Ethan in Cleveland

1984-1985 was rough. How could you have any interest in Joe Dufek and Vince Ferragamo? All this while Kelly was in Houston. Those were the two darkest years in franchise history.

Outside of QB, Oline has to be the hardest to evaluate. The college game OL play is nothing like the NFL. Its all 2 point stances and spread offenses. Some physical traits are needed to play OT like wing span and foot movement. Outside of that its all player development.

On paper. But their moves look good Yeah but he got much better as the season went along. First month he was really struggling. Hope he hits the ground proverbial running this year.

Nobody woukd put Odunze and Jr in the same class as Coleman at this point. That may change. Like others have said, make Coleman go watch Anquan Boldin video. If Coleman is a low tier #1 WR that is plenty good enough for this offense. I still have hope for Kincaid but my favorite player besides Allen is Knox. I hope Knox still gets plenty of chances. Kelce is in decline. Cook is the best skill player on both those teams. By year's end Kincaid will probably produce more than Kelce. Shakir is probably a better #3 WR than the Chiefs but their 1,2,4, and 5 are probably better than the Bills.

Uh oh Bill Barnwell just called the Bills WR group the worst in the NFL. Beane is going to have another explosion. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45679684/ranking-nfl-teams-wr-te-rb-groups-2025-season-best-players-playmakers-offense

A bit?? Its crushing!! And its not revisionist history either. We were all screaming for him in real time during the draft. He's the second best player on the team in my opinion. Guys like Brown, Benford, Dawkins, Shakir and Rousseau are in that conversation as well.

Thank you. Thurman could pass block but he was devastating as a receiver. Cook will learn to block but as you said let him release as a safety valve. Josh will find the open guy and beat the blitz far more often than not.

Too high for Tua. He's no longer top 100 if he ever was. Seems a bit low for Cook. He's a top 4 RB in the league. I'd say somewhere in the 55-70 range would be more accurate. Brown is a top 3 RT. Dawkins played well last year as well. Will be interesting to see where they land. Benford is not a lock down man to man corner but he is very good. i think these ranking favor the guys who play in more man to man systems. Wil be interested to see if Taron Johnson makes it. At one point he was top 2 nickel in the league. I think his play has fallen off a bit the last two years, but still very good.

Bills got younger on the DL. They should be better. They have major question marks in the defensive backfield at CB#2 and both safeties, but they have options there. WR group has a few question marks as well. This whole off-season may have had a different vibe if Andrews catches that 2 pt conversion. Same goes for if Kincaid doesn't drop that final pass.

R u saying he acted out when with the Bills? There were no reports or even whispers about that. Of course we don't hear everything. But I think it is accurate he started on the bottom of the roster and was getting more and more reps.

Im embarrassed to learn that Moulds was traded. I missed that entirely. I had no idea he was with Texans and then the Titans for final two years of career.

100% agree!

Reed was great but I'd have to go with Slater. Slater is an all time great OT.

What about Chuck?

So by your logic, OJ should not have been allowed to be sued by Ronald Goldman's parents?