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Whether in FA or the Draft, we really need competition for Spencer Brown. That was one of the worst games for a RT i've seen since... well... the last time Spencer Brown looked that bad.

Now I think it is fair that we win the game with an extra quarter. The Bengals defense was really slogging at the end. I just dont think the fumble would have changed much, based on how our defense reacted when we needed that final stop. I think if we are asking a good "what if" question, it would be, what if we adjusted to playing man-press very early. Preferably before the game started, since we have played Burrow 1.25 times in the last 10 months. It was so incredibly obvious that he would pick apart the zone, and that didn't stop until we moved to mostly man, but by that point we were already in a deep hole.

I've heard people say this, but where is the evidence? Say we score a TD on the Kincaid fumble drive. Then we score a TD the next drive (like we did). Let's say we even went for and got the 2 point conversion, like we did. It's now 25-24 Bills. Bengals get the ball and literally drove 60 yards in a minute and a half. They are a few yards away from field goal range for a game winning field goal when they kneeled the game out. How do we win this?

Sorry friend, but this thread was a bad idea. Just from a "jinx" perspective.

Some of you really need to watch some other NFL games. Allen is not perfect, but he is better than 30 of the other QB's starting right now.

Judging by the lawsuit footnote that mentioned Daboll wanted out of Buffalo, even if it was for a lateral move, and that cold-as-ice handshake after the Giants game, I'd be shocked if we ever saw Daboll in Buffalo again.

Total points = / = Consistency. Our 2021 offense scored 27 or more points 78% of the games that season (discluding the hurricane game for obvious reasons). That is consistent. You know, entering games, that there is close to an 80% chance that the Bills offense will score 27 or more points. That puts a lot of pressure on opposing defenses and how they play the game. We have reached that mark 33% of the time this season and 58% of the time last season.

I never understood why. Here are the Bills point totals from 2021, Dabolls last year in Buffalo: v Pit - 16 @ Mia - 35 vs Was - 43 vs Hou - 40 @ KC - 38 @ Ten - 31 v Mia - 26 @ Jax - 6 @ NYJ - 45 v Ind - 15 @ NO - 31 @ TB - 27 v Car - 31 @ NE - 33 v Atl - 29 v NYJ - 27 v NE (Playoffs) - 47 @ KC (Playoffs) - 36 The offense scored 27 or more points 78% of the games that season (discluding the hurricane game for obvious reasons). We have reached that mark 33% of the time this season and 58% of the time last season. Outside of Daboll, what else changed between 2021 and 2022/2023? Based on what? This is not a situation like Buffalo where they hired the coach (McDedmott) first and then hired the GM after, thus creating a bit of a power balance question. The Giants hired a GM (Shoen) and then the GM hired a coach (Daboll). Im sure, like any coach, Daboll gave input. But I see no evidence that he made the decision to re-sign Jones. If anything, when you watch the Giants play, it’s Daboll constantly screaming at Jones. We saw that once or twice ever with him in Buffalo.

I’m not advocating for Daboll to be coach here. I’m simply advocating for truth in discussions. 1) The Giants are an extremely talent deprived team that ANY coach would have struggle to win with. 2) The Giants have played half the season with Tyrod Taylor or Tommy Devito. And the other half of the season they had Daniel Jones, who is a slightly better Mac Jones. 3) Last season he overachieved with a bad roster. There was a mid season free-fall, similar to what the Bills have most years, but they won 3 of their last 5 games including a playoff game. I have seen little evidence of poor coaching with the Giants (the Jets game not withstanding). Much of it is simply a very poor roster. Which, Daboll not being the GM, i’m not sure that you can blame him for.

Yeah I called that. a horrible decision by Schoen at the time. But we are talking about Daboll.

Do you… think Daniel Jones is a good QB?

The Giants don’t have the horses. For goodness sake they have played 4 games with Tyrod Taylor and Tommy Devito at QB. What do you think our record would be would those two!?

That is an interesting point. We don’t have a single coordinator left on this team from just two years again when we were 13 seconds away from the AFCCG. New Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator, ST coach, WR coach, O-Line coach, QB coach… Thats a lot of turnover.

No they weren’t. Mixon finished with 2.6 ypc and the Bengals were getting little to no push in the middle.

And one of those were deep in Bengals territory! It has been over a month since we last forced an INT. We really need to create some more turnovers of our own, while reducing the turnovers we … well … turn over. It’s incredible we kept the game so close. I was also happy to see shades of the 2021 offense come out with the Allen designed run and the quick hitters in the 4th quarter. Where was that all game!?

To add to the coaching comments: - We took far too long to adjust from zone to man. Burrow is a cerebral QB and will pick a zone apart. He struggles far more in man coverage. - We eventually began playing base-man in the second half and the Bengals only scored 3 points. Burrow was 21-26 (81%) for 220 yards against zone and prior to that last pass was 9-17 (53%) for 85 yards against man. Its just frustrating to see the coaching staff take so long to adapt. I mentioned this on the very first drive:

Von makes that play last year. He is toast.

I totally would have had a player on defense go down there to save time.

My problem with Dorsey isn’t his play-calling (well, not completely) - It’s his play designs. Our spacing is so bad that we have receivers literally running into each other.

I just looked it up. We haven’t forced an INT in over a month. 35 days.

They’re playing tight man but no bump.

Uh that ball came out.

When was the last time we got a turnover? I genuinely don’t remember. Was it 2 games ago? 3?

He’s not holding the ball because he likes the way it feels in his palm. No one is getting seperation.

Spencer Brown… brutal.