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    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

    I think that's the right pick for the Jets long term. My #10 overall player. HOWEVER, he can only play LT IMO. So how does he get on the field this year if Tyron Smith is healthy? It seems odd to spend your first rounder in an all or nothing win or bust year for your GM, HC and QB on a guy who might not get on the field. 

    Honest question how can a LT not play RT? I see it the other way but makes no sense a LT can't play on the right side.

    Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Round 1 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)

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    2 minutes ago, Process said:

    I am so confused by this pick. What the heck are they doing. 

     

    Penix is about to turn 24. With that contract Kirk is guaranteed to the be their at least 2 years. 

     

    What a stupid franchise. 

     

     

    Absolutely stunningly stupid pick. 

    But honestly the contract for Cousins is an even worse decision. Probably the worst FA signing all year.

    Nice job Atlanta. They are screwed 

    It's here draft day.

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    Our best hope for today is there is a run on OT, a reach or two on QBs, and defensive needy teams like Falcons stay true and draft defense. 

    That pushes WR talent down and Beane can get a guy at 28. He probably will panic and jump up 8 spots or so and get Thomas or Worthy. That's his MO. 

    Broncos/Raiders Nix/Penix - I think this could be the play

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    17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

    On Chris Simms’s show, he had someone on saying that there is a huge divide between casual college football fans who tend to think some version of what you say here and actual NFL teams’ views on McCarthy. Simms pointed out that he’ll come in to the league with one of the strongest arms (he clocked 61 mph at the combine, which is truly elite). He also was by far and away the top rated passer in major college ball on 3rd/4th downs over the past two seasons, which is a key analytics stat for teams. They were a run-first team so he was never really asked to throw that much, but teams apparently think quite highly of him.

    Good let some team make a mistake on him. If he was that elite Harbaugh would have thrown the ball more. I'm going to guess many of those third down throws were manageable distances where there was still a threat of the run. That doesn't happen in the NFL. Anything longer than 3rd and 2 in the NFL and teams are throwing and the defense knows you are throwing it.

    Broncos/Raiders Nix/Penix - I think this could be the play

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    Arizona would be crazy not to trade down and let someone overpay for McCarthy.  They would get a very valuable asset in return and still get a top WR. Same may gor for Chargers. If they are ok with an OT they can drop a few spots say a swap with the Bears. Bears get a WR to go with Williams and Chargers still get an OT. 

    So much intrigue with all these QBs at the top. And I think at least one team will reach for another QB in the first round. 

    Broncos/Raiders Nix/Penix - I think this could be the play

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    If Nabors is still on the board at 12 or 13 I think this would be the move to make.

    It can happen if a few things occur. All 4 QBs are taken by pick 11 with the Giants beating out Minnesota for McCarthy. Then Bowers is a top 10 pick by Jets and Chargers take OT instead of WR.  Titans will go OT or CB. This leaves the Bears with the choice of Nabors or Odunze.  Minnesota already has two good WRs and probably goes OL or DB.

     

    Lots of assumptions there but all are reasonable.  My biggest concern is the Chargers and what Harbaugh will do. I think he gets an OT to protect Herbert In a deep WR draft and gets a WR in round two.

     

    Both Denver and Raiders need a QB but both Nix and Penix should be still available at 28. Nobody else in between really needs a QB. Maybe Pittsburgh but don't see them taking a QB. 

    Denver and Raiders are both in need of roster overhaul and needs picks.

     

    #28, # 60 and next years #1 should be enough to get to 12 or 13. This leaves two seconds for next year.

     

    Flame away...

    Lance Zierlein: Bills should draft 2 WR in the first 3 rounds

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    1 hour ago, BobbyC81 said:


    Excuse me? Did you not notice all the guys under contract let go and the free agents that signed elsewhere?  
     

    There are only 28 players left from last season.  There are a lot of holes to fill.

    Bills have 49 guys under contract now. 48 really when you consider they have two punters on the team.

    They lost starters at safety x 2, wr x2, edge, and center. Every other starter returned and they get Milano back from injury. They already filled one of the WR spots and 1 safety spot in FA. They filled Center and 1 safety spot internally.  They signed a few special teams level guys and some guys like Collins that will be long shots to make the final 53.

     

    They absolutely need a starter at WR. They need an edge that will play significant snaps and hopefully will be better than AJE. They need a backup RB, a rotational DT, and a safety #3. I don't care much about the position but they also need a punter returner. They probably will add another WR or a CB that has some return ability late in the draft. 

     

    Also they will have a little more FA money after June 1st for a couple more depth guys. 

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    Spotting a Bills fan during travel

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    Happens all the time to me. 

    Saw 2 guys wearing Bills hats and Yankees jerseys at the Guardians game last week.

    Saw two in London, two in Milan, and even a guy wearing a Josh Allen jersey in San Marino ( an independent city state inside of Italy - not Dan Marino's house).

    Go Bills and fist pump is usually all I do 

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    Chad Reuter 7 round mock

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    3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I don't think they have a shot to get a starting edge this year in the draft unless one of the top 3 and maybe Chop falls in round 1. My three round 2 grades are all 3-4 OLBs. 

     

    I wouldn't force it. If I have to live with a timeshare of a washed Von and AJE for a year then so be it. You can't make someone the answer just by overdrafting them.

    Agree. Much rather draft edge in round 2.

     

    My distaste for AJE is well documented.  I think the corpse of Von will rise and have 9 sacks this year. AJE will have 3 in the first 6 weeks and then disappear again.

    Chad Reuter 7 round mock

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    1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

    Only 1 rookie was in the top 30 WRs in yards last year.  Thinking we can get a Diggs replacement for 2024 with a rookie is extremely wishful thinking.  The second tier WRs, IMO, are fine as part of the fill-in with Samuel to replace G Davis, but not Diggs.

     

     I just still can't believe Beane is going to do a rebuild/reset, smack in the middle of Josh's prime.  I think all of Beane's talk about we're fine at WR is an attempt to keep expectations low.

    Oh I see what you mean now. 

    Agree. No WR even the top 3 guys would match what Diggs produced.

    My thought is you get a guy or two and hope the offense is more diverse with Kincaid, Cook, Knox, and Samuel getting lots of opportunities.  

    Are you advocating trading draft pick for a veteran? 

    FYI I don't believe anything Beane says. The only truthful statement he made was the Bills are worse without Diggs. There is no way he believes the WR group is ok.

    Honestly if he drafted 3 WR it would be less shocking than if he takes an edge in round 1. 

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    Chad Reuter 7 round mock

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    2 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

    I have a hard time coming to terms with the on-paper downgrade at WR from last year that we would have with 2 second tier rookies penciled in for large roles.  It would signify to me a rebuild/reset year.  Generally the draft had been considered replenishment for the future - not filling immediate needs.

     

    The idea of a second tier WR being the Diggs replacement isn't right.  Either a big 3 as Diggs replacement with a FA WR (OBJ/M Thomas) or a trade for a vet WR.  I think J Jeff/Aiyuk/Higgins are too expensive ($ + draft capital) but there are others - D Metcalf/C Godwin/DHop/DJ Moore.

    3 of the top 6 rookie pass catchers from 2023 were taken after the first round. One of the six was a TE. So only 2 of top six were first round and both were taken after pick 20.  Diggs as you know was a 4th round pick.

    After the top 3 guys in this draft, the next ten probably have a good a chance as any to succeed.

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