Kelly to Allen

At the end of the day very few if anyone trusts our defense for the playoffs regardless if they get healthy, Oliver is back etc.... After the AFC championship last year I just don't trust this defense anymore for the playoffs. I do think we can win the Superbowl, but They're going to have to play offense like they did vs Tampa and try to have 0-1 turnovers per game. I do think the defense could probably help with one playoff game, maybe a couple for ed turnovers in another....but the offense will need to go scorched Earth Still holding out hope for the 1 seed.

I personally love having 6 wrs active. I prefer the roster flexibility there

Big game Gabe & Codrington called up Inactives Samuel Hardman Kincaid Lundt Mathis Andressen Ingram Wrs Shavers ( aka next John Stallworth) 😉 Palmer Shakir ( aka next Andre Reed) /// Big game Gabe Moore Coleman - not sure if he'll play much Codrington kr/pr If Samuel can go, Coleman is inactive If Codrington is not called up, Latu would again imo. Shakir - pr Davis / Moore kr

I hope you are right. I am done trying to pretend Keon is something. And I'm more optimistic than most on this board.

Hardman is the type of player that can be frustrating but also help you win an AFC championship because of his speed. Keep throwing him deep passes!

Organizations like the jets and raiders exist. Never underestimate the stupidity of other people

I think the bills organization is telling us that he is inactive because of immaturity. I think the actual reason is that he is overwhelmed/not good and can't contribute right now...

Do you think if Coleman was anything of substance as a wr he would be inactive on a team desperate for wr talent? I understand suck is a strong word but everyone drafted relatively early can obviously make a play. "Suck" here means that the player in question was drafted to be a starter, or solid contributor, and is overall a net negative. I am at the point now where I think we can say Coleman getting snaps throughout a game is a net negative. I think if kj hamler was playing, he would be better. Trust me I hate saying this but like I said before in a previous thread everything with Keon Coleman seems extremely forced and awkward. This is just my speculation and I have zero sources, but I think things are way worse than we realize and it's not just because Keon Coleman was late for a few team meetings. I think that's what the bills organization is telling us. I don't think he's a bad person or anything, I just think he's extremely overwhelmed and the bills said just make him inactive. he's going to be traded for whatever late pick in the off-season too.

Texans season is on the line. Very tough defense. Short week... But bills offense is too versatile Bills win with a fg 23-20 The last time I can honestly remember a bills QB playing great in Houston is the 89 ot game for Kelly

Sorry I understand it's obviously hyperbole. It's probably disrespectful to Stallworth honestly. I just think there's something special with Shavers. Probably not the best way to say it lol I'm really excited about him tho. Looking back it's probably honestly a silly post by me. Overreacting to the passing game looking awesome 😎

Lmfao 🤣 4.3 speed. Ty Johnson is fast

But not only that everyone can see the obvious talent. It's not like this big mystery on why he's not producing.... because he is producing and he is talented lol None of this is happening with Coleman

As a fan that loves this team , I'm guilty as everyone else in that I've always tried to look at players with a a glass half full type of optimism or in the most positive light. It's normal to do that. But if you really step back and watch keon play, I feel like it's being forced. Like forced to a ridiculous level. It literally looks awkward I mean sometimes a player just sucks.... You can try to rationalize any reason you want. Maybe it's Allen missing him on a certain play, maybe it's the style of the offense, maybe it's just a bad day and it's inconsistent. Maybe it's any number of issues.... What we know is that it's not working. When he wasn't playing ,not only did it work, it looked awesome!!! And it looked awesome even with Allen being inconsistent & really having like his B- level game... I swear I kept saying years ago how Mike Williams and JP Losman were extremely talented, and it was always another excuse I would try to come up with. Looking back it, they just sucked bro. It wasn't anymore complicated than that. Yes every once in a blue moon you have a player that might start out very slow and then start to emerge, but usually more than not a player is pretty good right away. Everything with Keon is forcing someone to be something that just isn't there. No amount of squinting and pretending will turn Coleman into Eric Moulds. He's just not that guy

I've seen different reports of shavers running 4.3 & 4.5 I also saw he ran 10.41 in the 100 meters. The eye test tells me he's a legitimate deep threat

He's fine. Not on the injury report He's also said he felt good in the post game.

I was a former Elam Truther. After the AFC championship I'm not lol I was never an Edmunds Truther tho...

I heard a rumor he wasn't healthy earlier in the year. He was very impressive. I was very high on the pick

Coleman was basically a net negative black hole on one side, and because they don't use Kincaid as a traditional te, the offense was wayyyy more unpredictable. Add in maybe Shavers & big game Gabe are way better than we realized, it's very interesting what could happen now. Palmer is underrated as heck When Kincaid is back, I really want to see him in 11 personnel They seem most dangerous and unpredictable in the 3 wr, 1 te, 1 RB formation

Poyer has lost a step but can obviously still play. If Mike Edwards can start for the 23 chiefs and their safeties were fine, Then we're in excellent shape with Bishop, Poyer & Hancock. Hopefully Hamlin is back in late December for depth insurance

I mean he looks awesome! So idk. I think it's safe to assume at minimum he'll be a solid player. But he's playing at an extremely high level right now

This is going to be a physical football game. Bills have a higher ceiling tho. Going to be tough

This is a great point. I did post one route where he blew past McCollum for the bucs on just a basic deep pattern. It's just one play tho. But the higher end traits look like they're there 🤷

Yes, it was also a coaching mistake not telling him to just fair catch it. Pat Moran talked about this.... His speed is needed. Besides at worst he probably just misses a couple games.