Inigo Montoya

100%! A good corn starch powder will help with that.

Hey Biscuit, appreciate your post. I though I'd repost my original below, because I think like a game of telephone, what my post was about has morphed a bit in the last 14 pages of responses. I'm not upset we're 10-3, I'm happy were 10-3, I think it's a hell of an accomplishment that we are 10-3 and the #1 seed with everything this team has had to overcome. And despite a dozen+ posts to the contrary by different people here, I'm not upset with how the Bills are playing. My post was about how it has been a rough slog and I always thought that the Bills sitting at 10-3 would make me feel on top of the world, but the road to get there has been so difficult that I haven't enjoyed it as much as I thought I would. I didn't think that would be a controversial opinion. Silly me. 🍻 Original post: "After beating the Jets today the Bills are 10-3 and in the lead in the AFCE and sitting as the #1 seed in the AFC. If you had taken a poll here at the start of the season and asked if we would take those stats heading into week 15 of the season, I think it would be 80/20 in favor of it. Recognizing the Bills are sitting in a very good position right now, why does it feel like this has been a really rough season? Maybe it's the constant parade of injuries? The bad loses to the Phins, Jets, and Vikings? Maybe the fact that we haven't seen the Bills' offense find that gear that they ended the season in last season? Or maybe it's because the Bills have left themselves no room for error going forward if they want to win the division and the #1 seed? I'm not complaining about where the Bills are sitting at right now, I just imagined 10-3 would feel a whole lot better than it does."

Lol! I prefer my reality unvarnished, but thanks for your concern. 🙂

He got folded over Milano's shoulder pads so forcefully his hands touched his toes. It was nuts. On a quasi-related note, I work in the medical field and if I saw that hit, and his reaction when he went to the ground, I would not feel comfortable letting him out of my ER without getting a CT scan of his abdomen to look at his liver. There's more to worry about with that hit than just fractured ribs or a right lung injury. I'm really surprised they let him back on the field. They have x-rays at those facilities but not CT scans. The Tua thing, now this, the NFL is really rolling the dice with these players. I hate to say it, but It's just a matter of time.

Thanks to both of you for your well reasoned and valuable contributions to the conversation. You've made 12 year old's everywhere proud. 🍻 It was nice to watch Tua fall apart last night. He was 10/28 on pass attempts, not even 40%. He couldn't hit anything. Having that game in hand vs the Phins does brighten the outlook a bit. Now the Bills just need to take care of business on Saturday.

Thanks for completely misrepresenting what I said. 🍻

LOL! You fixed it!

I'm not typically a half empty kind of guy. I'm glad you're feeling good. 🍻

After beating the Jets today the Bills are 10-3 and in the lead in the AFCE and sitting as the #1 seed in the AFC. If you had taken a poll here at the start of the season and asked if we would take those stats heading into week 15 of the season, I think it would be 80/20 in favor of it. Recognizing the Bills are sitting in a very good position right now, why does it feel like this has been a really rough season? Maybe it's the constant parade of injuries? The bad loses to the Phins, Jets, and Vikings? Maybe the fact that we haven't seen the Bills' offense find that gear that they ended the season in last season? Or maybe it's because the Bills have left themselves no room for error going forward if they want to win the division and the #1 seed? I'm not complaining about where the BIlls are sitting at right now, I just imagined 10-3 would feel a whole lot better than it does.

Seemed like those short passes right over the middle were open most of the game. Surprised we didn't focus there more. Happy to get out with the win. This is the kind of game we've frittered away before.

The only Vickers I've heard of is the machine gun? If we could set it up in the middle of the field in the secondary we could probably cut way down on crossing routes.

Just when you thought ballot harvesting couldn't get any worse...

It's Groundhog Day!

This team can win a Super Bowl without Von if Josh can get hot like he was last year in the playoffs. Losing Von hurts, there's no putting lipstick on that pig, but the Bills are still as talented as any roster in the NFL. We have a team that can compete, now they just need to get in playoff mode and hopefully catch a break or two going forward.

This is a fantastic message board and it’s my go to place for all my Bills breaking news. Some of the regular posters here have as good of a perspective on the Bills as many of the media types that do it for a living. That being said, this place turns into a suicide cult after every loss and there are a fair number of trolls who come here to stir the pot. I’m not sure how any long term Bills fan can look at the totality of what McDermott has done for this franchise and not be incredibly grateful that he is our coach. Does he deserve criticism for bad moves? Absolutely. Should he be immune to accountability? Absolutely not. But, anyone on this board saying he’s a bad coach or we should move on from him is either a fool or a troll.

From draft night where most of TBD needed to be put on suicide watch to where we are now is simply amazing. We caught lightning in a bottle with Josh. As a survivor of the entire Drought I'm really trying to appreciate this time when the Bills are relevant. We won't have Josh forever, we need to enjoy it while we do.

Josh's injury was not one that would be worsened by him playing according to the reports, it was a pain tolerance issue. Tua's brain on the other hand.....

The majority of their fanbase has grown up, lived their entire lives, with championship teams and they just believe that is the natural order of the universe. They just can not fathom that the the lowly Bills could be better than their beloved Patriots. It forces them to call into question their entire world view. It will be hard for them, they will fight it and try to resist, but after another five seasons of getting destroyed by Josh Allen, they will finally accept the truth... the truth that they suck. I wish all those wonderful Patriot fans Godspeed in that journey, because as we all know, acceptance is the first step towards healing...

Beane runs such a tight ship that the CIA is jealous. It's Beane's style to keep things close to the vest. Who even thought we we're in the Von Miller sweepstakes?

I've read the Josh Green Bay concussion thing a couple times today in different threads and it is honestly the first time I've heard that. What play did it happen on and was there any discussion about it after the game? Josh played at a high level that game and took care of GB handily.

It's become a bit of a cliché when McDermott says to come to the Bills to be the best version of yourself. And when you hear multiple Bills players talk about how tight the players and coaches are in Buffalo, that they're like family, you can be tempted to dismiss it because you hear that from other locker rooms around the league too. A lot of franchises talk the talk about being a "family" but their actions show something completely different when it comes down to crunch time. An easy example of a franchise saying one thing and doing the opposite is the recent Tua fiasco in Miami. McDaniels got up on national TV and said that he had no idea Tua was hurt in the Buffalo game and he would never put a player on the field who was at risk. That's not what he's about. He was lying. Everyone in the Phins locker room knew he was lying. Every player in the NFL knew he was lying. The video spoke for itself. The message was clear, in a pinch, the Phins will risk any player's career for a win. At the end of the day, the player is expendable if that sacrifice will benefit the coach's career in Miami. Even the franchise QB. Now contrast that with how the Bills are handling Tre White and Von Miller. Tre has been brought back slowly and gently eased back onto the field. He only played two series last week against the Lions and played about 65% of the snaps this week. Most franchises wouldn't do it that way. They would tell their multi-million dollar DB that as soon as he is cleared to play medically they want him back on the field. Not in Buffalo. Von Miller is another example of how to do it right. Von comes out and says that he can play through the injury and he'll be back in a couple of weeks. The next morning Beane places him on short term IR so he can fully heal. You can make the argument that Beane and McDermott are just being "big picture smart" letting Tre come along slowly and forcing Von off the field so he can get right for the playoff push, but I think there is more to it than that. I think they genuinely care about the players in that locker room and their actions show it. Most importantly, Bills players see that and other players around the league see that. I think players are beginning to look at Buffalo like they used to look at Seattle as being a player friendly destination and that can only help the team going forward. That perception could be a factor in landing a free agent wide receiver who is coming off of an ACL injury too.

Most Pats fans are still under the delusion that their franchise is relevant and a destination for free agents. They have the worst of both worlds now. In years past, great free agents would come in and tolerate Belichick being a jerk because they were likely to win a ring with Tom there. Now they still have Bill being a jerk and no chance at a ring. It will take a few more years of losing for the realization to sink in that they simply are not the center of the NFL universe anymore.

I would prefer that too but OBJ is going to want as much guaranteed money as he an get and that means a long term deal. He's already had two ACL injuries and knows that his career can be over in an instant with another one. He'll want to back the truck up to the bank one more time. I think Jerry is more likely to write a big check than Beane is. I'd bet he ends up in Dallas. I just don't want a surprise KC signing.

He didn't notice the "pick six" that NE dropped. Neither did I. He did throw a ball to Diggs into double coverage that should have been picked. I don't think it would have been a pick six though. One thing he did notice was defensive ends and LBs getting free rushes at Josh all night and hammering him. He also noticed a long touchdown to Diggs get taken off the board on a blatant hold by a backup TE. He also noticed a ball bounce off Diggs hands that would have been a 1st down on a 3rd and 11. Why do you think Josh has struggled the last few games? He has had bad o-line play, a #2 WR who has disappeared, a TE #1 who is on a milk carton, and slot receivers who have have been hit and miss, and a lot more miss than hit. When Josh has to do everything sometimes it is going to look ugly. Sometimes he is going to have to push. Put any other QB in that situation and there is no way they win all three of those games. I agree with you and Gunner Bill that the Bills played better around him last night. The run game was really clicking. There were some good things that happened last night, more so than in the preceding two games. Let's hope that continues. Let's hope the players around Josh can continue to elevate their play to match his.

My 25 year old son made an observation last night during the game that rang true to me. He said that "players on offense keep taking turns letting Josh down." Between drops by the WRs, stupid penalties, and shoddy pass blocking Allen is forced on nearly every series to overcome some mistake by one of his teammates to get a first down and score some points. He pulls a rabbit out of his hat so often that we just come to expect it and are upset when it doesn't happen. That TD play to Gabe was ridiculous. His ability to move around in the pocket and compensate for the bad pass blocking last night was incredible. It was great to see the running game have success against a good defense last night. Allen needs someone to step up besides Diggs, and even Diggs has had some drops the last two weeks that are uncommon for him. Hopefully they can continue to build on the run game and keep getting healthy on defense so Josh doesn't have to turn water into wine every game. This team starts and ends with Josh Allen. There isn't another player in the NFL who is asked to do as much as he is, and he keeps finding ways to do it. It's exciting to watch but is definitely not a recipe for long term success.