Joe Ferguson forever

this is discussing the same study I just reviewed with the same limitations. this comment is telling Professor Sir Nick White, Director of NDM's Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit (MORU) in Bangkok and COPCOV study co-Principal Investigator, said: 'No drug excited as much controversy during the COVID-19 pandemic as hydroxychloroquine. It was both widely recommended and widely reviled as a preventive without enough scientific evidence for either position. While trials in hospitals showed subsequently that hydroxychloroquine was not effective in severely ill patients, its role in prevention remained uncertain, and the toxic atmosphere compromised the studies needed to find out whether it worked or not.' The severely ill are the important cohort. prevention was best achieved (orders of magnitude better than HCQ even with the most optimistic interpretation of this study) with the vaccines. I don't remember "doc" being a proponent and there are still magas here that disparage them.

I have other theories. I told him it was illegal to impersonate a doc and give medical advice, he was a sock puppet account of which there are likely several here or he just got tired of being embarrassed. huh? It's all there in the study. You're trained to evaluate studies, right Dr Molecular biologist?

lots to unpack here. A cursory review showed that the study looked at healthy patients, mortality was not an endpoint (it appears none of the study subjects died), and the sample size of positive covid tests in the population studied was extremely small (20 - 40) in arms of less than 5000 subject. They considered chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine equal. They don't cite studies to support this contention. Re sample size, the authors openly admit it was a significant limitation to the studies conclusions. Why they chose to exclude the most vulnerable and most likely to die, I have no idea. That would seem to me , the most important group to study. in the discussion, the authors made this statement: In summary, this large double-blind, placebo-controlled, trial showed that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine prophylaxis was safe and well tolerated, and combined with data from other similar trials provided some evidence that laboratory-confirmed symptomatic COVID-19 might be reduced. The fact that it's still not approved for prophylaxis or treatment of Covid in the US, suggests that public health officials (even in the trump run CDC and FDA) did not find this study convincing. but thanks for the citation.

And you’re a molecular biologist in the same way I’m a touring PGA pro. I saw an article recently that claimed that more than 50% of gen z internet posters fabricate or exaggerate their occupation. Why is that? I guess if you’re foundering, it’s useful to live in a fantasy world. Hydroxychloroquine: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/hydroxychloroquine-treatment-covid-19/art-20555331 I remember you being a proponent too. You were both dead wrong on this and several other medical issues.

He’s gone without a wave. He was exposed as a fraud. I’m still here. About that hcq paper …

Yes, dig it up. I don’t believe it’s approved or in significant use to treat Covid today. Your revisionist history on our scrums shows that you are not to be trusted. Perhaps “liar” is the best nickname for you. HCQ update in layman’s terms https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/hydroxychloroquine-treatment-covid-19/art-20555331

Pretty broad category. Payday loans? Reverse mortgages? Money laundering? ”doc’s” Indian Anesthesiologist identity is funny in that he was shown to be a fraud and championed quack cures for covid. I kinda miss his presence as a punching bag. I guess he had enough. No mas.

Whatever happened to “doc”? He seems to have been vanquished. If there was any doc to be ridiculed, he was it. But I don’t recall you or any of the MAGAs here calling him out for his fraud. I guess y’all just accept that as normal. btw, what occupation do you claim to have?

you ain't seen nothin yet. no idea where they find these random "writers". I suspect they're all part of a secret, exclusive society. I think the secret handshake involves tapping the other members hand 3 times with the pinky while grasped.

to be fair, it matters more to one side than the other.

kindly provided by coarse, crude trump. He should probably look at his profile in the mirror from tine to time. Svelte, he is not. Maybe he was referring to the character in Golding's "Lord of the Flies" but I don't believe he reads. Perhaps they forced him to in military school. Who won the epstein political battle? R's or D's?

argue the point, rotgut.

sure piggy. the R's are winning big on epstein. the latest polls conclusively prove it

ok Rotgut.

Same wretched 37-38%, well represented on PPP https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ar-AA1QGwI6

"Things happen" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/khashoggi-death-account-not-credible-lawmakers-across-aisle-say

It should be investigated and it will be. We've waited for years for the Epstein files to be released and will likely wait longer due to the dept of justice running interference. It's reasonable to wait a little longer to judge Plaskett's role and the legal implications. If she's guilty of something, throw her to the wolves just like all the rapists involved with Epstein.

And that's better than nothing. I'm sure the girls who were raped and trafficked agree.

Watching Garret Graves (previous R congressman) defending trump's defense of the Saudi crown prince. He basically invokes OPEC and Middle east geopolitics. He's not denying murder. i.e. the ends justify the means. Also, why do Louisiana R's all sound like they grew up in the northeast?

musta missed the halo...impaired perception or just not very bright?

When actual adult debate fails, use cartoons....It's who you are, piggy😇

piggy, no one is talking about disobeying lawful orders. They encouraged disobeying unlawful orders. The video is of a 79 yo citizen car wash owner. Not the events you cite. try again.

you tell me. did he threaten the ice/military agents?

in English please. cuz she wanted to die?