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I’ve said it time and time again that I love Beane but no one can deny he has a “thing” for defensive players in the first round. Maybe you should make snarky remarks to the tens of other posters in this thread that have bashed Beane instead of singling me out.

Hyatt compares more favorably to Jameson Williams due to size and speed.

Actually…KC is number 2 “right now”…

Agree. My draft crush is Johnston even though there is no way he falls to us. Beane will probably take the third safety off the board anyways.

Hahahaha!!!! “No one cares about the kicker”. Are you the high school football player that thinks “he’s still got it” and was always led to believe kickers “aren’t football players”? Bass has been ST player of the week and month on several occasions and directly can affect the outcome of a game on one play. In this case, he’s won 3 games this season with his leg. Sorry if that upsets your ego. And since we are talking about players off the street, what about Kingsley Jonathan who showed more last week than “Boogie”? I’ll wait…

I agree on these points but again you are belittling the value of Bass. He’s a huge part of this team even if he’s “just a kicker”.

Are you really criticizing him for listing Bass? He’s a really good kicker and has won 3 games this year. Darn near automatic with extra points. Don’t subscribe to the narrative that kickers aren’t players, cause good ones can be game changers. Think before you post…

Roquan smith is “meh”? Really? That dude is legit.

Yeah it’s maddening watching Davis catch the ball. His hand placement is terrible. It wasn’t an issue before this year though. As for knox…I don’t think it was planned for him to be used like this. I think the short-comings of the oline have forced them to use him this way. Beane will make it right this off-season and knox will be used the way they envisioned next season.

How is Creed over Rousseau relevant to anything? Davis isn’t awful. Not even close. Is he a little disappointing? Perhaps. But he’s not awful. I will say that I think many got a little greedy after the game he had against the chiefs last year, but that hasn’t been sustained this year. But he’s nowhere near awful like you say. Knox has been asked to block more this year to help mask a disappointing oline. That’s on Beane IMO. He definitively misjudged the line and I expect him to make it right this off-season and allow knox to be more of a playmaker like he was last year.

Yeah I definitely see value in bringing Davis back. I think their hand is somewhat forced after largely ignoring the WR position for a few years. If they had a viable option behind Davis I’d say get something for him, because I don’t think they will pay both him and Diggs. I just really hope they go all out in fortifying the WR room this off-season.

This is kind of where I’m at with Oliver. He had really good games against the Lions and Bears. The Lions were without both starting guards and the Bears oline is just horrific. I’m happy about the performances, but it hardly inspires a ton of sustained confidence

I think they would like to keep Oliver, but if we pay edmunds, we are starting to really deep dive into some big extensions on both sides of the ball. We can’t pay everyone. Someone is going to get left out. My guess is Oliver and Davis aren’t in the long-term plans. Take Cinci…DJ Reader is totally disruptive and he was taken in the fifth round. I think you can find someone like that to replace Oliver later on. Heck…I think DaQuan Jones was a 4th rounder. As for Davis…I’m fine with trading him, but I can also see value in keeping him. I don’t think a first round rookie WR would be completely ready to be handed the job, and competing with Davis for a year could make for a great situation for us.

Yeah…and knowing Beane, he’d flip that pick into another DT selection. He just can’t help himself. Hopefully, if that’s the case, it’s after we spend a first on an offensive weapon for our franchise qb.

Bernard ticked me off…bad. So did Basham. I’ll give you Humphrey though. Maybe they didn’t think he could pay G. Don’t know. But…we also could have had Dylan Parham instead of Bernard. Same thing…he went a pick later. Joe Marino was pumping him all pre-draft as a guy who had elite athleticism who could come in and play guard for a few years and be your rotational C. The Bernard pick just doesn’t make any sense.

I disagree. If anything, the Bills bet on traits just as much as any team. Allen is a massive, strong qb. Edmunds is an alien at middle LB. Bass has one of the biggest legs in the league. Rousseau…which you mentioned, is a monster. Spencer Brown and Tommy Doyle are massive prospects. Heck, even Tre has a crazy wingspan. I’ll give you Oliver and Bernard. Still think Oliver has been good, but my goodness was Bernard a horrible pick to this point. We needed oline depth and we took an undersized LB that nobody heard of. Terrible pick. Well I hate to tell you, but Edmunds is 100% an impact guy. Not even debatable. Did you notice how open the middle was in his absence this year? Quit playing to the board narrative and be more open to the truth.

We can agree to disagree because I see it differently.

Well I disagree. In my opinion it’s Morse, but for you to say “it’s not even close” is completely wrong. If it really isn’t Morse then it’s a toss up.

Where did I say anything about anti-Beane? Nowhere. You made that up. My point is that he’s pumped a ton of resources into the defensive line and has mostly patched together an oline. Protecting Allen is the top priority. I’d hardly call that “insane”.

Humphrey is a pro bowl center. You really wanna say this? Who is the best and most important piece on our line? Morse. Humphrey could have been a very good guard for a few years and then stepped in and have been our pro bowl center instead of our biggest super bowl obstacle. I’d take that over Basham 100 times out of 100.

Beane. He’s on record saying that he will always look at adding the defensive line. It’s a troubling stance cause I really don’t have a lot of faith they will look to add to the offense much this year.

Hated the Basham pick then and hate it now. Beanes philosophy about “always adding to the defensive line” has come at a cost to other positions and it’s starting to catch up.

Again…look at how slowly the bills bring their rookies along.

If you can’t recognize WR as a need after this season then I think you just don’t want to see it.

Maybe not, but that hasn’t stopped Beane from trying to do that with DEs.