Bob in STL

Hangartner starts for Carolina. Not saying he is a great center but he is better than nothing, as in no backup. We kept Colin Brown on the roster for a 2nd year (was on the PS for awhile). Is he better than Hargartner? Heck no. If he was he would have stepped in. Another dumb move to save a little bit of money.

He played tackle in college. Can't find anything that says he ever played a game at center in college. I don't recall him playing any center in preseason, but Urbik did. This team did not bring adequate OL depth into the season, just like last year. It is typical for an NFL team to dress at least 8 offensive linemen - a swing tackle, a player that can play gaurd and tackle, and another player that can play guard and center.

You forgot no WRs, no pass rush, and no chance at stopping the run.

Agree. Andy deserved better today.

1. Smith 2. Florence 3. Error-hoff 4. Leino

... the very next time he sees Buddy Nix is give him a kick in the balls. Levitre's shot gun snaps were lousy all game long and that in itself made Fitz's job harder. I do not blame Andy for this though, not when he is staring down a 360lb NT. We started this season with one back-up tackle on the roster, a rookie at that. Reminds me of Cordero Howard being our top back-up last year. We have no back-up center on the roster. Really? Levitre has NEVER played center. Don't even tell me about Urbik because if he was a better choice and they did not use him instead of Levitre then that makes Gailey just as bad. Wood is hurt and we did not even add a lineman this week, not even to the practice squad. Going back to the Lee Evans trade, our front office is filled with baffoons. This is not rocket science.

I watched the whole debacle. A horror flick is fake. Unfortunately this game was not.

Right now it looks like they quit. Every single quitter is responsible. The blocked punt was an example of a player just not playing. Miami did nothing special, we just quit.

Well we look like 6-10 right now, two games better that last year which is about right for what we did on the off season. I thought we had a below average off season. We did not address OL depth at all and it is killing us. We traded Lee Evans for a couple of rolls of tape and we sure could use him now. We have seen a few players like Chandler, Urbik and Pears take a step up. Still the defense is putrid. Our DB used to be a strength and now they look horrible. We have no pass rush and our linebacker are very, very, bad. On top of that we are playing a scheme that does not fit the people we have. Were the first 5 games an aberation? Are the last 5 games the real Bills? I think we caught some breaks early and at 4-1 we were not that good. We are also not as bad as we are playing right now ... injuries are devastating a team with ZERO depth.

He is getting little help but he surely is missing somew easy passes. If he makes a few plays early today we are in the lead by more that 3-0. I am very disappointed in his recent play.

He shows no understanding of what it takes to play in the NFL. The run off tackle was wide open but he ran soft and pranced slowly to the line with his body straight up. We all know he cannot and will not block. So far he is a major waste of a draft pick. We need tougher players.

From ' fear the beard' and Amish Rifle to ' rats nest'. Fame really is fleeting.

Third and eight and throw a six yard pass. Not just a fitz thing I see.

Traitor. Just stop watching. You are not a fan if you believe what you just said.

Some good points here.

What??? They were so bad that the game was almost over after the first quarter. The defense is problem number one.

What big plays did he make? Fitz was bad again. Lots of blame in all phases of the game.

We need to try someone else at center. Urbik can't be worse.

Lots of blame on the offense. Ten dropped balls. OL beaten, Fitz missing, not tough enough.

We are getting beat up. We had three plays to get 6 inches. Spiller wussed out, fitz fumbles a snap, then a pass play.

No way do they leave all that money on the table.

Horse collar tackle

Name another' good draft' please.

Spiller makes the highlight reel. Notice that Miami is hitting to inflict pain. We are just getting the daylights kicked out of us. Very soft team right now.

Put in a new center please