CincyBillsFan

This, and the fact that he has the weakest offensive supporting cast of the 4 rookie QB's, is the critical piece of information in understanding why Allen is the least impressive of the 4 rookies. To take it a step further in the two & half games Rosen has played in he has faced the #7, #12 & #17 defenses. Darnold has had it even easier facing the #2, #18, #23, #25, #27 & #28 ranked defenses! Sure, playing Buffalo helped the defenses out but with 6 games in the bag the sample size is big enough to say with confidence that Allen has faced the toughest defensive competition of the little three rookies (we can all admit that Mayfield was a step above the other 3).

You make a good point about Mahomes and his decision making. Like any very young QB he is going to have some mental lapses but clearly if I was a KC fan I would be very excited about the future with this guy. This is the 3d KC game I've seen this year and the offensive talent that the Chiefs have assembled around Mahomes is impressive.

Mahomes is fantastic - no question about it. But that WR was WIDE open. In fact think about how many times tonight you've seen a receiver running free. Then think about the Bills games this season and I can't remember a single time that one of our guys was this open more then 20 yards downfield. They call them play makers for a reason. And we don't have them.

Some random thoughts on Allen as I read this thread: * Didn't Arizona make a big push to move up and take Allen over Rosen? * The notion that Allen should have dropped into the 3rd or 4th round seems crazy to me. * The Bills had a shot at two of the top 4 QB's unless you think we should have moved up ahead of the Jets to grab Darnold (which would have cost us a ton). And I've yet to see anything that makes me think Rosen would have been a better pick then Allen. Sure Rosen is ahead of Allen but his upside is way below Allen's. * Like others have said, it would have been ideal for Allen to sit at least half the season. But that's water under the bridge now. Allen became the starter in week 2 and must now take his lumps and remain the starter for better or worse. To bench him for ANY reason other then injury would set his development back. * I keep hearing folks talk about all these other QB's throwing for big yardage while the Bills & Allen struggle to top 100 yards. And I find this frustrating to. But what I see in these other games are RB's, TE's and WR's getting open all over the field. And I don't need a 360 degree review of every pass play to see how open they are. It's right there on my sort of big screen TV and you just don't see that when watching a Bills game. Sure, Allen owns some of this but with the exception of Shady how many of our skill players would see the field on almost any other NFL team?

This is how I see it to. Reading this thread I hear a lot of folks claiming he's not accurate but except for his first pass his accuracy seemed fine. The throw across his body into the middle of the field to Shady was actually quite good. Sure, most times this would be an ill advised pass but McCoy was wide open and ball was delivered with surprising velocity given the contortions Allen was in when he let the pass go. And the problem with the short passes today wasn't Allen's accuracy it was that the Texans seemed to anticipate those plays. They blew up a couple of screens and it was clear that they wanted to force us to throw down field. The idea that the Bills should draft another QB with their 1st round pick next year is insane. Such a move would set the franchise back years.

First post from a LONG time (I attended games at the rock pile) Bills fan and lurker at this site. IMO Allen is making steady progress. A difficult & loud road game against a team with a two stud pass rushers had me expecting a series of disasters. I figured Allen would have a day like Watson had - a bunch of sacks and multiple TO's. Instead I saw some nice throws and evidence of the athletic improvisation that I believe will become more common as the season moves on. The deep pass to Benjamin after Allen escaped the pass rush was a thing of beauty. His only bad throw was his first of the day when he threw it at Clay's feet. Allen also continues to make critical plays with his feet like the 3rd & 10 red zone conversion leading to the 1st FG. Allen is a work in progress. At a minimum he should be given 2 years to develop and next year the organization must surround him with NFL caliber skill position players. The fact that Allen does not have a comfort blanket WR or TE that he can throw to in a pinch is an organizational sin when trying to develop a rookie QB. That must be corrected before next season.