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And will be taken off it by another team. See Blackshear.

If we convert a Field Goal, without reply, it will be exactly the same score as the last competitive outing.

As someone else said, the Bills tend to have at least one shocker under McDermott per season - 54-24 at the Chargers, 47-3 at the Ravens/41-9 v the Bears, 31-13 v the Eagles, 42-16 at the Titans, 41-15 v the Colts, 27-10 v the Bengals. I suppose we did lose 21-0 at the Panthers is our last pre season game in 2022 though, from memory, not even many of the seconds played in that one. Otherwise, never had a shocker in pre-season under him up to now. Maybe it's a good omen? Getting it out of the way.

I think it's more desperation. The whole team hinges on Josh being Superman and, because he has the physical talent to match, the expectation ratchets up again and again. Even when he gets little support from elsewhere.

Can you imagine the reaction if Josh had been paid like Jackson or Watson?

Baked? Runner? Broad?

Blackshear?

Doyle has so much promise but so little luck.

Ready for them. Though I would love to see Josh behind a decent O Line. Don't think this year will be the year.

Trubisky went to be a starter. Then stunk the place out and got replaced by a rookie.

My irritation with Josh - and I'm not saying that it's the case tonight - is that physically I think he's the best QB in the game right now. He has the strength, the speed, the eye, the legs. He's the whole package. But mentality lets him down. The O Line does not help. Neither do penalties, drops or play calling. But he seems to enter 'panic mode' more than other higher calibre QBs and that's the frustration. If he can sort it out then there wouldn't be a word in the dictionary to describe him as a QB. Otherworldly. As said, wouldn't say it was an issue tonight. Especially as he no doubt was under strict instruction to stay safe.

Kyle's refusing to play - feels he has a better chance being QB2 by staying off the field. 😉

That's down to the coaching and play calling. Not at the same level here.

Driving you Crazy?

That had happened by the time the Bills met the Bengals in the play offs.

Ha. As others have said, this feels like a re-run of the Bengals game, possibly post season and regular season prior to Hamlin's collapse, as they were running rings round us then. It's pre-season. It should not have a bearing on week one. But seeing similar faults raise their ugly head isn't encouraging.

I know it's pre-season, but I'm dreading the Jets game already. Just do not look ready - and that's just the starters.

To an extent, but I think the Panthers are just a mess in general. Not sure if we can read too much into the Jets off the back of that. They were competitive last year, they will be competitive this year.

The Panthers look a mess, though.

Which one?

That's it? Thad Brown really is an overgrown manbaby, getting stroppy at that.

Ah, so the NFL script is that Diggs is to throw a tantrum late on 6th August. Good to know.

You don't think this has blown over yet, do you?

As always, Diggs helped fuel the fire with the 'cap' post.

Depends how out of control he is. Maybe he made a move on Diggs?