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Since Allen has become a starter the only QB that won Superbowls without elite receivers is Mahomes. Even Mahomes won his first with Hill and Watkins. Pump up all the stats you want but you won’t find the one that matters. Superbowl wins. Diggs was a top 5 receiver for most of his time in Buffalo and how many fans still complained about Davis not doing enough? Allen needs 2 exceptional wideouts. I agree with you about drafting talent vs overpaying for free agent receivers. We tried that with Diggs and are now in cap problems. Not sure why you’re addressing that with me. Oh and Allen does not have the most TD in the history of the NFL. You might want to recheck that. There’s a guy that didn’t even start his rookie year that has more. He’s also standing in the Bills way of where they want to be. So let’s get Allen more weapons so he can get pass Mahomes!

MVS is still out there. 2 times Superbowl champ. He’ll probably be motivated to play against KC.

Yeah that kind of qb/coach combo is really the secret sauce for dynasties. I think most see how it worked great for KC and think why can’t Bills do that? They think Allen is equal to or might even be better than Mahomes so just get a few average guys and Allen could elevate them. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out that way. I think the strategy should be draft at least two receivers this year. It’s a talented group coming out. Get 2 bona fide studs and match them with Kincaid. We’d then have 4-5 years of their rookie contract service to make a run. Gotta hit on 2. Get to work Beane!

It was 2nd for Hardman not Toney but your point remains. I think it worked for NE during their run and it’s working now with KC because they had/have QBs that were/are relentless at being the best and could squeeze more from mediocre guys than most could. For the Bills I agree that we have to surround Allen with as much talent as possible. Diggs was a top 5 wr and it was still not enough. So we’d need two of those types of guys. It’s better to hit them in the draft than overpay in free agency so there could be resources for other areas. I don’t think it’s feasible to chase top wr free agents by overpaying.

The more teams invest chunks of their cap space to the wr position the bigger KC’s advantage becomes. Must be a nice position sitting on top and having your chasers over spend.

It’s a new group of receivers this year so hopefully what you said happens. Agreed about logistics. With people living in different parts of the country in the offseason it takes effort to meet up and train. That’s why those QBs that do that routinely shows a higher level of dedication.

So much kudos for showing up to team ota. Imagine if he organized a practice session on his own. This place would go nuts.

No one ever said he doesn’t show up for team sanctioned ota’s.

So would every Bills fans. The only people that have problems with players characters on championship teams are people from other fanbases.

I’m thinking the opposite with this revelation. While out partying in the offseason he has his playbook with him? That’s dedication to the craft! They’re keeping him now for sure.

I thought Diggs was an elite weapon for Allen. Davis was serviceable and definitely in your ‘good enough’ description. Having 1 elite receiver was obviously not enough so I’m with you regarding accumulating more elite receiving talent. I’m hoping they’d do it through the draft rather than spending big money like they did with Diggs. Betting big in free agency is what got them in this current cap bind. My hope is they hit on a couple of receivers this year along with Kincaid’s development. Then the following year we might get your vision of an offensive juggernaut that could make hay for a title. This upcoming season is pivotal for the next step forward imo.

Ah yes. The legend of Reid grows and grows. Funny how that growth coincided with Mahomes arrival. Bills coaching is definitely part of the blame. The other part would be the guys on the field.

Isn’t the point of having an elite gifted qb is having him be a force multiplier for your receivers? I think that’s what most is making the argument for here. Similar to Mahomes and KC. Their highest paid receiver was MVS at $11M. When you’re paying your qb high end $ it’s hard to do that with receivers as well without neglecting the rest of your team. I see a couple of arguments of Kelce being their elite guy. That’s true but not this last year. He was very ordinary. The difference is KC’s players step up in the crucial playoffs moments and Bills players don’t.

That’s quite the narrative that poster has built for KC. I’m starting to think their roster is full of drugs traffickers and murderers. lol These are professional athletes. They’re not saints. Some will be flawed and make mistakes. As long as there are consequences for their actions it’s all good. Specifically to KC I remember the most egregious incident from players was the Kareem Hunt video. They immediately cut him loose and I’m not sure what else that poster wants them to do. Aside from that there was a dv incident with Willie Gay. They also signed Omenihu last season who had a dv incident. Both served their suspension from the commissioner. I don’t see anything over the top criminal wise from their team. So I’m curious as well to see if there’s any truth to it or it’s a case of ‘they win too much so they must employ criminals’ kind of thing.

It will get worse with each passing non championship year. If Bills don’t win one in 3 years Allen will be Phillip Rivers in the media’s narrative.

That is awesome! Must be really nice to work on your game there. The ultimate setup to practice. I’ve always want to do it but haven’t gotten around yet.

Florio just say things to stir up controversies. I’m glad Simms called him out on it this time. Simms usually just rolls over.

I do. It’s very addictive and takes a lot of your time. The wife isn’t thrilled about the whole thing.

Since Allen doesn’t live in Buffalo during the offseason it’s hard to envision them getting together secretly at a neutral site somewhere. I think they definitely get together once they’re back in Buffalo. So maybe between OTAs and start of camp?

His production arc made sense. KC was spreading the snaps around in the first part of the season. It wasn’t until after the Patriots game that they shelved guys like Toney and Sky Moore while giving their snaps to Rice. It turned out to be a very good decision by their coaches. Making bad decisions is part of being young. Rice was fortunate no one got seriously hurt. Hopefully the young man can learn from his mistake and change his ways. If not he might not be so lucky next time.

I’m not sure I follow? But it’s ok you do you.

Obviously what we do as fans don’t affect the games yet we still pray for our teams to win. Still cross our fingers before field goals etc. So yeah maybe not continually underestimating a team that keeps beating our team when it counts might help in some cosmic karma kind of way. But ok to each his own.

Yeah it’s a tough road if Bills have to go through both. This last year was set up so perfectly. Cincy out. KC had to play at OP. It was an opportunity lost in my view.

Well you keep underestimating them every offseason and they end up killing our season. So maybe change that and a different outcome might occur. Just saying.

KC have ended our season 3 times more than Cincy has. What good is being competitive when you keep losing? They’re the 2 times defending champs not Cincy. So they’re a huge roadblock for all AFC contenders.