Seventeen

Josh right now reminds me a lot of Favre - when he's good, he's really good. Unfortunately, we're gonna get some of the bad along the way leading to too many interceptions and turnovers.

I remember it well and unfortunately am old enough to remember '77.

How about some accountability from Frazier for not doubling Jefferson on 4th and a mile ?

Even bigger to me is why was Lewis the only one contesting the catch with Jefferson ? And why does Dane Jackson refuse to look back and find the ball - very evident of a few of Jefferson's catches.

True, but everyone knew what was coming with Josh under center.

Probably discussed a few times in other threads, but why not go shotgun here ? Bad snap in that case, Josh has time to fall on it for only a safety with minimal time remaining. Best case, he runs to either side or throws it away 3 times.

This x 1000 ...

Disagree - 3 losses by a total of 8 points to teams with a combined rec of 23-7. Also don't think Josh is messed up other than always feeling like he has to make a play. Poor coaching in some cases. Injuries - badly need secondary help - Tre and Poyer back would be a great start. Do the CBs ever look back to find the ball ?

See Trent Dilfer

I'm assuming a few things ... Milano / Poyer / White are ready to go this week Vikings are a far tougher test than the Browns / Lions where maybe Keenum could win The injury is aggravating for Allen but not likely to get worse A couple weeks rest without throwing could heal it Like everyone else, pure speculation.

If it's just an aggravating "play thru" injury with no chance of long-term issues, I wouldn't object to him playing against the Vikings and then backing up Keenum / resting until the Pats game on 12/1. Should be to able to beat the Browns/Lions with solid D and Keenum.

Don't know about that - bet we could get Baker for a bag of footballs.

Even in the remote chance he needed surgery, Justin Verlander did OK with TJ and was still bringing it 95+ most times.

I prefer to look at the the Jets' loss as a wakeup call, not the iceberg hitting the Titanic. Long season - bad games happen.

All of this - when your QB leads the team in rushing yards, there's an issue. Knox has 20 catches, Davis 18. Too much pressure for Diggs to always be open. Run defense is pretty sad right now, with or without Milano.

Nice website with QB grips ... many ways to hold it. https://qbgrip.com

Should be night home games for both Miami/Tampa in September and 4:25 games in October until the humidity blanket lifts.

You went around the world at Epcot too many times ?

4. Agreed - don't think we need another Broadway Joe 5. Makes me appreciate Tre all the more 7. It sucked being a Bills fan for a long time as well 8. Same but I'm old

As is Tua

Josh has the one trait so many others seem to lack - humility.

Yet you look at his numbers and they're pretty damn good. Rams game notwithstanding.

Case was dismissed and probably settled out of court.

Final round is always at Pebble - top 25 pro-am teams play even though one of the pros in the top 25 pro-am groups might have missed the professional cut.

Nah, all pro-am groups play each of the 3 courses. Otherwise, you'd never see Bill Murray and other ams on the telecast Saturday. Cut is made before Sunday's round. Josh is teeing off @ 10:30 tomorrow with Larry Fitzgerald on Pebble Beach. Edit - sorry, missed your tee time post up a little bit - Josh is playing to a 9 and Larry is a 7 ( at Whisper Rock in Arizona ) meaning he's more like a 2-3.