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Josh trying to end the game on his terms with the rare double pick

Mahomes lost partly because of an awful pick vs this team just last week. Margin of error is smaller against great teams. Difference between Josh and Mahomes is how many times it happens per year.

McD has got to stop turning it over in our zone lol

He could just…. not throw horrific picks. it’s not that complicated

Run the “make the field goal” play please lol

This is the best defensive gameplan since Howell, right?

Sean McDermott COTY????

Step on the throat time

this class is going to be a case study of “does staying in school 6 years make you a better NFLQB”

Maybe the Buckeyes should try to get Michigan’s entire coaching staff fired before the game next time.

Sure, but it’s not like the Chiefs played a masterful game of defense in that one lol

I would have rather won the Miami game 31- 17, which it would've probably been without all the offensive TO's. It's funny how close our breakdowns were for the most part. What bothers me the most is the Bills and Chiefs had similar conclusions after 2021. Let's stand pat or take a step back on offense and bulk up defense and OL. They stayed healthy and won a Superbowl. We suffered catastrophic franchise altering injuries and took a major step back. In regards to the overall offense vs defense debate in the NFL, consider these stats. Josh Allen's playoff record when the defense allows 24+ points: 2-3 Patrick Mahomes' playoff record when the defense allows 24+ points: 5-3 And maybe the question shouldn't be, how do we prevent shootouts, but how do we win shootouts?

Tua sucks. You won’t hear me argue that. He benefits from great offensive coaching and world class offensive talented and is “good enough” to make it run. Allen would be a great QB on just about any team. Tua would be mediocre on most.

Great block. Player of the game though?

Okay, I'll play this game. Texans - 19 13 points in the first half is good by NFL standards. 0 points allowed in the first half is nearly perfect. Here are the drives second half (with a 13 -0 lead) Texans - 3 and out Bills - 4 and out Texans - fumble forced by Bills D Bills - start at Texans 38, gain 18 yards, FG Texans - TD Bills - fumble Texans - FG (started at the 50) Bills - 3 and out Texans - TD Bills - TO on downs on our own 39 Texans - TO on downs on OUR 30 with over a minute left Bills - FG OT Texans - 3 and out Bills - 9 play, 13 yard drive (lmao yeah) - punt Texans - FG to win. so no. Both sides didn't suck in the second half. The Bills defense forced two TO's in the second half, held the Texans to 3 pts and 0 pts when the Bills fumbled or turned it over on downs on our own side of the field. The offense didn't generate a single TD in the second half. They had one scoring drive in the second half that wasn't gifted to them by the defense. The defense gave them chance after chance, even forcing a 3 and out in OT and the Bills O could do nothing. 7 second half/OT drives and 6 points (3 off a forced fumbled in FG range already) is HORRIBLE. This was a game Josh and the offense puked away. And that was pretty accepted until this "the defense fails Josh" narrative emerged. Colts - 2020 I think the offense outperformed the defense in this game but I didn't think the defense was really bad. So I'll give this to you. Ravens - 2020 D>O, everyone agrees. Chiefs -2020 Bills O starts out 9-0 with 6 min to go in the 1st Q. Amazing start. They go to sleep for awhile while the defense gets pummeled. Everyone knows you can't beat the Chiefs with FG's. The Bills try anyway. 4th Q rolls around, the Bills have scored 6 points since 6 min in the 1st and the Chiefs have scored 31. Woof. But 31-15, score a TD and you're still alive. Josh throws a pick. Chiefs score on short field. Josh scores to make it look more respectable at 4 min to go in the 4th. Ball game. I don't agree with your analysis in comparing in to the regular season game and how they performed that year. Both units sucked. Offense went to sleep with a 9 point lead against a team that averaged 29.6 PPG. Defense couldn't stop them after the 1st Q. An average day at the office for the Chiefs + Allen's garbage time points still wouldn't have been enough. Didn't matter because they defense let them get WAY above average. 2021 Pats Chiefs Agree on both, D was fine vs the Pats and 13 seconds was horrific. 2022 Dolphins Woo boy. The Bills offense put up 31. 24 points by Skylar Thompson. Looks good on paper from an O v D matchup. But here's a fun stat. PFR does an expected points summary. Kinda nifty Offense Tot -- Total offensive expected points (rushing + passing + penalties) Pass -- Expected points contributed by passing offense Rush -- Expected points contributed by rushing offense TOvr -- Expected points contributed by turnovers on offense The offenses' total was -2.41. That's how costly the TO's were. Dolphins had 16 FD's, and were 4-16 on third down with 2 TO's. That's a recipe for a win going away. Of course, the offense repaid this pretty good defensive performance (against a backup QB) with 4 TO's. We ultimately won because Josh had the best worst game in Bills history. But let's look at the drives. 2nd Q 17-3 with 7 min in the second Q. Man this Game is over, right? Bills - Josh Allen pick, ball in Bills territoy Dolphins - FG Bills - 3 and out, punt returned 50 yards Dolphins - FG, drive started at Bills 27 Okay at this point, there's a minute left in the half. It's 17-9, let's just get to half and grind this out! Bills - Josh Allen pick, PSYCHE Dolphins - drive started at Bills 18 yard line, TD +2 pt. 17-17 just like that thanks to Josh and the offense. Then, with 30 seconds left, Bills get FG so 20-17 at half. A game that was over is now a dogfight. To start the third Q now Dolphins - 3 and out Bills - Josh Allen fumble TD Bills- punt Dolphins - 3 and out Bills - 3 and out Dolphins - INT Bills - TD, drive started on Miami 33. Dolphins - punt Bills - TD Dolphins - TD Bills- 3 and out Dolphins - 3 and out Bills - punt Dolphins - TOD Bills - victory formation So no. This was not a wash. The defense allowed 2 FG's and a TD on drives that started on their own 48, 27 and 17 yard line. They forced 2 TO's of their own. Josh has 1 less TO and a game that went to the wire wouldn't have been close. 2022 Bengals - team loss So, IMO, games where the O didn't hold up their end of the bargain (i.e play a good enough game to their standard, not excellent) was the 2020 Chiefs, Ravens, Dolphins, Bengals and Texans. Games where the defense didn't hold up their end of the bargain was 2020 Chiefs, 2021 Chiefs, Bengals and arguably the Colts. Games where one side played near perfect and the other didn't come close? Ravens and 2021 Chiefs. IMO. Damn that was a lot of work. I got an A in stats at one point, I swear.

Lying with a straight face is what all great coaches can do. Excellent sign.

That was my point lol

Holy smokes to the bolded. Mahomes took a terrible defense to the AFCCG, and barely lost in OT. Mahomes took a horrific OL and lost in the Super Bowl. Mahomes has a horrific group of pass catchers and is still running for #1 seed in the AFC. And you’re asking why can’t we also give Allen grace when he gets blown out in the divisional round with the #1 defense and Stef Diggs? Or when he is the 10th seed in the AFC with an average defense? Or when he gets blown out in the AFCCG? L OH ***** L Mahomes’ worst year, ever, in his career, would be the best in Allen’s.

Rodgers won 2 MVP’s with Hackett as OC.

I don’t think he’ll be fired if that’s what you’re asking. This is all Rodgers. He’s calling the shots with the GM IMO. Hackett and Boyle are his guys.

I don’t think it was Hackett’s call to start Boyle.

They do nothing. It’s coaching malpractice. If I’m Hackett, I call reverses, flea flickers HB passes, everything. What is the point of not even trying on offense?

Zach Wilson is inactive. I think Simian is active.

Who else is in this Zach Wilson truther coalition of yours and what else do you guys talk about?

Hahahahaha