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Based on what ? He was a backup that filled in with those teams. Most people assumed Hamlin would not start. He is, and one thing about McD is he a solid DB coach. I think he knows more than I do. Hamlin is not great but apparently Edwards is not as good per the Bills coach’s. Might change later in the year 🤷🏻‍♂️

The humanity! The Bills pick up a vet in the off season who is hurt in camp and doesn’t start. The team is made of multiple players who compete. Some start and some don’t. I also assumed he would potentially be a starter. But I’m guessing they know more than I do🤷🏻‍♂️.. so I hope at some point if he is needed he does a great job. Different defensives and a different year. Good for him.

Some good points here. I would lay a fair amount of blame on rushing 2 guys as AR snickered while R and E are guarding the absolute unimportant sidelines. Cine has to this point not been able to start as a S in the NFL. Super smart of the Bills to consider him as a LB in the scheme they play. We are able to assess the D and say the Hail Mary was dreadful otherwise they made plays when they had to. Certainly not a great performance and some concerns but sealed the W.

What is the niche ? To make plays? It is a shock the Bills drafted a player at LB who fits the style they like to play 1-2 rounds early? He was really good at Baylor. So the draft experts who told us Josh Rosen was the better qb? Think he should have gone in the 5th? Who cares! The point is he’s a really good player for the Bills at the 3rd round like MM was in the 5th.

And he also multiple high level starters since he began drafting. I can name them but it would include multiple players. By any measure BB is a top 5-10 GM in the NFL. He is going to miss on some. To suggest Bishop 6 games in off a pre season injury is a bust is comical.

Might be the bomb where he was out of position. He will eventually get in but he’s not processing the nfl fast as of yet. Currently Hamlin gives us the best chance to win. Bills win the Texans game if that doesn’t happen. Hamlin is a low-average nfl starter but he’s not losing games.

Why ?

Share who they are at 2.8 M ? I contest it was solid signing late in FA. Even as depth which as I said may very well pay off. He was injured and could not practice while guys in his spot were healthy and in the system.

Different teams and approaches. I need to have specifics of all the rookie starters on KC and SF. Then we can see how poorly the Bills are doing. Seems we have multiple drafted players recently contributing. And a few others not. I can list them but I think we all know who they are. KC has done well in player evaluation for sure. As well as having perhaps the best HC in NFL history outside BB and Lombardi 🤷🏻‍♂️

That’s a good value for a vet back up S who very easily can impact the team in the next 11 games.

So your point is if after 6 games the 60th player in the draft isn’t playing it’s a disaster? Gotta disagree. The Bills as noted by multiple positions play who currently gives them the best chance to win. They might be vets, FA, drafted, undrafted they don’t care. Bishop will play in the future and likely will be better than both but not right now. He’s got 4 years on a low contract and will be an asset.

Ok well I’m not a hard core evaluator like yourself. But for what it’s worth PFF had he and Rapp rated as top 5 D players against the Jets. Does he have coverage concerns? Yes, but he is doing a decent job in the role.

That’s possible but he is the back up for Hamlin. A guy who has been in the Bills system for a few years. I think he may not offer as much on ST so he doesn’t suit up. I would think he would do a reasonable job if called upon.

Ok well that’s the niners. This is the Bills and they operate differently. I am actually pleasantly surprised with Hamlin but for sure his coverage skills are a concern. As I said ultimately he will start and it’s certainly possible this year.

I’m not implying that at all. Those are strengths they posses along with experience. Without a doubt Bishop has more upside than either. Right now I make no assumptions that Bishop can’t tackle. I think it’s more processing the game. Also not implying he’s not a smart guy, but I think it takes time.

Super early for that statement. He will be a starter for the Bills in the future imho.

He was injured for the vast majority of training camp. Rapp is an nfl vet and Hamlin knows the system. At DB the Bills are pretty slow to play rookies in particular at the cerebral S spot. He’s the best athlete of the group but as the Texans bomb showed he’s not quite ready. I would fully expect he will back up this year and be in the mix to start next year. While both Rapp and Hamlin lack great coverage skills they are both decent tacklers. Liabilities in coverage at times ? Yes but this is currently who the Bills trust. Edwards also injured in camp is a bit more of a surprise since he’s an experienced guy.

Seems they have been for the most part this year. I’m thinking a new situation and better qb will help that.

Seems the time to bring in FA competition or an undrafted rookie was the off season. I like the practice squad idea even to get another guy to support his thought process.

Got ya and agree. But if Josh hits even one of the two deep balls it could have been a bit different story. Your overall point on his lack of use is fair as he didn’t get a bunch of targets. But he was a late FA at a nominal cost. He may have asked for his outright release or possibly will go back to the practice squad? But likely he’s done as a Bill 🤷🏻‍♂️

Meaning MVS? What pick ? He was 2.2 M against the cap, certainly worth the risk. He didn’t work out, but Josh missed him twice in long passes where he may have scored. One of multiple off season moves. Some work and don’t.

Also at the time of the 5th round he had a $20M contract so that’s a huge factor. Vs now essentially no cost. So that is the reason for the higher cost. Where with Adams the $$$ of the contract the Bills would not offer a 3rd to be burdened with another high $$$ WR contract. Bills get a player they need with no $$$ commitment to the future. Unless they both agree this is a good fit and a contract is offered in the off season. At a time when Diggs is off the books. It’s a great deal for the Bills.

The value of the 3rd is based on his low remaining $$ this and next year. We got a high valuable WR arguably in the range of Adams without the financial baggage. So a 3rd over a 4th is well with it imho!

Agreed AR just said they chose to rush 2. As if that was a bad idea. Why on earth would 50 and 57 be covering the sidelines on on obvious Hail Mary with 0 time outs. And a bad wind for the kicker if they tried a quick out. An absolute horrible decision by SM!!! And yes not executed on the back end by the 5-10 DB’s. It was mentioned how about 13 and 0 along with 24 who can jump out of the gym. These decisions just like 13 seconds demonstrates that SM is not capable of leading this top 6 talent team with arguably the second best qb in the NFL. We are unfortunately going to see this movie again.

Wasn’t Elam supposed to be CB3? I thought he had a decent camp according to all. Not sure what to make of it. And at what point when healthy do Edward’s and Bishop get time at S and how much 🤷🏻‍♂️