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You and every other $50 player. Denver and New England all day. I’m planning on pounding the Panthers all year. Panthers over 5.5 wins in 2020 might be my new ‘Bills over 6.5 in 2019’. Boy are their message board fans going to get sick of me when I’m their problem instead of yours... Yeah. If there’s one coach in history I want to manage a truncated offseason, it’s BB. Fade him at your own risk.

Is the Thursday night game considered prime time? I guess it technically is, but gross.

I’m a Chiefs fan. I became a Bills follower because of the two bets I placed prior to the season, and I didn’t have any action on any individual Buffalo games last season. Going into the season, I saw NE as a 10-6 team and Buffalo as an 8 or 9 win team. When I made the bet, Buffalo was +1700, so I put $250 on them. That number dropped to around 1200 by the time the season started IIRC. Their win total was 6.5 and I pounded the hell out of that. It moved to 7 and might have even touched 7.5 at one point. New England shocked me by looking like a juggernaut to start the season, but they wound up being about who I expected by the time the season ended. I vastly underestimated their defense and special teams’ ability to pull games out of the fire. I’m not the first guy to get burned betting against BB, but I still feel like it was a good value at those odds.

For sure, but it’s not a stretch to say that’s why it’s burned into my memory. Things work both ways, but you always remember the losses better. I had a much larger bet on the Bills winning over 6.5 games, and I remember feeling like stealing the week 1 Jets game iced that one. (It still didn’t pay as much as the division win would have, though.)

I put a pretty sizeable bet on the Bills to win the AFCE before the season. If they had won that game, I believe they would have played their starters in week 17, beat the Jets, and finished tied with New England. They would have been 5-1 in the division and won the tie breaker.

Without that hit, it would have been 3rd and 18 from the Buffalo 46. Allen may have played the worst game I’ve seen a QB play since Peterman’s debacle. If Josh had another quarter, he may have surpassed that. (The link to the condensed version of the game is below). The first quarter was absolutely the worst display of QBing I’ve ever seen, bar none. I challenge anyone to watch it again and say otherwise. That game wound up costing me a lot of money. I remember it well. He was missing receivers by yards on swing passes, deep balls, and sideline routes. He took horrific sacks where he looked completely lost on the field. He fumbled twice (one was waived off because of a penalty). It was abysmal. https://gamepass.nfl.com/game/patriots-at-bills-on-09292019?condensed=true

The game where he was 13-28 with 0 TDs and 3 INTs and a fumble? Probably not.

Didn't the Jets also miss a PAT and a couple of FGs?

There are going to be a lot of shocked fans around here soon. Let’s look at the backup QBs BB has had in New England: Tom Brady: 9 Super Bowls, 6 rings Matt Cassel: 11-5 in NE and made the playoffs and a pro bowl in Kansas City Jacoby Brissett: Started for the Colts Jimmy G: Started in the Super Bowl I think it’s safe to say that BB understands how to find and groom backup QBs. There have never been more starting QBs available as this season between Rivers, Brady, Newton, Dalton, Winston, Bridgewater, etc. If BB didn’t think Stidham was the guy, he had plenty of options. I haven’t seen any indication that he’s interested. If that changes, there are still solid options available. They had a bad offense, a great defense, and great special teams last year. No reason to think they can’t pull off something similar this year. I don’t know if they’re going to compete for the bye, but they’re still going to be smart, disciplined, and well coached in all facets. That’s enough to be a good team. I’ve watched a ridiculous amount of condensed replays on Gamepass this offseason, and I’m amazed at how undisciplined and unprepared many teams are. A tremendous amount of games are decided because a team beats itself. That team is never coached by BB. They look like a 6-10 team to me on paper, but I know better. So does Vegas.

I don’t think much of him as a coach, but he did well last year. They were expected to win 7 games according to Vegas. They hit that number in spite of the fact that their starting QB was out or less than 100% for several games. New York has a talent problem. Can’t really expect much better than 7-9 with that roster.

This thread is revisionist history at it’s finest.

What authority does the league have to punish agents?

He threw 24 TDs and 12 INTs in 2018. He’s plenty good enough to be a backup for a long, long time. I could see him become a decent player if he went somewhere like KC or New Orleans and had great coaching. I don’t think he’s getting that in Chicago.

I agree with both of you. Just saying that his 5th year option really doesn’t provide much value over the franchise tag.

This isn’t the nail in his coffin people are making it out to be. The franchise tag is $24 million, and the 5th year option is $19 million. No reason to risk guaranteeing him for injury unless they’re 90% sure they want him.

The tipped ball signal was due to the defender he drilled.

Totally agree. (By the way, I wouldn’t recommend reading that Mahomes thread if I were you. Not your finest hour.)

I’m reading that thread now. It’s a whose who of terrible posters giving terrible takes about how Andy Reid is a terrible coach, Mahomes will bust, etc.

So now every player with a pop gun arm is Tom Brady.

I think he did, actually. Don’t remember how it all turned out, but it seems like he got some money out of the deal. I haven’t seen the guy in close to 20 years.

20+ years ago, a friend of mine was in a club. He was at the bar waiting for a drink. While he was waiting, he and the (beautiful) woman next to him starting casually chatting. Out of nowhere, this giant dude charged at him from across the room and beat him to a pulp. Broke his ribs, punctured his lung... It was bad. Turns out talking to Scott Steiner’s girl is a bad idea.

DiMarco was not the target on that play. Josh got flustered and chucked it deep.

The line didn’t fail. Allen had all day to throw. The announcer’s call was literally, “Allen...Look at the time he has!” The Texans had three men on the line and 8 in coverage. Then they dropped the nose back into coverage. It was a 2 man rush. Go to the 38:30 mark in this video. https://gamepass.nfl.com/game/bills-at-texans-on-01042020?condensed=true Saying the line failed is literally just making things up. There were 5 linemen blocking 2 rushers, and even those 2 were just sort of there. They weren’t really even trying to pressure.

It’s surely not by design that it worked out that way, but you aren’t wrong. If you can get two defenders to cover DiMarco 40 yards down the field, that’s a win. The problem is Josh actually decided to throw it to DiMarco. This is a pretty good breakdown of the good, bad, and ugly of that game. https://www.theringer.com/2020/1/5/21050032/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-houston-texans-wild-card-round-lateral-catch