UKBillFan

Only reporting from what someone posted on the Game Day thread; I missed it. Though they didn't mention the synthetic turf bit on OBD - that was someone else. Sorry, mashed what was reported together.

I think I'm right in saying that they basically claimed that medical opinion is that White is ready to play and the coaches want to start him. White doesn't feel ready, rumours being he has concerns about his knee on synthetic pitches. From what I understand, everything said by Wood and Brown is cleared by OBD, so the assumption is they are happy for them to say White needs to get out of his head and turn up for the team.

Please sling it to a Bill, please sling it to a Bill, please sling it to a Bill...

We should be 8-1 right now. I can accept the bizarre circumstances in Miami resulting in a defeat but we gifted victories to the Jets and the Vikings through simple errors. On the face of it, being a position where we're more likely to beat ourselves than the opposition is not a bad thing but we're running out of time to sort it out.

That or he needs to retire. No other team will pick a player who can only play certain games on a whim. Edit: Just seen someone else say this too.

Internal issues surrounding White, considering how Eric Wood and Chris Brown have reportedly laid into him?

Just before the Bills annouced him as inactive again as well. Turning up the heat for Thanksgiving?

Newsome was the one who caught my eye, but not to the level of no White, Edmunds or Hyde.

Don't think they're missing anyone of note there?

Are we certain it's down to Tre why he isn't out there and not the coaches being overly cautious?

To me, despite my criticism of him, Josh is the reason our offence is the statistically the best, or one of the best, in the NFL. I think Mahomes is the only other QB currently playing who'd have a chance of getting something good out of it and, even then, I think he's behind a better O Line in Kansas. Put any other QB behind that O Line with these receivers and we'd be a hot(ter) mess right now.

The last time we lost three games in a row was 2018, up to now the last season where we failed to make the play offs. We did lose three in a row in 2017 but made the post season. I'm not sure if 10-7 is going to cut it this year; 9-8 almost certainly isn't.

That's a valid point though, in none of the last three games, did the offense need to over press or feel the need to score quickly. We were ahead in each. We just needed to protect the ball and dink and dunk. In all three interceptions, for example, Josh had dink and dunk opportunities available to him but he didn't take them. If you're down by a sizeable amount then perhaps you need to press but not when leading - not to the extent we appear to press.

I appreciate what you are saying but I do think, on the offensive side, Dorsey does seem to call schemes and adapt plays which result in simple plays being available underneath. The question is why doesn't Josh see them or take them, throwing into coverage instead. Can we pinpoint that on Dorsey? When it comes to the offensive side of the game, my bigger concern from a coaching viewpoint is why teams seem to be able to adapt to our run game at the half and we struggle to make changes in return.

Josh is a wonderful irritant. He has the physical ability to be the best Quarterback ever in my mind - the arm, the running game, the strength, it's astounding what he can do at his peak. Whilst I appreciate no one can be at their ceiling constantly, the mistakes he makes on a worrying regular occurrence are simple ones. I don't mind the first interception on Sunday as far as Josh's throw goes (the play call was odd but that's possibly on Dorsey); they can happen. The interceptions against the Packers, Jets and Vikings where he threw straight at a defensive player is baffling and concerning. Peterson said it best - Josh is still great but he needs to learn to take what the defense gives him. The annoying thing is it seemed like he had learned that lesson but is now regressing.

Josh is wasting himself. The coaches cannot be blamed for the inexplicable decision making over the past three weeks. They are plays you wouldn’t expect a rookie to continually make, let alone someone with Josh’s ability.

Like on defense, I’d say the issue is more execution than play calling. I’m not sure how Dorsey is to blame for Josh throwing utterly incomprehensible interceptions in moments that matter? Obviously there are situations where we can say the calling could be better but it’s not the principle reason we lost to either the Jets or the Vikings. Individual mistakes are.

One of the previous managers of the soccer team I support refused an offer to have undersoil heating fitted, using the argument what's the point of having it if the access routes are so dangerous the game would be called off anyway. Similar argument here.

This season is getting madder by the moment. If we win the Super Bowl at this rate, it'll be a minor miracle.

I guess the only grating I have in the back of my head is will he learn? It’s basically three games in a row where he’s made the same mistakes. Hearing him talk it through is nice but words are cheap if nothing changes.

Depends who is fit on defense and which Josh shows up. 50/50 for now.

We did the same in the second half against the Packers. It’s as though they were up a ton, by consistently running the ball, and we were chasing the game. If it doesn’t stand out now it never will - we cannot trust Josh’s passing game.

In both cases we beat ourselves rather than we’re beaten. A positive in that we should be able to turn it around, but mentally we don’t look prepared, and haven’t since the second half of the Steelers game.

On the stages of sporting grief I’m currently at anger and it’s twenty to one in the morning here but I can’t shake this albeit controversial opinion… I don’t trust Josh. Physically he’s the best Quarterback in the league bar none. Mentally he’s one of the worst. He’s coming across as having no respect for the ball or the opposition. The picks that he’s throwing are, for the most part, ridiculous. He seems incapable of learning lessons offered in preceding games. He is not a rookie but, more often that not, he plays like one. He could put five hundred yards and 10 touchdowns on the Browns and I still won’t trust him. This hero play is always there, under the surface, and it appears far too often for him to be anything about a thrilling, talented player but with flaws which means he won’t match expectations. I thought he was turning himself around with the run from the Wildcard game to the first half of the Packers, which hurts the most and is probably why I’m so fed up now.