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The OP was the person I was responding to who certainly seems to think there’s at least a remote possibility

I will continue to scoff. Multiple receivers have gotten paid this offseason. Multiple others are still waiting. Last month, 35 more were drafted — including nine in the first 34 selections. As more and more competent receivers enter the NFL via the low-cost rookie wage scale, it's fair to wonder if/when more and more teams will decline to pay a receiver and look for a replacement instead in the draft. First of all, huh? By this logic, QB's are going the way of running back. After all, 6 went in the top 12. Hell, 36 CB's were drafted this year. Is CB going the way of the running back? Two years ago, three teams did it. The Titans traded A.J. Brown, the Packers traded receiver Davante Adams, the Chiefs traded Tyreek Hill. (Tennessee used the first-round pick it got for Brown on his replacement, Treylon Burks. The Packers opted for quantity, drafting Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, and Samari Toure. And the Chiefs went with a low-cost committee approach that has helped deliver every Lombardi Trophy awarded since Hill was traded.) Ah, yes. We all know how well the Titans' trading of AJ Brown has worked out for them. Packers trading Davante of course was the last straw to losing their HoF QB. And the Chiefs' decision worked I guess, but who knows if they don't win 2 SB's with Hill? The reason why this premise is so silly is because there's an apparent lack of understanding of WHY the running back market is the way it is: #1 - Less elite athletes are running backs now than ever before because its the crappiest skill position to play (this is not happening to WR's, its the opposite) #2 - Because less elite athletes are running backs, the delta between a solid RB and a great RB has never been smaller (this is not happening to WR's, its the opposite) #3 - The shelf life for an RB has never been lower, which makes them poor DRAFT investments (this is not happening to WR's, its the opposite) Seriously. This is like Titans fans saying, "Maybe our team is on to something investing garbage at the QB position, they aren't paying franchise QB money, they are ahead of the curve!" Your favorite teams' crappy decisions aren't some super secret masterful strategy. They are just crappy decisions.

Player: TJ Graham i don’t care about Graham over Wilson. Sure it sucked, but QB’s are notoriously hard to scout. But Graham over Hilton hurt my brain. Hilton had two THOUSAND more receiving yards in his college career Sure, he played at FIU but if they were looking for a speedy WR to add another element on offense, I couldn’t believe they picked the dude who was a return man who couldn’t catch and couldn’t play WR. Coach: REXIT. this one is easy. One of the worst Bills coaches of the drought. He should’ve been fired in 2015 before the season ended. Once they gave him 2016, he was a lame duck. Ofc, they wasted a draft trying to get his dudes who all sucked. Lol. The meme of Trent Edwards being ruined by that concussion is so funny. There are certain inaccurate things that just get passed down in franchise lore.

I don’t even know how to respond to this. Here’s a topic I made in November. Josh Allen was smack dab in the middle from a TD/TO ratio below Dak Prescott and above Ryan Tannehill. It’s not nit-picking. He turns it over too much.

Um, there are like 100 page topics about how he doesn’t throw more picks than Brett Favre

Sure, but the rate of holding, roughing the punter, blocks in the back, muffed punts is all much much much higher than any negative things happening after an interception. All I know is TBD’s definitely starting acting like TO’s don’t matter when they got a QB who turns it over a ton.

We all know Josh turns it over quite a bit. The arm punt excuse was always silly. You could always go for it on 4th and inches, or get a defensive penalty on the punt etc etc. Giving the ball away is never a good thing.

Answering a question with a question lol

Singletary doesn’t even play for Texans. Y’all are not beating the allegations this offseason

Fair enough. Did you think those other names were “little else?”

Top 5 in the AFC is not that impressive lol. Basically Orlovsky is saying that by the divisional round, we will likely have the worst weapons of the remaining teams. Cool bar I guess? When we had “one stud and little else,” do you mean when we had Gabe Davis, Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid and James Cook?

How many Bills players have skipped OTAs that have been traded twice in their prime as stars for being a malcontent?

Centers are the running backs of offensive line. Rightly or wrongly, that is how the league has judged them. That being said, if SVPG is a starter for even 3 years here, it’s tremendous value. Probably my favorite pick of the draft.

Right now there are a group of Texans fans with podcasts furiously explaining why this doesn’t matter.

They are 15-1 in the postseason against teams not manned by the GOAT QB of all time. it’s not just us man.

This is a complete misrepresentation of these player's values. Stefon Diggs was the 11th highest paid WR in 2019. He was traded for a first round and 4th round pick (with a discount because he was being his normal locker room cancer self). Of course, Diggs had just posted back to back 1000+ yard seasons. Brown and Beasley were the 24th and 29th highest paid WR's in football in 2019. Of the UFA WR's signed in FA that year, they were the 3rd and 5th highest paid WR's. FWIW, Curtis Samuel signed the fifth highest FA contract this year. Claypool doesn't appear on the list (lol). Samuel is the 31st highest paid WR in the NFL currently. And they added on a 4th round pick in Gabe Davis in 2020. Do they? Shakir is promising. Coleman is a second round pick, is he gonna be a legit top 30-40 WR right off the bus? Samuel and Kincaid are definitely NFL starters. Claypool is a lotto ticket and a bad one. He's on his 4th team in 3 years. The teams that spent a second round pick gave up on him, twice. How many of those players recover their careers ever? You say this, but literally the best year of Allen's career came when he had a great player that got the lion's share of targets and ALSO had a stable of other good receiving options. That was also coincidentally the farthest the Bills got in the playoffs. So what is the evidence for this? Besides "it's what the Bills are doing so let's hope for the best?"

This how you know they are teenagers. No Mularkey? No Perry Fewell? For shame.

I’m gonna sound like an old man but I love the chain. I think they already have a microchip in it, just keep doing that.

It’s hard for me to take a back seat on the discussion on WR’s. 2 years ago, I was worried about the depth of Jake Kumerow as our backup outside WR. I posted about addressing the position more. It ultimately didn’t matter because no outside WR was saving us in the Bengals game. So fine. Last year, I was worried about the depth of Trent Sherfield as our backup outside WR. I posted about addressing the position more (and to be fair to Brandon Beane, I think they did miss out on the run of WR’s and Addison may be a Bill today if he was within striking distance). This came to pass when we had Trent whiffing in the postseason. And imo, we are there again. 3 years running. All I know is that Josh Allen had his best year of his career when he had one star receiving option and 3 other legit NFL starters as receiving options. That group was able to ride out one of those receivers getting injured and missing part of the year in large part because they had quality players waiting in the wings. He has never been farther from that level of talent than he is right now. Jmo.

The reason NBA players can play in the NFL is because there are enough players with the size and ability that fits some position profiles in the NFL. The converse is not true. The OL guys are too short. The tall guys aren’t athletic enough. There are probably some exceptions but this is mostly true

It depends on how well the guys around him do. If everyone is a 600-800 yard guy and they get smoked in the playoffs because the guys can’t get open vs man, I’ll probably still call them JAGS. If a dude like Shakir drops a 1200 yard season on good efficiency, I’ll probably agree he’s a pretty good weapon.

I think there’s gonna be a lot of premature grave-dancing, just like there was with Kenny. Kenny started out with that blistering performance v the Rams and then later the league figured him out. The real test for Brady will be in the dog days of December and into 2025, not week 1 imo.

It’s not significant. So it’s basically the same as everyone else with great QB’s. So yeah, it’s a silly point. What do you expect? McD isn’t a HoF coach. Did you expect 6 titles by now? It’s pretty well-known that great QB + good coach is a recipe for playoffs every season. Great QB plus bad coach is how you get the Chargers. Sean Payton, a HoF coach, paired with prime Drew Brees, a HoF QB, missed the playoffs 3 straight years. Had multiple playoff choke jobs. You think TBD is a bunch of beaten dogs, I think you guys have really unrealistic expectations. We have the second best QB in the league paired with a top 10 HC. That doesn’t mean we are gonna be a dynasty. It’s the same people who bought the “win now and win in the future” garbage that Beane spewed. We were never gonna be the next Pats. That’s hard to hear but it’s the truth. It’s just not us. We are closer to the Steelers or Colts of that era. Peyton Manning didn’t win a Super Bowl til he was 30. I think we all agree there are some problem performances. some of us think it’s more the players and failed/disappointing investments on defense. Some of us think it’s the more the coaching. I think we also agree at a certain point of beating your head against a wall, sometimes you have to make a change. we just don’t agree on the why and the when lol

He might be! What if he’s one of those coaches that had to fail for a large part of his career and then turns it around and becomes a winner and a HoFer? What’s the standard deviation of wins? In a 16-17 game schedule, the difference between 74% and 72% is non-significant.

None of this has anything to do with what I said. He would still have broken the drought. Not to mention, this QBR “analysis” is terrible lol. Sorry.