way to do that is to play him. He very well could be. But if he isn't, we already have veteran floor options with years of experience starting in this Defense and we'll evaluate Hancock's potential to possibly be the long term answer. Hamlin won't be starting. But that's not good enough? I don't understand the obsession with getting him completely off the team. If you look around the league, you can do far worse than Damar Hamlin as a 3rd or 4th Safety on the roster. Yet anytime a Safety, literally anyone released, it's "better than Hamlin, git r dun!". I could understand not wanting him to start, but that's already not happening. I don't get obsessing over replacing him as a bench guy. And if Peppers is such a no brainer and such an upgrade, why would he come here to be a Backup?
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30 year old Lawyer Milloy was better than Jabrill Peppers in his prime. Comparing him at 30 to Milloy, even with the caveat of "Lite" is laughable.
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Parsons traded to Green Bay, given $188 million contract
BillsFanForever19 replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
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I've seen a number of places say ours is the best one:
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Jalen Kimber is interesting to me. He's a guy who started his College career at Georgia. So he was obviously a highly recruited guy. Then he transferred to Florida. Then transferred again to Penn State to finish his College career. Those are three pretty big schools to all say "yes" to the guy. And with him transferring so much, he probably never really got his feet fully underneath him - constantly having to learn new Defenses and Playbooks and having to reacclimate himself so much. There must be something there for all of Georgia, Florida, and Penn State to want him. And for Beane to bring him on at the expense of a guy he spent a pick on just last year and to take him over Zy Alexander, who was also here and had a better Draft grade going into this year's Draft.
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I don't understand what's to hate about them. It's a pretty innocuous look. I like them. I can understand being underwhelmed or not really caring bc it's pretty bland. But some of you are acting like they busted out some kind of multicolored, CFL monstrosity on the eyes.
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Parsons traded to Green Bay, given $188 million contract
BillsFanForever19 replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
Was never going to happen. First, you needed to have 21m+ in Cap Space just to be able to take on his current deal for the Trade to go through in the first place. Then, we'd have to pay him a 188m contract, 47m annually - while being last in the league in Space this year. And the following years probably aren't going to be much better with Allen's contract and the litany of extensions we did this season. Then we'd have to beat the Packers offer of 2 1st Round Picks plus perennial Pro Bowl DT Kenny Clark. So it would have to be more than 2 1st's and Ed Oliver, as their picks are thought to be slightly better than ours and Clark is probably worth more than Oliver. Problem there is if we could figure out a way to beat that offer and make it work under the cap, we'd be pretty much relying on Draft Picks alone to replace players in the coming years as money wise, we'd be nowhere. But we wouldn't be picking higher than around 60 for a few years straight. If we hadn't done a couple of the extensions we did and we hadn't spent what we spent on Joey Bosa and/or Michael Hoecht, not to mention a 3rd on Landon Jackson already - I could see it. But with everything we've done in bringing in 3 new DE's, locking up Rousseau long term, and the situation we're in now, it was a pipe dream. -
This. Especially when the last award was so hotly debated. Voters probably felt the odds of a repeat are low and at the same time also felt that since Allen got the nod this year, Jackson would next year - if it were close again (and odds are it will be). I'm not the type of fan to get upset by "snub" and I think there's logic that can explain why he didn't get a vote in this. I don't think a single voter on that list is arguing that Josh Allen isn't an MVP caliber QB.
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Yeah, I was wrong there. That's the first time I can remember sitting a QB in the final game that they ended up cutting. Kinda rough. If they had even an inkling that they might keep Shane over him, he should have got some run in the game.
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Both of those were top quality starting players that we traded Day 2 Picks for. We're not talking about Amari Cooper level WR's or the kind of quality CB that Rasul Douglas (who was specifically traded for bc he was extremely adept at Zone coverage) was in 2023. We're talking about Practice Squad level players with "potential". You said those kind of players "get signed off the street mid season and learn enough of the playbook to play all the time", "like every season". Those two don't apply to that statement. They were starting on other teams the week before coming here. As for the names you mentioned, we don't know if Jordan Whitehead is willing to sign to a Practice Squad. Just bc he's floating out there now doesn't mean he's open to just anything. Tony Jefferson has played 24 games in total over the past FIVE seasons. He's started only 5 games over that time. I don't view him as an upgrade over Jordan Poyer. And he just re-signed to the Chargers Practice Squad, so there's no saying he had any interest in switching teams for the same role.
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Who does that for us? When did that happen? Bc last year, Kareem Jackson and Lewis Cine were in our system before the season started. And Cine wasn't called upon until late into the season. When was the last time we plugged and played a Practice Squad player "off the street halfway through the season"? That's not something that happens every season with this regime. Maybe with other teams, but a lot is required of our Secondary. It's a complicated scheme. Who is the Safety that's floating around right now that would agree to a Practice Squad spot that would be an upgrade over Poyer without knowing the Defense?
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The "potential" that actually matters is Cole Bishop and Jordan Hancock. If there's injuries to the Safety room or that potential isn't there this year, you want a veteran that knows the Defense that you can plug and play. Anyone but Jordan Poyer or Darrick Forrest would require learning the Defense and the Playbook while real bullets are flying. While also being the type of talent that was just put out on the street. I think you're really overreacting here. Whatever "potential" you're getting from a Practice Squad Safety here is likely the same and potentially less than we'd get from Poyer, if we have to put him in. Especially when you consider the familiarity Poyer has with what McDermott wants.
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I think the obvious answers right now are T.J. Sanders or Deone Walker. But I'll go with a Dark Horse and say Dorian Strong. With Maxwell Hairston out at least 4 games and likely more than that before they really get him going and with Tre's general shakiness when it comes to health and play - Dorian Strong could potentially be given a Christian Benford-esque unexpected opportunity. And if he seizes that opportunity, he could end up surprising everyone like Christian did. He was a mid round prospect that could have went as high as 3rd or 4th Round that fell to the top of the 6th, in large part bc of being a very good Zone CB but not doing much man to man. That fits in perfect with what we do here. And he flashed a bit in Training Camp while being given a lot more work than expected out of the gate. They only kept him and Ingram outside of Benford and Tre on the Boundary. And with Beane's presser today, there's no guarantee that White is ready Week 1. That shows a lot of faith in Strong. And in the last Preseason game, they started Dorian Strong and he was the first CB pulled. So my guess is he would start.
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Helluva story to go from a camp body guy signed in the last 2 weeks of the Camp/Pre-Season to making the Practice Squad. But he's still got a long way to go before he 'wrecks dreams and crushes hopes". He's still got to earn the right to stay there and separate himself from the pack before we see him on the field on Sunday's regularly.
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There weren't any cuts I didn't like or thought were surprising. It was pretty much as expected. What did surprise me a little bit is that not a single player from the veteran pool of QB Mike White, WR K.J. Hamler, WR Laviska Shenault, TE Zach Davidson, OT Richard Gouraige, LB Edefuan Olofoshio, or S Darrick Forrest were brought back on the Practice Squad. I thought there were multiple people from that list, if not most, would be back on the Squad. Not a single one was a bit of a shock.
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While I do think ideally they don't have to play Poyer, I do believe that unlike Hyde - Poyer has the potential to play if there's injuries. Unlike Hyde, Poyer is here in the building before Week 1. If this were just a "potentially get him a ring" thing like Hyde - I think they would have waited until later like we did with Hyde. The main reason that Hyde didn't see the field, in my opinion, was his health. He was said to have had multiple recurring stingers in 2023 after returning from his Neck injury. I think he and the NFL as a whole realized his Neck wouldn't allow him to play after that. Poyer doesn't have health issues. Also, last year, we had multiple veteran Safety's on the Practice Squad in Kareem Jackson and Lewis Cine that they could play instead of Hyde. This Practice Squad, however, only has Poyer and Sam Franklin - who is much more of a Special Teams player than he is an NFL Safety. So again, I think ideally the Safety room stays healthy and they get production from the depth chart. But if there are injuries and we need to promote a Safety, unlike Hyde - I believe they wouldn't hesitate to call up Jordan Poyer.