Joe Ferguson forever

look at the army protocol for domestic riots. yes, fine with me and it would have affected me. So not the next income level up. For many D's (the new real R's). but 2.5 mil is a bridge too far for R's.

This isn't the world. It's domestic. The rules are different per my link above very conservative on use of force especially for nonviolent protesters. No. A 1 million dollar income threshold was proposed for higher taxes and rejected by the R's. I'll look it up but that income level must be the 2% and possibly the 1%. https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ How many people made $1,000,000 or more in 2024? Somewhere around 462,544 people made a seven figure income in 2024. That's less than .3% of the workforce. $430000 is the 99th percentile The proposal was actually only for those making 2.5 mil or more. And they still axed it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-considers-tax-hike-americans-making-2-5-million-more-per-year

Looks like the national guard skipped several steps if they used any force at all. https://publicintelligence.net/usarmy-civil-disturbances/

never served. so what's the line where it's no longer support. shooting rubber bullets. shooting live ammo? Fergy played while we had season tix. he was no archie manning but he played for miserable teams too. Several years he was one of their best players. https://today.yougov.com/topics/travel/survey-results/daily/2025/06/10/50147/3 Do you approve or disapprove of deploying National Guard soldiers to the Los Angeles area to respond to protests over the federal government's immigration enforcement? All adults Region Gender Politics Age Race Approve 38% Disapprove 45% Not sure 17%

Define support. where's the line

Does protect include use on chemical irritants. Where's the threshold for "support"?

Around 6:30 p.m. The Los Angeles Police Department said it responded to a request for assistance from federal authorities at around 6:30 p.m. and arrived at the scene within 55 minutes. The department said its response time was impacted by "significant traffic congestion, the presence of demonstrators, and, notably, by the fact that federal agents had deployed irritants into the crowd prior to LAPD's arrival." Later, the Department of Homeland Security claimed the LAPD took two hours to respond. A federal law enforcement official told CBS News that ICE requested assistance from LAPD multiple times over the course of Friday night and that it took more than two hours to honor that request. However, a senior city official in L.A. disputed that timeline, telling CBS News that it took LAPD 55 minutes to respond, not two hours. The LAPD posted on X at 7 p.m. that it had declared an "unlawful assembly," ordering protesters to leave the area and giving them five minutes to comply. By 8 p.m., video shows LAPD officers had blocked the crowd's path to the detention center. Police said some protesters had thrown large pieces of concrete. CBS News Los Angeles reporters witnessed officers firing non-lethal foam projectiles and bean bag rounds in response.

Do you not agree that everyone needs morality regardless of whether they're religious. It's certainly laid out in Christianity. It's very clear to me. And it's peaceful and benign. The trouble starts when people impose their beliefs on others causing loss of freedom for those on the other side.

Newsome and Bass want control of the response to the riots in their state and city. That's not hardball. It's states rights.

Obama removed more illegals without any of this happening

Congressmen Jim McGovern nails it https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/save-me-your-crocodile-tears-rep-jim-mcgovern-calls-out-the-gop-hypocrisy-in-trump-sending-national-guard-to-la/vi-AA1GqB0u?cvid=5c1172c4710f4e28a7b941bf0013544c&ei=23

Beshear is correct. Many areas in his state have over 50% medicaid pts. That's the case in many counties not far from me. Hospitals WILL close and people will go without any care. And most of them voted for trump. "I love the uneducated". Most members of congress and senators from these states are MAGA. Once hospitals close and poor people end up going to an ER fifty miles away from their home for band aid care with no follow up,, that might change. But never underestimate stupidity.

As predicted in 2010. See above link. It's happening right now as predicted. In his 2010 analysis published by Nature, Turchin identified several warning signs in the domestic electorate: stagnating wages, a growing wealth gap, a surplus of educated elites without corresponding elite jobs, and an accelerating fiscal deficit. All of these phenomena, he argued, had reached a turning point in the 1970s. "These seemingly disparate social indicators are actually related to each other dynamically," he wrote at the time. "Nearly every one of those indicators has intensified," Turchin said in an interview with Newsweek, citing real wage stagnation, the effects of artificial intelligence on the professional class and increasingly unmanageable public finances. Turchin's prediction was based on a framework known as Structural-Demographic Theory (SDT), which models how historical forces—economic inequality, elite competition and state capacity—interact to drive cycles of political instability. These cycles have recurred across empires and republics, from ancient Rome to the Ottoman Empire. "Structural-Demographic Theory enables us to analyze historical dynamics and apply that understanding to current trajectories," Turchin said. "It's not prophecy. It's modeling feedback loops that repeat with alarming regularity." He argues that violence in the U.S. tends to repeat about every 50 years— pointing to spasms of unrest around 1870, 1920, 1970 and 2020. He links these periods to how generations tend to forget what came before. "After two generations, memories of upheaval fade, elites begin to reorganize systems in their favor, and the stress returns," he said. One of the clearest historical parallels to now, he notes, is the 1970s. That decade saw radical movements emerge from university campuses and middle-class enclaves not just in the U.S., but across the West. The far-left Weather Underground movement, which started as a campus organization at the University of Michigan, bombed government buildings and banks; the Red Army Faction in West Germany and Italy's Red Brigades carried out kidnappings and assassinations. These weren't movements of the dispossessed, but of the downwardly mobile—overeducated and politically alienated. "There's a real risk of that dynamic resurfacing," Turchin said. edit: went to the no kings site. nothing about communism. They're helping to organize a nationwide rally that will draw thousands against dictatorship. That's democracy, not communism. Not exactly the weather underground but that's probably coming soon.

Best explanation I’ve seen. Rome is burning https://www.newsweek.com/peter-turchin-political-violence-donald-trump-barack-obama-riots-2083007

If I was there at th outset, I'd attend. I'm sure there are like mannered Angelinos that were there. You might think IR'm an ####### but I'm not lawless. Never been arrested nor do I think I ever will. I'll bet there are some on this board who can't say that. Once the military came I would have left immediately. We all should know what happened to the Tianemen Square protester who stood in front of a tank.

"We'll kill you like I killed my bird dog puppy!" https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/ice-barbie-kristi-noem-issues-chilling-warning-to-l-a-protesters/ar-AA1Gpp5y

The woods are full of interesting things. A bear wrecked our birdfeeder. And knocked over the garbage. Wild turkeys are a mess. There was a huge snapping turtle in the pond. And then a water snake. The fish are smart enough to hide. And I’ve got bear spray, an air horn and shotgun. Be prepared as we were taught in scouts.

never thought for minute that he wouldn't. And y'all wanted this.

It;s gonna be alright

except for some, it's not about religion. My religious beliefs align with the rights. It's about live and let live on social issues. Who am I to judge as Pope Francis said. But authoritarianism I can't abide.

trump

In your head deep...!'m somewhat incapacitated at present. Bingo's OK ,I guess. But when I play games, I prefer bridge. And pi$$ing off the lib "owners". And I've been a Bills fan since I saw them practice at Niagara University. This is very cool: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/throwback-thursday-bills-training-camp-history-10537441

And your good with that...I'll mark you down as in favor of authoritarianism, Asshat.

Face it. The train wreck that was the Biden administration and is the Demicratic party is what got Trump elected Agree up to here. The biden admin did not satisfy the majority. And hiding his apparent Parkinson's and probable dementia was disgraceful and badly damaged our party.

have seen them. They're sharp and should last a long time. you might even be able to pass it on. It's cool to have a love one's watch. My jazz master has a skeleton on the back. More subtle I think. no and the didn't Jan 6. I was comparing lies about riots or did you miss that?