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The only other info injury I saw about him was an ankle tweak that cost him a couple games back in his 2nd year. As for how the Panthers may have used him, I just don't get it. It simply doesn't reconcile with what we saw this year. He was absolutely dominant out there for nearly the entire season. Him and Dawkins both had a rough day on the same week (vs the Chargers I think?) but outside of that he was just stoning guys week after week after week. I'd be curious to see the Bills internal OLine grades cuz I don't think it would be difficult to make a case that he was the Bills best OLineman this season. When you've got a talent like Josh Allen who's going to be your franchise for the next decade, letting your best OLineman walk right now would be criminal, imo.

I think a lot of us saw a long run of professional competency coming. But nobody saw this coming.

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He missed one season with the knee injury. That was the only time in the last 4 years he hasn't played a full 16 games. You want to protect that franchise QB, I think locking in Daryl Williams is priority #1 this offseason.

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Yeah, that's pretty much the only reason I don't feel any compulsion to bring him back here. He's not ever going to have the natural chops to manage a game as a head coach, but I'd never be unhappy with him calling my offense. The folks ragging on him either don't understand those are two separate jobs or have even worse issues with short-term memory than I do.

I don't feel any strong impulse to bring him back but to his credit, he was outstanding here when he was thrust into the role of offensive coordinator. He was innovative, aggressive and somehow managed to put together what I think was a Top 10 scoring offense with Tyrod freaking Taylor as his QB. He won't end up back here, but wherever he does end up, somebody is going to be getting a very good offensive coach.

He probably says it every other time he walks on the field.

So your response is to start trying to trash the Colts thread with your complaints? Knock it off.

That's probably exactly what it was. The Bills are just trying to get out healthy at that point and probably didn't appreciate the Phish stopping the clock and creating extra meaningless snaps. I've got no problem with a shot across Flores' bow there.

So you don't want to retract your claim or clarify in the original post that you're just guessing?

I hope you're right. Because in this forum when people present false information as fact, it usually does not end well for them.

I've always undervalued corners because it's soooo hard to make a legitimate impact on the game from the defensive boundary. But the years-long effort by the Powers That Be to turn this into the Arena Football League have really got me questioning that maxim. I thought our inarguable #1 need going into the offseason was to get some help up front for Ed Oliver but I'm now having second thoughts about that. With Josh Norman continuing to show he'll never mature beyond being an unreliable knucklehead, Taron Johnson inability to stick to anybody and Levi Wallace's ongoing efforts to become the most technically unsound corner to ever wear a Bills uniform, I'm wondering if we'd be better served to rebuild the platoon of CBs. Right now I don't trust anybody but Tre White and the young gamer from Pitt, and that is a tenuous position in a league where seemingly anybody can throw it all over the field without fear of reperconcussions.

I get that and it's a fair point. I actually am a big fan of physical corners who push the envelope on contact. But this guy does is at stupid times and stupid ways and is just as likely to take a DPI or Personal Foul as he is to make a play on the ball. I have been Levi Wallace's biggest detractor and I still hope Josh Norman is glued to the bench for the rest of the season.

Do none of you remember his first year in Washington, last game of the season when they needed to win in Week 17 to get in? Josh Norman took two selfish, idiotic dead-ball personal fouls that hurt his team badly in a game where they lost and were eliminated. I don't want that immature dipstick anywhere near the field next week.

Communist!

He probably says it four times a game.

And every week corners get called for it. For several years now. Will you appreciate Norman's "passion" when it costs us a TD or 15 yards and a change of possession in an elimination game? You enjoy your marshmallow today. I'm thinking about two marshmallows next week.

They'll still call it on the waist if you hook your hand all the way around or if it looks at all like you turned a guy. You just don't do it anymore, especially when you're already in position.

He grabbed the receivers arm yet again despite being called for it 5 minutes earlier. Then he jumped up and started yapping in the guys face to the point where most officials would have called it taunting and another Miami first down. How you going to feel when he pulls something like that in the 4th qrtr of a one score playoff game?

They've been calling that off arm wraparound for at least 4 years now. It was absolutely a penalty. The worst part was that he read the route, was in perfect postion and didn't have to do it. It was just dumb.

Two incredibly dumb things on 4th down today led to one conversion(and TD) and another that probably should have resulted in a Miami 1st down. If he is going to be that irretrievably stupid, I don't want him anywhere near the field in a playoff game. This is a really good football team and I'd hate to see it sabotaged by the idiocy of one guy at a big moment in a tight game.

That is not true

Browns win

Browns 3rd and 1 to win game