Joe Ferguson forever

Why do you suppose Harvard has a massive endowment? Serious question.

I didn’t I also noted links to multiple scholarly publications supporting the positions of the scientists supporting school closures within the article.

Try again https://ballotpedia.org/Arguments_in_favor_of_school_closures_during_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020-21 the JAMA article shows the very positive effect on mortality which is a concrete endpoint. Unlike the effects of missing the prom or free school lunches which are more difficult to quantify…one could argue that free school lunches shouldn’t be needed in a country as wealthy as the US. orresponding to an estimated absolute difference in mortality of 12.6 (95% CI, 11.8 to 13.6) deaths per 100 000. Extrapolating these results to the US population, the authors estimate that school closure may have been associated with 1.37 million fewer cases of COVID-19 over a 26-day period and 40 600 fewer deaths over a 16-day period during the spring of 2020. It is important to emphasize these are estimates.

Ever wondered why they do?

No one can show him anything. He’s staring at a dank, dark cellar wall.

It’s called populism for a reason. It hasn’t been a highly productive political stance historically

Glad I’m out. Too many asshat patients like you. Heal yourself. Don’t go asking experts for help.

That was for all pro and the Sweden issue. This is for you https://ballotpedia.org/Arguments_in_favor_of_school_closures_during_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020-21 nice summary of the arguments for closing, at the time. Many still hold especially re overall mortality. Many studies showed closing schools lowered it significantly. I’ll post one from JAMA shortly. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2769033

Already posted once. perhaps you'll read it this time? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-45934-2 after my workout and hot tub. to be continued....

Did we reach white men? Nope. As I said many are angry and resentful for financial reasons for which there isn't an easy answer other than lying to them. sadly, for the country, one is a growing demographic and one is shrinking. Conversely, how do you think affluent, college educated voters are reacting to attacks on Harvard, NPR/PBS? I suppose, by the numbers, it's better to appeal to the former than the latter...

honestly, it's a shitehole. Go in August and see for yourself.

it's because they're "elites" which for many maga's means anyone over the 50th percentile for educational attainment or intelligence. We have all benefitted from work done at Harvard. Much of it is pure research that is later used in applied research that directly translates to the public. Some is applied research from the start. I read recently of the billions of dollars that foreign born Harvard grads produced for the US economy through American businesses they started after graduation. These students are, in fact, among the best and brightest in the world. There lies the stark difference between ideologies: We want those people among us. MAGA's don't. https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5316104-trumps-ban-harvard-foreign-students-economy-dhs-noem/

i don't stand for any of these nor do any progressives I know. re 5, we know why. people are angry and resentful often due to financial distress. Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. It appears we've reached our standard of living peak and are on the downslope. It doesn't look to me that's going to change regardless of party.

good. so you supported your claim. Finally. I asked you to and you eventually got around to it. I supported everything I posted as well. Isolation indeed decreased mortality just as it had in other pandemics through history that we learned from. That's how it should work. JFK would have us throw out all previous documented observations aka science. Perhaps we should do a study on the educational attainment of people with his opinions on covid.

Maybe it’s just me but that comes across as antisemitic transparency? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-temporarily-allows-trump-administration-shield-doge-docu-rcna208628

No doubt there is one. you search for and prove to me that it didn't reduce overall mortality. there are something like 6000 studies on the efficacy of isolation. I'm sure you can find one with kids in a subgroup. I posted effects on overall mortality. Whether or not closing schools improved that is your job. you made the claim that the majority of doctors disagreed. Have at it genius.

The science began with the first pandemic and each subsequent one including the plague and the flu epidemic that also killed millions. We eventually developed very effective strategies against both. Masks and vaccines and isolation worked for those at least to a useful degree. Public health policy adapted and followed suit. The fact that some previously used measures didn't work as well on a novel, highly pathogenic virus is not surprising. The fact that so many people still refuse to believe that some of them worked very well isn't surprising either.

didn't watch. i know why i'm terrified of musk. He's an unelected businessman billionaire who has no accountability to the public and deep, powerful influence over the government. Doesn't help that he's an afrikaner who arrange for unprecedented special treatment for one small group whose ancestors set up apartheid. btw, no idea how your response related to my post.

they were pretty bad. awful really. and caused great damage to the progressive agenda. Nevertheless, Biden wasn't trying to become dictator. my wife tells me Harvard is offering a free online course on fascism and authoritarianism......

He also does profound prayer with evangelical nuts and then makes fun of them privately. tr8ump wasn't the prez or owner of an entire sycophant party 40 years ago...

unsurprised your cheering on Putin. Meanwhile, WW3 is starting https://www.lemonde.fr/en/germany/article/2025/05/26/germany-s-merz-says-western-allies-no-longer-impose-range-limits-on-ukrainian-weapons_6741699_146.html#

I don't see this at all. trump is unique if not only for Jan 6. He fomented an insurrection against our democracy unparalleled in our history other than by the actions of the traitors in the civil war. None of the country club, establishment R's were gauche and purposefully showy. A pine covered porch on a grand old house in Maine has been replaced by gold toilets and trophy wives. Oakhill and Augusta and the Masters have been replaced by mar a lago, doral and the Saudi based LIV tour. Most importantly, seasoned advisors and cabinet members have been replaced by totally unqualified tv news presenters and podcasters who swear loyalty. Cheney was awful but at least he was seasoned. Real R's rarely drastically cut social spending because they knew it could result in unrest and conflict that could also injure their well heeled contingency. Welfare is cheaper than quelling rioting. They never publicly hung out with white supremacists and hate group leaders. They never tried to alienate our allies, especially Europe and NATO. They never attacked academia and science head on. Yes, they wrongly believed in trickle down economics would work but trump doesn't believe it. he doesn't care. Finally, the old fashioned conservatives never engaged in the level of self dealing and corruption trump has. Most had tooo much respect for their and their families' legacies. trump doesn't care.

link? that's quite a claim. virtually the entire world locked down, not just the US. Many different cultures and physicians came to the same conclusion. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-45934-2 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2821581#google_vignette Your turn.....

Appeal to authority is not fallacious when the authorities are widely respected experts. When is appeal to authority legitimate? An appeal to authority is not always a fallacy. Citing the informed opinion of an expert is legitimate in an argument when certain criteria is met: The authority is an expert in the specific subject area under discussion. Citing your cousin who is a law student in a discussion about a legal issue is therefore fallacious. However, citing your lawyer, who is qualified to give advice, is legitimate. The statement of the authority falls within their area of expertise. If someone is an expert in one area, it does not automatically mean they are an expert in all areas. A medical doctor, for instance, is qualified to speak about diseases, but not about the stock market. There is agreement among experts about the topic under discussion. Although disputes among experts are part and parcel of the advancement of knowledge, there are certain domains where there is a significant amount of legitimate dispute. For example, for every qualified economist arguing for a certain position or theory, there is another one arguing for an entirely different position. You appeal to false authority every time you cite trump. he's only expert in deception.

i guess trump failed to mention that the golden dome doesn't work without Canada. Would be helpful if they didn''t hate us. no so easy to be isolationist... https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/23/trump-canada-golden-dome-00366410