CincyBillsFan

But why would we expect Allen who is running to his left to see Cook who is 10 yards to his right? Can you imagine the body contortion and throw Allen would have to make? Allen is looking at 2 receivers who are in his line of sight, neither of which are working back to him. Now draw a straight line from Allen's head to the end zone. It's not reasonable to think Allen would spot Cook running that pattern.

I disagree. Yes the pass was under thrown but in the NFL and even college football that has to be caught. You can't expect Allen to make perfect throws on every play. He was 11/12 in the 2nd half with that being the only incompletion. I watched a lot of college & NFL games this weekend and I saw guys regularly making much harder catches.

This is a good point. I heard somewhere that teams that do not take the bye after their London game struggle big time the next week.

More then we might admit and that's on Dorsey. Two things stuck out to me: 1) Early in the game they mentioned that the Giants put NT directly on our center. This is unusual for them but it reflects DaBoll knowing that an undersized Morris struggles when a guy is pounding him all game. 2) On the INT and two other plays where an open receiver was there for the quick slant the Giants dropped a LB into that space. The thing I would like to know is how close to DaBoll's passing offense is Dorsey still running?

That's fair but also frustrating. I watched a lot of college and pro football this weekend and I saw a lot of catches like that and some even tougher ones being made.

It's a tale of two half's no? In the first half the O and Allen struggled a great deal. In the 2nd half they were surgical. Three possessions and 2 TD's on two very long drives. A 3rd possession and we just missed a game sealing completion on a nice call & play. Again the defense didn't lay as well as the score indicates. No TO's and they allowed the Giants to go on multiple long drives that while not yielding points took a lot of time off the clock and robbed the O of 2 and probably 3 more possessions.

I meant that had that been Knicaid and not knox he would have caught the ball. Doesn't knox have a hand injury to boot?

Kincaid makes that catch on the under thrown ball that would have sealed the win.

NFC sucks.

Good question. My guess is they won't. There is a weird hatred of Allen by a segment of the sports media. But IMO these INT's by Hurts were worse then the Allen INT's. And don't forget Hurts almost threw a 4th INT a couple of minutes ago.

I get this sentiment. I really do and I suffer from it to. But the truth is that all Sunday night is about is winning. In the first half of the season it's about winning and moving on to the next game. Nothing more and nothing less.

You mean like the 2nd half of last season when we repeatedly won close games against teams when we played unevenly? You mean the games like Detroit, Cleveland, the Jets at Rich Stadium, & the Dolphins playoff game that had some Bills fans complaining about bitterly on 2BD?

I hear you but taking that TO was bad, real bad. And Payton picked that D coordinator which is also not a good look for him.

What's almost as bad as Payton calling the TO is the lack of any comments by Herbie and Al as to WHY he did it. And given that the TO led directly to the FG it should have been a topic of discussion. And from what I can see the geniuses in the halftime show didn't comment on it either. What the hell.

That TO by Payton makes me think he's a worse coach then Hackett.

They called a TO that cost them 3 points. I have lost what little respect I had for Sean Payton. I'm not sure I've seen anything that stupid in the NFL before.

And that should have been Mahoomes 2nd pick. He threw what should have been an easy INT on that 1st drive.

Wilson's season stats are incredibly misleading. Talk about garbage time production.

I know. If I was a Broncos fan I would want the head of the defensive coordinator on a stake. The Chiefs biggest weapon catches the ball and three guys are keeping their distance like he has cooties.

Throw the damn ball it was 4th down. A lot more expensive.

At worst it will result in a 3 and out on the Bills first two drives. Beyond that I suspect that Allen and the offense are going to roll.

Why whenever we push back on what we believe is an unfair and inaccurate criticism of Allen you people throw out the old "I know you aren’t allowed to ever question Allen" canard? It gets old especially given that when on those rare occasions that Allen has a truly bad game, like week one this season, we are appropriately critical. The fact remains that the overwhelming majority of objective evidence shows that Allen played very well on Sunday while the offense overall did not. I suspect that's the topic of interest to most Bills fan. Not trying to act like Allen's play wasn't anything but outstanding against Jacksonville. This is why IMO the culprit here is the impact of jet lag on the players. Allen who is without doubt a top 3 QB plays well but the offense still flounders. Looking at the defense you can see the same strange outcome. The defense played well at times but was woeful on 3rd down at the most critical moments of the game. Something was off and I'll place my bet on the players biological clocks.

For what it's worth on the Cowherd show Greg Cosell, whose opinions on QB play I respect greatly, said Allen played at a high end level and that as a #1 WR Diggs has to make the catch that turned into an INT.

Also people like Greg Cosell whose opinion likley carries weight among the MVP voters said Allen had a great game Sunday and that Diggs should have caught that ball.

FYI, On the Cowherd show Greg Cosell, whose opinions on QB play I respect greatly, said Allen played at a high end level and that as a #1 WR Diggs has to make the catch that turned into an INT.