[One thing has me feeling better about the defense going forward...]

8 hours ago, aristocrat said:

be nice if we can get healthy after the buy week as well.  getting milano back will be so huge for the steelers game.

I cant help but think milano couldve played through his injury but we looked at the slate of AFC games to close out the season and figured it was smarter to let him heal up...but that is a complete guess of course

3 hours ago, noacls said:

Improvement? Last 3 game average they are giving up 29 points, 253 passing yards, 154 rushing yards.  They should have lost to NE. Changes have to be made or the playoffs may be a dream. 

I dont think we can ever play the 'should have lost' card again after what happened to us last night lol a defensive linemen stripping the ball from a quarterback is much more likely than that ridiculous hail mary 

[Bad coaching bringing this team down]

6 hours ago, High Football IQ said:

 

I think this is a very likely scenario especially if this team flounders and doesn't win the division this year, or heaven forbid even make the playoffs.

 

Either way his style of coaching is not sustainable and we keep hearing the same hollow platitudes week after week about how they need to score more points, execute their gameplan etc.

 

Either way will be interesting to see the pulse of Bills mafia if the Dolphins win the division this year because any window the Bills had will slam shut in a hurry given the Dolphins rise and all the money and draft picks in the first few rounds they have to get even better next year where the Bills will be heavily constrained because of all the poor moves they've made this past offseason.

I cannot for the life of me fathom how the loss yesterday in any way proves his style of coaching is unsustainable lol the dude overperformed with below average talent in previous years and is now atop the division with a lot of his key playmakers on defense playing injured/not playing at all.   even if Miami is this juggernaut that you say they are he is still well positioned to make the playoffs with a defense that is much more likely to improve going forward than regress.  How does Miami playing great make our coaching staff worse lol I still can't comprehend that.  

 

Also how is the path to the division being permanently shut in the future based on a dolphins 2020 winning streak haha this is an incredible take...is it a guarantee that Miami is going to draft great players? Are they somehow not constrained by the salary cap like every other team?  What recent dolphins draft picks have done anything?

Tua hasn't proven anything yet..Christian Wilkins is ehh, Michael deiter does nothing, Isaiah prince is gone, Austin Jackson is bad, igbinoghene is terrible, Robert hunt is bad, raekwon davis hasn't done anything, the list goes on.  Miami is the team who's window is now and closing you have it backwards.  You need your guys on rookie contracts to consistently  ball out or an elite quarterback that can put the team on his back to have some kind of epic patriots-esque dynasty and at this point they may have neither but we will see.  They traded a lot of top talent to acquire draft capital and did absolutely nothing with it...imagine if they had Minkah Fitzpatrick right now my goodness

People have this notion that a rookie qb is going to consistently improve week after week and that is far from the case

[Monday mornings after a win/loss]

1 minute ago, billsherd said:

I guess only thing good was that my fantasy team had both Murray and Hopkins. That last play did guarantee my win, but I would take losses for rest of the year for the Bills win. 

That last play pretty much ended my fantasy season.....😁 no silver lining here

[Remaining schedule...]

14 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Chargers - Win

Niners - Win

Steelers - Loss 

Broncos - Win

Patriots - Win 

Mia - Win

 

 

Mia 

Broncos - Loss

Jets - Win 

Bengals Win (for now) 

Chiefs - Loss

Pats - Loss

Raiders - Loss 

Bills - Loss. (Unless it doesn’t matter) 

 

sounds like Tyrod and Lamar career #s
 

I kind of agree with you here...all the teams left on both teams schedule(except for the jets) are teams that are built to compete with anybody.  Idk how anyone can guarantee the dolphins beat any of them including a jets team desperate for a win to avoid that 0-16 mark.  I've gotta give the edge to a battle tested bills team at this point but that could definitely change.  

[Go get DeAndre Baker!!]

I like the 'sign jordan Howard and steal the dolphins playbook' idea a lot better 🤣

[Monday mornings after a win/loss]

8 hours ago, BillsCuse said:

I definitely will not be watching or listening to any sports shows today.  That play is going to be on every show and be repeated constantly all day.  I already made the mistake of going on social media - I shut that off very quickly.

Idk whats wrong with me I am always that way but this game didn't bother me like that for some reason.  It was an all time epic play...yea it was at our expense but it feels like a piece of history kind of I guess? 😁 every time I see the play it becomes more apparent how lucky it was so I really haven't had to avoid it.  if the cardinals got the ball back with more time left and marched down the field and scored on a more traditional drive I wouldve been a lot more pissed for some reason...not sure if that makes sense to anyone else lol

[Completely incensed by the officiating yesterday]

Honestly as much as I laughed at this notion in years past I feel like we should be good enough to beat the cardinals and the refs at this point 🤣

[Pick 2 teams to disappear from NFL without anyone noticing]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

There's not much else in that city to look forward to

Big shout out to our fan base that I dont think any NFL fan would choose the bills as an answer to this question...10 or so years ago we would've been a unanimous choice probably 🤣

[Ok This Dolphins talk is getting out of hand.]

42 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

What’s impressive about Miami is their D which is top 6 for points allowed.. that’s huge it’s a lot easier to win when all you need is 21 points as opposed to Buffalo O that needs on average 27 points. The fact the Bills have only lost 3 games tells you how amazing the Bills O has been.

Miami has had the benefit of making teams one dimensional due to defensive touchdowns helping them build a big lead.  Maybe they will continue their great play going forward without that benefit we will all have to wait and see 🤣 i have a sneaking suspicion your pats are going to thrash them and may beat us too although I think we're a little bit better equipped since our qb has seen the pats defense quite a few times now 

Thats why all these 'dolphins are going to run the table' posts are making me scratch my head a little...I will take bill belichick with anyone on his roster over a rookie qb every single time 

[Bad coaching bringing this team down]

1 minute ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

 

Well I dunno about that...we held the Ravens and Pats to 24 and the Texans to 19 in regular time when those top level QB's were all white hot.

 

Last year's defence was playing with a lot of confidence. I don't think that is the case this year. The question for me is - how much of that is on Frazier?

 

Yea I just took a look...I think the eagles game had me scarred lol it was better than I remember.  

I doubt much of it is on Frazier but you have to try something to get a spark for sure...our linebackers were horrendous for most of the season.  We definitely do not have the depth there that we thought we had before the season.  I think a lot of our big impact defenders have been playing hurt all season hopefully they get healthier 

[Bad coaching bringing this team down]

2 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

 

True.

 

But it's also a numbers game:

 

- 32 v Rams

- 28 v Fish

- 24 v Raiders

- 42 v Titans

- 26 v KC (in BAD weather)

- 21 v Pats (would likely have been 28 if Cam doesn't fumble)

- 34 v Hawks

- 32 v Cards

 

These are simply not "Playoff Calibre" numbers.

 

If I am McD, I am putting Frazier on notice.

Oh yea I wouldnt object to putting him on notice lol but eye test wise it seems like theyre hanging with top offensive talent better than we have in years past at least in the last couple games.  I'd have to go back into box scores from last year but just thinking about last season it seems like our defense made a living dismantling bad quarterbacks and didn't really show up for big games 

I wouldve had zero confidence wed hold this years cardinals and Seahawks and rams under 35 points if we played them last year lol thats why that loss last night was such a shame going 3-0 against those three teams in insanely impressive and something we never would've even dreamed of in recent years

[Morse not starting was a "football decision" per McD]

Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

It would have been easy for McDermott to say they didn't want to rush him back. Instead, he chose the much more controversial truth: it had nothing to do with Morse's health. I mean, he specifically said this, so people arguing otherwise at this point sound really silly.

You could be right obviously I have no idea whats going on behind closed doors lol I feel like saying 'hey our offensive line got owned and mitch was healthy enough to play but we wanted to save him for more important games down the road and we thought we could win it without him' would be arguably much more controversial.  

[Bad coaching bringing this team down]

3 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

Must admit that I am beginning to lose faith in Leslie.

 

From last year we have lost Star, Shaq and Jordan Phillips. We have gained Harry, Jefferson, Addison, Epanesa, Norman and Butler. On paper, I would argue that the difference in talent lost v talent acquired is negligible.

 

I recognise that COVID and injuries have played their part but it is still hard to justify the substantial drop in performance.

 

The buck stops with Leslie Frazier.

Gotta factor in the schedule too we had a lot of bad qbs roll through last year.

[Morse not starting was a "football decision" per McD]

Just now, delirious said:

Hard for me to believe that Feliciano would not be an upgrade over Winters, and that having Morse and Feliciano both on the line would be a NET upgrade over the current rotation. 

 

I better see that same attitude when Ford can come back, because I think Boettger has been playing at or above Ford's level at LG.  JMO

I dont buy what he said I dont think you can admit you held out a player that likely wouldve swung the game because you wanted to make sure he was healthy for the upcoming afc games lol morse will magically have a great week of practice and be starting again against the chargers

[Ok This Dolphins talk is getting out of hand.]

21 minutes ago, Putin said:

The only thing impressive about the dolphins is they’re defense and special teams , if our defense and ST played like that we’d be 10-0 and would  beat EVERYONE by 20 points , so let’s not pretend that little midget and that offense is the reason Miami is winning, 

and BTW maybe it’s just me but I don’t consider winning by 10 points to be a blowout 

Our own fans would also be talking about how we're a lucky team that isn't good if we were winning the way the dolphins are winning 🤣 if Josh doesn't throw for 300+ with 0 interceptions a win doesn't count

33 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Dolphins are among the conference and league leaders with blowout victories and 4 of their six wins have been by 10+ points.

 

Unfortunately the Bills have no such wins under their belt and the largest margin of victory has been 10 points twice (Jets & Seahawks).

 

The last few weeks the Dolphins have won by 3 and 8 points which may be a positive sign in hopes their winning way slow down but one of those games was against the same Cardinals team we just played who is presumably a top contender in the NFC.

Is a win somehow worth more when you blow a team out lol I just dont understand this logic...the bills couldve scored an extra 7-14 points in quite a few of their wins if they knew they needed to hit a certain margin of victory threshold to satisfy you haha

[Remaining schedule...]

1 minute ago, High Football IQ said:

 

I posted an article last week from NFL.com that compared this Dolphins team to that 2001 Pats team. I've been saying they look a lot like the Parcells 98 Jets team that overcame a similar bad start to roll all the way to the AFC championship game and lose to eventual champion Broncos but this 2001 Pats comparison is very intriguing as well.

 

Not sure Flores was even affiliated with the Patriots then but it's a scary comparison if true because just as everyone thinks the Pats are out of the way and the Bills have some sort of clear path to AFC East dominance again here comes the Dolphins who will only get better in the years ahead especially with the draft capitol and draft picks they have this upcoming offseason. In fact if the Dolphins do somehow win the SB this year talk about a true dynasty in the making.

 

Either way the talk of the Dolphins being a lucky team is silly. Luck simply doesn't create the type of plays that Miami is making in all three phases of the game and when you play with confidence each week knowing your the better team from top to bottom it's infectious and the momentum is going to keep building for this team at least the next few weeks given the upcoming schedule.

 

This is the biggest difference between the Bills and Dolphins and their respective coaching philosophies....one 'hopes' to win the other 'expects' it.

 

 

I'm firmly in the 'a win us a win' camp but tua is absolutely going to have to carry the team in at least one of those games if they're going to run the table like you are suggesting.  I have watched a handful of Tua passes sail right through defenders hands while theyre creating an unsustainable amount of turnovers on the other side. Odds are just as good that they cool off as they are that they continue to play well but the notion that they're going to finish 5-1 is a huge reach right now.  This 'the bills only hope to win' angle is a bit ridiculous though in my opinion as a team who lost a starting cornerback to covid protocols and held out mitch morse who is hundreds of times better than Brian winters went down to Arizona and got beat by a fluke play.   

[Remaining schedule...]

1 minute ago, High Football IQ said:

 

At this point this is certainly a viable scenario that all fans should be considering especially since the toughest game on paper left for the Dolphins is the Chiefs but they do get them at home.

 

Right now I have the Dolphins losing that game and finishing 12-4 which means there is a chance the game won't matter for them in terms of winning the division and/or seeding. If they actually beat the Chiefs it becomes even more unlikely the division is in play for the Bills by week 17.

 

A true nightmare scenario for the Bills would be like 2004 but worse since it would be a hated division rival's backups and our old friend Fitzpatrick beating the Bills and ending their season at home. There won't be enough koolaid in the world from preventing fans from turning on this regime and Allen if that happens.

If they finish 10-6 and just somehow miss three wildcard spots at that record missing the playoffs because the dolphins decided to start their more experienced veteran quarterback to rest their inexperienced qb for the playoffs no one will turn on this regime 🤣 you have the dolphins winning 11 of their final 12 games how is that bills ineptitude if the dolphins pull that off when we only play them once.  What you're saying is certainly possible but I would put that firmly in the 'hot take' category at the moment

[Remaining schedule...]

31 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I'm definitely not "LOL" writing off the Steelers game..  We just beat Seattle convincingly and lost a last second 50/50 game at Arizona. 

 

 

Yea I dont understand the fear of Pittsburgh...id rather play them than KC. I think we are unrealistically negative about our teams chances.  Yea we could lose to someone like San Francisco but were talking like its an impossibility that Miami will drop a similar game lol

[Remaining schedule...]

16 hours ago, LB48 said:

With Tua playing so well I think the Dolphins will win the division and we'll be just outside the play-off curve.  NO defense kills us.

Do people know theres three wildcards now? You think all 3 wildcards will be better than 10-6?

[Lost in the loss...was the most clutch play we have seen in 20+ years]

17 hours ago, High Football IQ said:

 

We don't own the division, next week the Fish will be 7-3 and tied with us in the loss column. And given their next 3 they will be 9-3 which means the pressure is on the Bills to win the next two and keep pace.

 

And it's highly unlikely this team is going to be 11-4 heading into the final game against Miami. What is very likely is Miami will be 11-4 heading into that game assuming they lose to the Chiefs, if they don't they will likely have the division clinched by the time we play them.

We don't need to have the same record as Miami going into week 17...we can be 10-5 if Miami is 11-4 which is very likely 

Our loss yesterday took away the slim chance that we could lose to Miami and still win the division 

[For those going after our defensive backs...]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

I mean it’s totally worth it in my opinion. We either send the house with a pass rush or pull everyone back. Having all your CBs on the field plus Allen and a tall TE/WR on the field is literally no risk other than injury. Nothing worse than being an athletic QB who just let the team to a lead only to lose to a hailmary. As a coach, I’m giving a tall QB a shot 99% of the time. 

Youd think theyd have some kind of plan for Hopkins there like that...they couldve covered him with 6 dbs there and he still makes that catch lol I wonder if Josh could track a long pass like that its pretty difficult to do and time your jump properly...I'll never forget gronk missing a huge tackle on a last second kick return against thr dolphins that cost the pats the game so that kind of stuff makes me nervous lol im sure Bill had the same thought process as what were talking about

[For those going after our defensive backs...]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

 
Allen is literally one of the tallest guys we have that can jump. I’m probably in the rare majority here, but he would have gotten the nod from me if he wanted it. 

Looking back on it and seeing what didn't work that certainly seems like an option...hes still behind a healthy margin in vertical and wingspan but im sure he wouldve at least bodied Hopkins a little bit 🤣 it doesn't even sound possible but if you factor in the jump and everything else Hopkins has like a 10 inch advantage over white even though white is only a few inches shorter.  I cant think of anyone else besides Josh that wouldve even had a chance and I dont think they'd let their qb in there 

[For those going after our defensive backs...]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

It was a weak ass jump by White.  It’s not like Hopkins is some kind of athletic freak who out-jumps guys for balls.  Hopkins has great hands.  The fact that White let Hopkins get 2 hands on the ball was pathetic.  Terrible play by White.  

Hopkins has a 5 inch higher vertical than white according to combine stats and probably the biggest hands in the history of hands and the wingspan of a 7 foot tall dude...he was literally built in a lab for the sole purpose of outjumping guys for balls 🤣🤣

2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Then as a coach, why wouldn’t you put someone in the end zone with height that can jump full knowing a Hail Mary is coming. It’s inexcusable. 

I just think we don't have anyone tall enough for that...I was debating someone on here about the size difference between white and Hopkins in another thread but it is a massive mismatch when you factor in their verticals and Hopkins' wingspan...i don't think we have receivers tall enough that couldve made a difference do we? we needed to jostle him around on his way up which rarely gets called as pi on the final play so we get away with it likely or get to Murray before he threw the ball 

[Bad coaching bringing this team down]

7 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

It should not have caught anyone off guard and a tall receiver should have been in the end zone. If you're going to play a ridiculously soft prevent D at least do it right. 

Why were they caught off guard? What else did they have left but two desperation shots at the end zone?

Oh yea they shouldn't have been for sure lol I meant once you see Kyler running hard to his left side they probably weren't making their best effort to disrupt Hopkins and risk a penalty as if they were badly out of position since they were not expecting an across his body 50 yard laserbeam ball that he could perfectly highpoint out of the air.  I didnt mean the playcall caught them off guard.   I guess theoretically as far as playcalling goes the cards couldve run a play to get about half along the sideline 

[Ok This Dolphins talk is getting out of hand.]

5 minutes ago, Nelius said:

So is the only thing that's really separating the Dolphins "soft" schedule and our "impossible" schedule the Steelers? They're very good and look tough to beat but the Fins still have the Chiefs. I'm not really seeing the great schedule disparity that others seem to be. Unless you're terrified of the 4-6 49ers, I guess? Fish still have the Chiefs, Raiders, Pats. We have the Steelers, 49ers, and Pats. Seems quite even down the stretch really.

Same...this cardinals away game was the last unequally tough game we had left compared to their schedule id say.  Im a little confused at the schedule comparisons.