Ethan in Cleveland
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I have no issue with them drafting an edge if all the WR with a first round grade are gone, but Kneeland wasn't even first team in the MAC. No freaking way.
If they don't get a star WR in the first round, then I would prefer they go volume in the second and take two WRs.
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1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:
In this mock Nabers is still around for the Raiders pick at 13 - that would have to be tempting for Beane. Might be in the possible trade range for a premier WR1.
Nabers at 13 is worth giving up 2025 #1
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OMG I would love to see the board explode if this went down.
https://www.nfl.com/news/seven-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-round-4
Small school edge in round 1 who had 4.5 sacks in the MAC, while Cinci and KC both add WRs, Miami adds an OT, and Colts add a generational TE.
Blocking WR and Robert Woods clone in round 2 and passing on Franklin
Then DT and S
No trades up or down
Standing pat and taking another smurf blocking WR and 3 defenders with the top four picks.... oh this place would melt down
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Well done. Excellent analysis.
One question, do you think McCarthy is a top 5 QB talent? Or are you just saying he will get picked there as an extreme over reach. This guy averaged 22 passes pee game in college. He is a game manager with good accuracy. Ok but not elite size. Ok but not very good speed. Decent arm.
Just curious if you think he is a top 5 talent?
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I thought they were until they traded Diggs.
Poyer and Hyde were not difference makers last year. I have no concerns moving on from them. Milano will be back. Getting DQ to return and perhaps a resurgent Miller should be enough on defense. Rousseau is in a contract year so he is going to ball out. Douglas was playing at a level even better than White before his ACL. He is a steal and I still have hopes for Elam.
My concern is the offense. Yeah Diggs play fell off quite a bit but he still caught over a 100 balls. They have no one that can get deep now. Teams can sit on short zones with a single high safety and there will be little place to go with the ball. Unless you play a team like Dallas that can't stop the run they will really struggle. Kincaid needs to continue to develop but I don't see him in year 2 being Kelce and being able to carry the offense.
All that can change in ten days. I don't believe a word Beane says. He lies and twists the truth at every PC. There is no way he thinks they can win with this group of WR. If he really does then we are truly screwed. But I believe he will draft not one but two WR. No way he doesn't get Allen more weapons.
As always our rate limiting step will be coaching....
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No matter how the McDermott apologists want to spin it, the playoff failures have almost entirely been poor defensive play. Texans and all KC games the defense choked or never even showed up to play. Credit the D for the Ravens win no doubt about that. Colts win was even worse coaching by Reich. Nobody showed for the Bengals.
Allen and the offense has carried McDermott.
Hope he proves me wrong, but if they don't make the SuperBowl this year McDermott has to go!
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On 4/17/2024 at 1:15 PM, papazoid said:
show me an elite level head coach who did it without an elite level QB
don't bother looking
the hoodie should have swallowed his pride and rode brady til his arm fell off. the bigger mistake was thinking you could do it without replacing him with an elite level QB.....thats where his arrogance cost em
Coughlin won two SuperBowls with the lesser Manning who was a great playoff QB but far from elite.
Harbaugh took Kaepernick to a NFC Championship and SuperBowl
Doug Pederson won a SuperBowl with a scrap heap QB
I'd take both of them over McDermott
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On 4/18/2024 at 2:19 PM, Virgil said:
Unless you know you are going in the first 3 rounds, I think this is smart for the players. They get paid, their education, and learn more about their NFL skillset and see if they would improve their stock. Worst case scenario, they get their full degree, get paid, and won't be in trouble financially if they don't get drafted
Excellent points. My guess is most of these guys are marginal NFL talents. Like you said they get paid, they get health care, and they graduate. All good things.
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Drafting two WR with first three picks is perfectly fine with me. Or using one of the picks to aquire a guy in a trade is fine as well.
Get an edge with the other pick and a safety early on day 3.
I'd be fine if they traded multiple day 3 picks to get back into the third round.
There is probably only 4-5 roster spots up for grabs at this point. 6 if you add another punter. 2 WR, Edge, S, CB and P. You can trade all the other picks away becuase they either aren't making the team or you can find a LB or CB in UDFA to play Teams.
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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
To me it seems like Beane isn’t his normal self this offseason. Seems a little down.
He knows his fate is hitched to McDermott and can't do anything about it.
This is going to get a very interesting season.
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20 hours ago, Charles Romes said:
Frank Lewis first rounder never caught on with the Steelers. Ended up playing 13 seasons, nearly 7000 yards in a running era, two one thousand yard seasons with the Bills.
Excellent!
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28 minutes ago, SCBills said:
I'm honestly starting to really come around on the Green Bay method for our Offense. Especially with Kincaid set to take on a bigger role moving forward.
Still think we need two above average receivers added to this roster, but I'm not as sold that one of them needs to be a bona fide WR1.
Can you explain what the Green Bay Method is?
And if it is as ineffective as the rhythm method I want no part of it....
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What is the over/under on outright lies Beane told?
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I'd be ecstatic if they got Jefferson. Outside of that I'm fine with a couple rookies.
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Does Michael Vick's run with the Eagles count? Not really a bust with the Falcons, but did make a ProBowl with the Eagles, named comeback player of the year, and made the playoffs twice.
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The Wilson and Watson trades show that anything can happen.
Wilson was two firsts and two seconds
Watson three firsts and a second. Remember at the time Watson pre-sex charges was considered a top 5 QB.
The OP trade scenario is close. You would probably need to add another first round pick in 2026.
I would make that trade on three conditions.
First you fire McDermott.
Second you bring Brady in for one year.
Third you bring in Belichick.
Then you trade out of #1 to 3 or 4. Get another first round pick. Then draft Nabers or Harrison Jr, an OT at 9, and package #28 and one of those other picks to move up and take best pass rusher you can get.
Take a safety and another WR in round 2.
Trade up from 4th to 3rd round and get your RB#2.
In that scenario you have as good a chance at a SuperBowl as any team. Additionally you have more picks in the future. You then have a stocked young cheap offense that you can plug and play another veteran QB for 2025 if needed - say someone like Dak or Baker on a 2 year deal.
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On 4/16/2024 at 7:18 AM, Coach Tuesday said:
Great article from the Athletic. Basically says that teams routinely over-estimate their own ability to predict player performance and as a result overestimate the value of their own specific picks. Instead, they should maximize the number of lottery tickets they’re buying.
Thoughts?
I've been saying this for years.
We are lucky Allen was available when he was. You know if Cleveland or the Jets take Allen, Beane would have chose one of the other QBs that have been busts.
That said Harrison Jr and Nabers look as close to sure hits at the WR spot as any other.
Trade down is easy to say. You need a trade partner. And with a roster that had been stacked for years trading down didn't make a lot of sense because there was just not that many open roster spots.
However this year is a bit different with holes at WR x 2, safety, edge, dt, RB#2, and backup C. With a deep deep WR group and no 3rd round pick a trade out of the first round wouldn't be the worst decision.
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3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:
Loyal to the organization...novel thought these days.
What an interesting thing to say.
Poyer and White were loyal to the organization.
Apparently loyalty runs only one way in the NFL.
I will never feel bad for any player that tries to get maximum value when they can. If a player outplays his contract I support him asking for more money. I completely understand why any player would hate being tagged. Yes that one or two year contract money is great but the risk of injury and missing out on substantial guaranteed income is tremendous.
The NFL and NFLPA have done some nice things. Rookie wage scale works well to not overpay for guys that have a very good chance of being busts. Adding performance pay for rookies that outperform their contracts. A vet minimum salary that counts less against the cap. These are all good.
If I were the NFL and NFLPA I would let each team designate one QB that is outside the salary cap and you can pay them anything you want. Then you have a cap for all the other players. I would keep the roster at 53 with 10 person PS but let them dress any 53 they want on game day.
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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
Kinda effs up a lot of anti-returner/depth sentiments with actual results. But fans will always gripe against modest and under-the-radar FA signings.
What was modest about it?
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2 hours ago, Ayjent said:
It was all there if you watched the games. He played well against a couple of good WRs and teams fell in love with what he could be instead of what he was. Terrible tackler, inconsistent in coverage, capable of getting completely lost in scheme. I thought he was being overvalued a lot in pre draft and was absolutely shocked when Bills took him. I watch all UF games and I wasn’t a fan of his game. I had hope that maybe it was just Mullen’s terrible staff that was the issue and talked myself into the pick trusting Beane. He played decent in yr 1 at times, but the chance he develops is slim at this point. Maybe it was hubris with the Bills staff and FO. There just isn’t much of a place for him other than outside CB and the Bills don’t trust him there.
Yet in limited time he has two playoff INTs - one in 2022 and one in 2023. Benford zero. Douglas zero. How can a guy who can make plays not be taught zone coverage?????
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His only value is with the Bills.
It's still shocking that he had an ankle injury bad enough to warrant IR and the coaching staff didn't either know about it or just made him inactive. He was injured in preseason and never once on injury report - just made a game day inactive.
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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Geezus dude.When a team is up by 32 in the 3rd quarter, 2 missed calls shouldn’t be determining the game.
Are you 100% sure there wasn’t any missed calls on Houston? It did they play a perfectly flawless game?
What Reich did in the game outweighs those two missed calls. It had 1 million percent more influence on the game.
It was more than that too...He threw a pass that went right through the defenders hands and should have been another pick 6. Think it went to Metzalaars. And Houston not playing for an onside kick. Crazy stuff.
But I get your point, for one magical 28 minutes or so he was unbelievable! A HOF moment in an otherwise forgettable career.
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8 hours ago, amprov56 said:
You had to be there in 1993 or you 'll never understand, its a thing that only fans as old as the franchise can grasp!
I was in medical school watching the game on TV. Came so close to turning it off and going for a walk. I understand the love for the comeback game.
Don't understand the love for Reich. Heck more love should go to the refs for not seeing Beebe step out of bounds or Talley commit pass interference in OT.
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30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Red helmets are terrible sorry not sorry
They are terrible but for one game they would be awesome!!!
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Chad Reuter 7 round mock
in The Stadium Wall
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Agree this mock is as bad as the mock and real drafts of Mike Mayock.