Einstein's Dog

In addition to the many on this board, I will supply this from Fantasy Football Index's Offseason Transaction Report 2024. You would agree that Beane is in charge of the Bills Offseason transactions, right? BUFFALO BILLS Key gains: WR Keon Coleman (2nd), WR Curtis Samuel (Was.), S Mike Edwards (K.C.), RB Ray Davis (4th), WR Mack Hollins (Atl.), WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling (K.C.), LB Nicholas Morrow (Phi.). Key losses: WR Stefon Diggs (trade), C Mitch Morse (cut), DE Leonard Floyd (S.F.), CB Dane Jackson (Car.), CB TreDavious White (LAR), WR Gabe Davis (Jac.), S Jordan Poyer (Mia.), RB Latavius Murray. F The most dramatic changes are at wide receiver. Diggs wasn’t much of a factor the second half of last season and Gabe Davis was annually inconsistent, but there likely will be growing pains with all the new faces. Josh Allen lobbied for the team to select Coleman, while Samuel has worked with this offensive coordinator in the past. … Buffalo also shed several starting defenders. Injuries limited some of them, but the pass rush and secondary won’t be as good. … Ray Davis lasted until the fourth round but put up 21 touchdowns last year at Kentucky, looking like he’ll be better than anybody who backed up James Cook last year.

You don't know that KC would almost certainly get him. KC gave up draft assets to move up, I don't think they thought what you are claiming. What happens with Worthy and Coleman is pertinent to Bills fans. Beane dealt the pick to a rival. Beane has had a rough year and if it turns out that this bold move was a blunder the thin ice he may be on could break. So far the Worthy/K Coleman saga is going Beane's way.

No one is paying those $44M prices, that is just the way his contract with the Raiders was structured. That is why there are so many rumors about trading Adams. If the Raiders don't move D Adams now then after this season they will get nothing for him. A team that trades for D Adams would give him a new contract that would include a signing bonus and guaranteed money. But I agree in that I don't see how the Jets could do it, they already have pre-spent into the future with several deals, most notably Rodgers.

I thought Beane had said it was the other way around, that need became more of a factor in the later rounds. Beane says a lot, so both could have been said. In any event, what a coincidence that all their highest ranking players fit needs for the team - WR/S/DT/RB/C/LB/DE/OT/CB. Wow, got lucky there.

It shouldn't just be for this season, that is one of the problems that is catching up to this FO. A double dip on the WR was to help the future state of the WR room - along with solidifying their bet that they hit on one for this year - kind of like the Elam then Benford double dip The "fix" is a huge portion of the Claypool problem. And they could of double dipped and picked up the dumpster dive priced Claypool. Yes, the FO thought drafting the DT/RB and others over a WR was a good idea. It is this low prioritization of the WR room that I (and many others) are having problems with. And lets not forget they ended the draft with extra capital that they convert to carrying over to next year, in an extra 4th.

Claypool is still a resurrection project, he has been with multiple teams and has not stuck. A draft pick would offer a much greater level of optimism and signify more of a commitment to supplying offensive weapons than the dumpster diving that they did. A late 3rd or 4th round pick would IMO be much more exciting than MVS/Claypool/Hamler. If the FO knew an upgrade this season was not realistic it would have been much better to double dip - see SF (and they have a much better WR room).

Claypool + Hamler are nowhere near the same as double dipping. They are players that were drafted that did not materialize into the players the team that drafted them had hoped for. They are resurrection projects, not lotto ticket types. Brady's structure of offense is handicapped by the personnel he is given. It doesn't seem like there is much choice but to continue the dink and dunk, conservative complementary style. While this may be Brady's preferred style, we won't be able to make a good determination of that based on what he has to work with.

I agree, the other offensive pieces are exciting - several young improving rooms - the TE room is excellent, and the RBs being headlined with an improving Cook makes for a bright future. But the OP specifically mentioned WRs. And that particular area is a hot topic. Part of the reason IMO, it's a hot topic is because of the improvement of the other areas, and if the WR room was up to the prior years standards this would be the most exciting offensive potential we've had in years.

The OP subject thread is headlined with "I'm starting to love the WR room. We quietly got better". The topic is WR room.

They're all Divas. Hard to really like any of them. St Brown is the closest you can get to for anyone to root for. It seems WRs as a group have lost the common decency of keeping their selfish thoughts to themselves. As it pertains to the Bills, I can see getting one of these top tier WRs as a problem to the spreading out of the ball philosophy. D Adams couldn't keep his mouth shut and complained about targets during a win.

I don't think the Claypool problem comes from Hollis, IMO, Hollis should be easy to overtake. The problem I can see is with K Coleman getting reps over Claypool when Claypool is outplaying Coleman. But the FO wants Coleman in there instead. The lineup/reps would be going to Shakir/C Samuel/and K Coleman. Coleman is the first pick in the draft and the FO is going to want to get him experience even if it comes at the expense of Claypool. That can be tough to take. And Claypool doesn't have a history of handling situations well.

I think Digg's problem with the coaching staff was not McDermott but J Brady. The taking himself out on key 3rd downs when he wasn't injured is unacceptable. I think it was a Diggs or J Brady situation and the FO/team chose J Brady.

You're doing one thing to one element of the data set and then not doing the same thing to the others. A lot of teams have games where their run game is working and they don't rely on the pass, yet you keep those games in for them. What you are doing is not providing an accurate picture.

If you're taking out Josh's worst statistical game you should take out the others worst game. And since you are using just a half year for Josh and extrapolating it, you would need to take out the 2 worst games for the others. You're trying to play games with the numbers to make it look better.

I was at the same point, thru episode 2 and had the same thoughts. After episode 3 and starting episode 4 the enthusiasm has gone down dramatically. D Adams would want targets, that championship angle really waned when times got tough.. Not the type of distributing to the open man guy. I'd much rather have Metcalf now (although I know he's not available now). Would like DHop over the two (Adams + Aiyuk) too.

Adams would want a new deal, and the acquiring team would want to give him a new deal - Adams is scheduled to make $35M the next two years. That is the motivation for the Raiders to move him. They never intended to pay him his inflated 2025 salary. D Adams would be amenable to being traded because his new deal would get more upfront guaranteed money. And the Bills should be a great candidate because we have no WR1 and Josh Allen as the QB.- Great spot for him on his quest for the HOF.

Could depend on the contract and how much the Raiders take in. We have 2 second round picks, maybe give up ours. Getting Adams for 2-3 years at the $20M range might be easier for the FO to take.

My error. It's not his contract but his cap hit that makes the Raiders want to move him. D Adams is scheduled for $35M base next year, I doubt that's in anyone's plans.

The Raiders would move Adams to get draft capital. They realize their QB situation is dreadful. D Adams will be a FA at the end of the year so if they don't trade him now they get nothing for him. IMO the Bills make more sense than the Jets. The Jets already have M Williams and G Wilson. Plus the Jets are going to be paying the price for A Rodgers big contract in the future. The Bills have 2 seconds, if they float one of them out there it should be enough to get it done.

The problem with Aiyuk is he has established himself as a whiner. Showing that me-first attitude that is hard to deal with. And Aiyuk wants top dollar. Although in this instance I guess a lot of it could be put off into the future. I agree with the sentiment, just getting a top tier WR changes the whole complexion/makeup of the WR room. The odds of it happening this season seem low but one of Aiyuk/Adams/Metcalf/Dhop would really help.

I'm with you on hoping the Bills can maintain a pass centric offense that uses Josh's strengths. But this year the choice of where the limited resources went signals trouble- at least as far as the WR room is concerned. It's starting to look like a choice was made when the FO opted to take J Brady as OC. This is looking now like it was a Diggs or Brady choice. Prior to the end of the season I thought Diggs was hurt and Brady was adapting the offense to the personnel. Now it's starting to look like this is the offense Brady wants to run (with McD/Beane blessings). Of course this can work, but stylistically I envy the path of some of the other franchises. Callahan in Tenn brought in Ridley and Boyd when he already had DHop and Burks - nice. True they don't have a franchise QB, but then Philly paid all of Hurts/AJ Brown and D Smith. SF is going to have to pay Purdy and has Deebo and Aiyuk and drafted WRs in the first and 4th.

No, I hope not. I don't like the idea that the FO doesn't prioritize offensive weaponry for Josh. Having one top tier WR on your team is the average. And at one point when we had Diggs/Brown/Beasley we were cooking. But I think when we lost DaBoll the Bills lost a strong voice for offense and the overall plan for weaponry for Josh has suffered. IMO, you reach a false positive conclusion by only looking at additions and not taking into account the subtractions. To highlight this, by your account this year showed a high priority because they invested their first pick. When in reality, we all know this has been a huge step backwards.

Samuel cost $8M, that's less than G Davis and Samuel is the most expensive WR for the Bills this year. Hard not to think that investing in WR is a low priority. Seems you have me confused with someone else, I was not begging for Franklin, quite the opposite. I thought at the time if the FO didn't double dip they had plans to trade for a WR when the Tre money became available. I didn't think a great GM would go into the season with their best WR being C Samuel (and at the time I thought Beane was a great GM), especially in the midst of Josh's prime. So yeah, it's been a rough off-season for me (and some others here). I've never rooted for the Bills to lose but now I have to wonder what kind of record would it take for Pegula to pull the plug on Beane/McD and get someone in here who make it a priority to surround Josh with weapons.

For me the frustration is in the realization that the FO has the WR group as a low priority. Baldo and Gunner have previously said it, but I didn't believe it. Only the diehards like the OP, can rearrange what is staring us all in the face and paint a rosy picture with it. For the group of Bills fans that would like to have Josh slinging the ball to excellent WRs, this does not seem to be the year for them. And then there is the uncertainty of what happens if the Bills have a good season with using pathetic WRs? Does it continue?

I seem to like K Coleman more than you. one thing that may have had appeal for K Coleman was his attitude and interview. He will be a fit in the new young culture they're bringing in. The disconnect I have with the FO on this move is, for a young, developing player with special gifts you take him at the end of the first. The small move down into the second would seem to be for someone with a lower ceiling who was more pro-ready for immediate benefits - a McConkey type.