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It's almost comical how they paint anyone who wants a metered approach to be pro wasteful spending.

As usual the truth is somewhere between what both parties are selling you. The rotting crops, unpaid farmers, and starving people are empirical evidence that the gasoline and match approach wasn't wise.

LOL. Wait until you see what was going on with the REAL money. The corruption at the Pentagon and foreign aid makes that look like nothing. USAID's budget is $40B. Peanuts! The real question is, why do we keep funneling hundreds of billions more into this black hole: The Pentagon, which houses the United States Department of Defense (DoD), failed its financial audit again, marking the seventh consecutive year of such failure. This latest audit revealed that the DoD could not account for 60% of its $4.1 trillion in assets. This amounts to a staggering $2.46 trillion that remains unaccounted for. The DoD’s inability to track such a vast sum of money underscores significant financial mismanagement within the department. The failed audits themselves cost $175M. That's A LOT of drag shows.

Musk is trumps play toy. I have no idea how anyone thinks Elon's above him. I think it ends badly for Musk.

Elon's green grift is over(hopefully). Just reminding his fans about what they had forgotten. When he saves us double what he took, then we can discuss forgiveness. Officials are "immediately suspending" approval for all state plans funded by the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program, a $5 billion initiative to build a network of EV chargers across the US, according to a memo to state transport directors released on Thursday. The memo said leaders at the Transportation Department had "decided to review the policies underlying" the implementation of the NEVI program, with updated draft guidance due to be published this spring. Until then, "no new obligations may occur" under the NEVI program, a move which puts plans to build EV chargers across multiple states announced late last year into limbo. With the scarcity of EV chargers still one of the main concerns putting people off buying electric vehicles, the dismantling of the program will likely be a major blow for EV adoption in the US — and for Tesla, which has been one of NEVI's biggest beneficiaries.

This time trickle-down is going to work, I promise: President Donald Trump’s tax cut wish list would cost would the federal government between $5 trillion and $11.2 trillion in lost revenue over the next decade, according to a new analysis from a budget watchdog group.

Not at all. The argument that Elon should have grifted an incompetent govt, because he could, isn't one I'm willing to hear. Do you think Telsa is a company that will have long-term success? Success that the government should have invested in if global warming is a hoax, and that it should be building chargers on a grid, that can't handle it?

Who do you blame? Only the people who granted it, or them AND the guy who profited from it?

I didn't say any were, but most people agree that subsidizing electric cars for global warming, and chargers for a grid that can't handle it were. Only fanbois would disagree.

They'll twist some stupid little thing. Why use a knife for surgery, when you can just pour gasoline?

So it was the journalists who destroyed him, not his own racist commentary. Gotcha.

Contracts are better than grants/subsidies, but are also bad when built on lies.

When are we going to get to work on the Pentagon, where the REAL waste/corruption is. When I was a kid they had already uncovered that a $3 screwdriver costs $800. Has "Mike" been ranting about that??? What about $400 bandages at the ER?

Yes. Most of this "corruption" is going to be what was legally distributed funds. You think all $35 trillion was taken illegally? Almost all of it was grifted.

THIS is where the real corruption is. MIC and Pentagon, but instead we're cutting $47k drag shows. Absolute trash deal for Ukraine, who can de-mobilize just in time for Russia to take the rest easily. Art of the Deal.

Literally reaching at paper straws.

Benefit is a good word to use for that comparison. Who benefitted? Let's take this a step further. I remember when the EV haters claim was that the "grid can't handle EV's". Well, that didn't stop the global warming grift from going an even further unrealistic step did it: To help solve the issue, Tesla will be eligible for government subsidies to manufacture charging stations that can charge both NACS and CCS vehicles. The White House has yet to confirm the specifics of spending the $7.5 billion in Bipartisan Infrastructure Law money allocated to EV charging investment I claimed supporters, and lying about things is utter HS. Right now 1 million people are cold, but can I prove it??? No, but it's as real as Nazi support was in the 30's here in America. Seeing you've forgotten some evidence I gave you then, here it is again: The America First Committee (AFC) was an American isolationist pressure group against the United States' entry into World War II.[1][2] Launched in September 1940, it surpassed 800,000 members in 450 chapters at its peak.[3] The AFC principally supported isolationism for its own sake, and its varied coalition included Republicans, Democrats, farmers, industrialists, communists, anti-communists, students, and journalists – however, it was controversial for the anti-Semitic and pro-fascist views of some of its most prominent speakers, leaders, and members.[4][5][6][7] The AFC was dissolved on December 11, 1941, four days after the attack on Pearl Harbor brought the United States into the war. The AFC argued that no foreign power could successfully attack a strongly defended United States, that a British defeat by Nazi Germany would not imperil American national security, and that giving military aid to Britain would risk dragging the United States into the war. The group fervently opposed measures for the British advanced by President Franklin D. Roosevelt such as the destroyers-for-bases deal and the Lend-Lease bill, but failed in its efforts to block them. No deflection is a bad deflection, though.

I showed you that there was widespread support for Nazi's, and there was. It's not my fault you have no historical understanding of the 'America First' movement. Try reading more. Anyways, that deflection carries no weight in this debate.

I'm all for cutting costs, but this is a show pony.

So is anyone going to provide anything to support that Elon didn't grift billions of dollars, or just stick to ad hominem? Elon was on the verge of bankruptcy. until he grifted the government. He's openly stated this.

Is that your best attempt to deflect? There were at least a million nazi supporters/simps. We're discussing Elon's grift right now. Biden helped him.

My bias? I'm not supporting a known government grifter.

Giving grants, based on lies, is corruption. Corruption is stealing. This is government market manipulation(also corruption): The tax credit was restored in 2023 as part of the Biden administration’s Inflation Reduction Act. But Musk has encouraged the incoming Trump administration to end the $7,500 tax credit, which would seem to be against Tesla’s interests but would be a blow for established automakers seeking to get a share of the US EV market. Those legacy automakers would have to accept bigger losses on their EV sales or pull back on offerings, which would reduce competition for Tesla. “Take away the subsidies, it will only help Tesla,” Musk posted on his social media platform X in July. Any references to "derangement syndrome" will denote a losing argument. It's actually fact derangement syndrome.

Exactly.

Tesla/global warming. You can do your own research.