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He’s literally said he’d rather be good at playing football than bad at playing football. What more do you need?

If Joe Burrow starts 12 games next year and throws for 3300 yards, 21 TDs and 6 INTs, he will exceed expectations. Of course Minshew is above Allen. He’s way ahead of Allen.

RB is a huge need for the Chiefs. Damien Williams is 28, has 1,200 career rushing yards, and gets hurt a lot. He is a nice player, but he’s not a bell cow by any stretch. He can flat out score, though. He is exactly what Buffalo needs to pair with Singletary. There are a ton of good RB options in this draft so I wouldn’t take one this early, but KC will almost certainly take one at some point. I think Terrell would be their pick here.

I’m dumb. Most of you already knew that, though.

WOW. Chargers trade up, and it’s not for a QB. This draft is wildin’.

I just don’t see it with him at all. I’d prefer Anthony Gordon of you’re looking for the next Mahomes type player. Both are more likely to bust than be great, but Gordon could likely be had in the 5th round, and he produced in college. I HATE the idea of drafting QBs who didn’t dominate in college. It’s hard to say who will be good in the NFL, but it’s easy to say who won’t.

His statement, like pretty much everything else about him, was perfectly bland. People choose to take perfectly innocuous comments and twist them into the narrative of their choice and pretend it means something, but it doesn’t. The same people criticizing him for this would be calling him a crybaby primadonna if he said it would suck playing in empty stadiums. He can’t win with some people. If you want to hate him because he’s milquetoast then go right ahead, but if what he said makes you clutch your pearls, then you’re just looking for a reason to criticize him.

Maybe he’ll carry himself better while throwing 26 TDs and 6 INTs again next year in an empty stadium.

If Josh had said the same thing, the thread title would be “Josh Allen shows that he’s a gamer who just wants to play anywhere, anytime, in any circumstances”.

WTF is this supposed to mean to people today? Seriously. Show me the QB who said he’d prefer to burn out in 4 years to being a 15 year great. There’s no rule that says you have to leave the NFL after 4 seasons if you play well on your rookie contract.

Just admit it. You want the QB of your favorite football team to fail despite having a Super Bowl contender level roster. It’s obvious.

So if my kids get four Fs and two Ds on their report cards, does it mean I don’t want them to succeed if I point out that their grades are terrible?

In two games against NE, he threw for 153 and 208. The margins of those games were 6 and 7. Got to think an extra 147 yards and 92 yards would have made a difference. (He threw 28 passes before he got hurt in the first game). He also threw for 146 yards in a 7 point loss to Baltimore. That isn’t to say that 300 is some magic number, but NFL QBs routinely exceed that threshold. It’s not even a “wow” number. Allen’s never even come close. His best is 266, and that took him 41 attempts to reach. Just for comparison, Mahomes has played 35 career games including the postseason. He’s exceeded 266 yards 28 times, 300 yards 19 times, and 400 yards 3 times. At some point, a franchise QB needs to have the ability to get into the zone and start throwing the ball all over the yard. I’m pretty confident he will hit 300 multiple times this season.

Maybe we’re just talking past each other. I’m saying that Cooper is a good player when he’s got a good QB. Give him Dak, and you get big numbers. Give him modern day Carr, and you get pedestrian numbers. Give him whatever QB you can get for league minimum, and you’ll get less than that. My point is that paying Cooper $20,000,000 is a complete waste if they decide to save money by not paying Dak.

You deliberately misrepresented the situation by only using data from 5 years ago before Carr fell off a cliff. Cooper’s production was in a free fall prior to the trade. He averaged 49 YPG with Carr in 2017 and 47 YPG with him in 2018 (plus 1 TD in 6 games). He averaged 81 YPG with 6 TDs in 9 games after the trade in 2018 then backed it up with 74 YPG and 8 TDs in 2019. The difference between his career arc prior to the trade and after it is striking.

That $20,000,000 WR’s production with Carr was crap compared to what it was with Dak. Who helped who? Let Dak walk and see how Cooper does catching passes from Mariota while Jake Fromm waits for his turn on the carousel.

Just so I’m clear, you’re saying that all a QB has to do in order to get respect is to throw 56 TDs, 15 INTs in 2 seasons, win on the road in the playoffs at New Orleans, and then win on the road against the best defense in the NFL when his team gets outrushed by 160 yards? I’m assuming he’d have had to outduel Mahomes in the Super Bowl as well or we’d be having this same conversation. He’s a guy people love to disrespect, but he’s absolutely a top 10 QB. Honestly, I kind of do get it. I’ve watched him enough to know that there are 2 plays a game when he does something that seems totally gutless, but he puts up numbers and wins a ton of games. Alex Smith was the same way, but Cousins puts up bigger numbers. The Vikings would be a perfect candidate to draft a QB with huge upside similar to what KC did.

No he wasn’t. He was 21/31 with 1 TD and 1 turnover on the road against the best defense in football. They lost because they had 21 yards rushing and gave up 6 sacks.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=401131038

Every GM would take Dak. It’s not even close. How is Allen’s ceiling higher than Dak’s? Prescott’s worst season is way better than Josh’s best season, and they aren’t that far apart enough in age. Dak has also proven to be considerably more durable which would be a huge consideration in an exercise like this.

That’s a chicken/egg situation. Teams aren’t winning because they run. They run because they’re winning. The teams who run the most kneel downs have the highest winning percentage, but that doesn’t mean teams need to implement kneel-heavy offenses. As your last sentence implies, teams throw to score and run to kill the clock.

He’s given them 4 years of top 10 QB production for pennies on the dollar. His performance has been worth easily $30,000,000 in terms of value per year. He’s averaged less than $3,000,000. He’s damn right that he deserves $35,000,000. What have they done with that $120,000,000 in surplus value that leads anyone to believe that the Cowboys can build a competitive team around him if he makes $32,000,000 but not if he makes $35,000,000? Good luck finding another 26 year old QB to give you 30 TDs and 5,000 yards without turning the ball over who doesn’t want to be paid elite money.

What does Cousins have to do for people to start respecting him? He’s thrown 56 TDs and 15 INTs in his two seasons with Minnesota. He threw for nearly 5,000 yards for the freaking Redskins. He’s Phillip Rivers.

It’s simple math, really. There are 32 teams, and there are maybe 10-20 people on the planet capable of being a franchise QB. Throwing numbers at the situation doesn’t change the equation. It’s interesting to me how little ink gets devoted to what the Chiefs did. They had a franchise QB playing at his peak, and they still made a huge move to get someone they saw as a superstar. I don’t think that had ever been done before, and I know it hasn’t been done since. It was brilliant because it worked, but I don’t know who has the balls to try something similar. It does make sense that bringing a young QB in when you’ve got the ability to ease him into a good situation rather than throw him into a mess is a winning strategy, but it’s a luxury that few teams have. I wouldn’t be shocked to see KC draft someone like Anthony Gordon in the 5th round, groom him, and trade him for a high draft pick to a QB needy team that doesn’t have the time/ability to groom their own (similar to what the Patriots did with Brissett and Jimmy G.)

You clearly didn’t watch that game. Jackson was incredible, and his receivers dropped everything including one that bounced to a DB for an INT.