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Inigo Montoya

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  1. 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:


    It does not matter who the back is - teams stack the line and they push our linemen back.  


    Wasn't our last offensive play this week a QB sneak?  


    You're right, it was, but the Ravens were trying to let Allen score so they could get the ball back with enough time on the clock to do something.  Allen just fell forward past the line of gain and got a fresh set of downs to run the clock out with.

  2. Allen is almost impossible to stop on short yardage when he rolls out.  I think Dorsey has been trying to get the backs involved in short yardage, and Moss seemed to do well with it in the preseason, but during the regular season the backs are getting stoned in the backfield.  The O-line is just not getting any push at all and we are more likely to lose a yard than gain one when the backs get the handoff.


    It was 4th and 1 at the Ravens 26 yard line yesterday.  Josh rolled out to his left and there were defenders there prepared for the roll out and it looked like he might get tackled for a loss.  Josh did some of his shifty Elvis hips stuff and managed to cut the ball up avoiding the defenders and got 4 yards and the 1st down.  Josh is way to big to be as slippery as he is running the ball.   Even if a defender gets his hands on Josh he can usually bull forward and drag the defender for a yard or two.   Allen's speed, agility, and strength make him very hard to bring down when he gets a head of steam moving along the line of scrimmage and then decides to cut it up.


    These Allen roll outs were the most successful method for the team to convert short yardage last season, and despite Dorsey's best efforts, were in the same boat again this year.  It's not optimal to have our QB be the short yardage back too, but when the Bills really need to move the ball a yard, rolling Allen out is the best option.  



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  3. What we know


    This is the first week that Tre is eligible to come off of short term PUP list and start to practice with the team.


    From the time Tre comes off PUP and starts to practice, the Bills will have 21 days to activate him to the regular roster or he will have to be placed on season ending IR.


    McDermott was asked yesterday about Tre's status and he essentially gave no answer except that Tre continues to work to get back.


    What we suspect


    Even if Tre is 100% right now I would be shocked for him to lace it up against the Steelers this week due to the matchup.  The Bills secondary should be able to hold up against  the Steeler's offense without Tre in there this week.


    The big question is, will they play him the following week vs the Chiefs in Arrowhead.  It would obviously be a big boost to have him back on the field for that pivotal matchup with plenty of playoff seeding consequences for the Bills.  


    If the Bills don't play him in Week 6 versus the Chiefs, Tre will then have an additional week to rehab with the bye week in Week 7 and will have to be activated before the Week 8 tilt on Sunday night against the Packers at home.  This might have been the plan all along.  


    When he comes back he will likely be on a snap count and alternating time with Elam and Jackson as he plays back into form.



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  4. Just now, Thurman#1 said:



    This is a very very fine defense, but no, they aren't the kind of defense the Ravens had the Trent Dilfer year.


    Opposing teams scored 18 TDs that year against the Ravens. 18 TDs in 16 games, and two of those were pick sixes. That's an average of one offensive TD scored by Ravens opponents per game. The Bills have allowed seven TDs in four games, all scored by the opposing offenses.


    The 2000 Ravens defense allowed 10.3 PPG, the best in the history of 16 game seasons. The Bills 14.5 PPG is still damn good, but doesn't compare.


    Those Ravens put up an insane record of 23 INTs and 26 fumbles recovered by the defense. That's 49 turnovers in 16 games, 3.1 per game.


    Way way way too early to assume the Bills D should be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.


    All fair points Thurman.


    That Ravens' defense was the best defense I have ever seen play (I'm in my early 50's).   I think the game has changed over the last 22 years.  The quarterback can't be touched today.  Neither can the wide receivers.  No defense will ever put up numbers like that again with the way the game is played now-a-days.  It's hard to compare teams across different eras.

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  5. 10 minutes ago, TH3 said:

    Which all due respect…people wake up in the morning and decide to start a start an argument thread?


    1.  I've been up all night, I work nights.  🙂


    2.  I'm just putting an opinion out there.  I expected there would be some people who would disagree.  That's ok.   I'm open to having my mind changed by a good argument.   I appreciate the people here who can disagree with someone without feeling the need to throw stones in the process.  


    3.  It took me some time to look up the stats and put my post together.  I didn't just throw an opinion out there with no supporting evidence.  


    4.  This is a chat board where we all get together and chat about the Bills.  Sometimes we agree, sometimes we disagree, but we all love coming here to read everyone's opinion.  That doesn't happen if people don't take the time to start threads. 




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  6. 8 minutes ago, Dopey said:

    You’re going to have quite a few “Josh is the reason” replies. I get it, he’s really good, I mean really good. For me it’s the defense too. Imagine if Marino or Kelly had this defense? Or even Fouts? I’m so glad we’re not hanging our hat on Josh only. 


    I'm sure I will too, and I have no problem with that opinion, Josh is incredible.  Through four games of the season the defense is giving up an average of 14.5 points a game.  There aren't too many NFL offenses that can't muster 15 points a week on average.  I'm not taking anything away from Josh, just pointing out how amazing this defense is.




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  7. 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

    The defense is the best I have seen with this team in a very long time. However, I have to disagree with you, my friend. Allen is the strength of this team. The fortunes of this team go as Allen goes.


    I agree with you that Allen is the cornerstone of this franchise, but this is the kind of defense the Ravens won a Super Bowl with, and their quarterback was Trent Dilfer.  The combination of Allen and this defense is scary.

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  8. The sizzle on this team is Josh Allen flinging the ball all over the pitch, but the steak is clearly the defense.  They have shut down every team they've played so far.  


    They gave up 20 points in the first half against the red hot Ravens offense and blanked them in the second.  That 20 point total against the Raven's offense is even more impressive when you consider that 10 of those points came directly off turnovers by the offense.  The Ravens scored a TD on a drive that started on the Bills' 4 yard line after the opening drive interception, and the Ravens kicked a field goal on a drive that started on the Bills 36 yard line after Singletary fumbled in the second quarter.


    This defense is also a ball hawking defense and has 9 turnovers through the first 4 games, 7 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries.  There are only two teams with more, the Eagles and Ravens have 10 each.


    They are also 4th in the NFL with sacks through 4 games with 13.  There are only three teams with more, Bucs 14, Cowboys 15, and the Eagles with 16.


    The Bills defense is second in points allowed per game at 14.5.  Only the 49ers are ahead of us averaging 12.3 per game.  The 49ers still have to play their week 4 game tonight against the Rams.


    The Bills defense is second in yards allowed per game at 234.  Only the 49ers are better at 227 yards and as noted above, they still have their week 4 tilt against the Rams to play.


    When you factor in the amount of injuries on the defensive side of the ball for the Bills these performances are even more impressive.  We are getting close to having Tre White and Ed Oliver back on the field and that should only kick things up a notch.  When Josh Allen and the Bills offense is clicking they are amazing to watch, but the defense is the strength of this team.   I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the 2022 Bills defense has the potential to be one of the all time great NFL defenses.



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  9. Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:


    A second Concussion in less than a week can kill someone. Him having that kind of response is terrifying. People should go to jail over this.


    Two mild concussion is close proximity to each other is often worse for the brain than a single major concussion.   The worry is that I think both of Tua's concussions in the last four days were major.  He could really have some lasting damage from these concussions.


    Tua playing again Sunday and then again tonight is malpractice.  I don't use that word lightly.


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  10. 7 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

    We know that there is supposed to be an independent doctor who has the final say, who is supposed to ultimately be responsible for concussion monitoring, and obviously they failed.


    Having an independent doctor there does not absolve the Dolphin's medical staff from their responsibility to Tua.   They should have benched him last week and put him in the concussion protocol.   Period.  It should have never even gotten to the independent doctor. 


    I guarantee you everyone involved in the decision to put Tua back in Sunday is sweating bullets right now.

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  11. 5 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

    Honestly though, as somebody who had a terrible back problem at one point in my life, the explanation made perfect sense once I heard it. It's nerve pain, and it really can be severe enough to just totally buckle you like that


    Back pain sucks, no argument there.  When your back was bad could you have sat up from lying back on the ground like he did and then stand up and start walking with your back in spasm?  My wife has had back issues and when it is bad it is the changing of body position that kills her, from lying to sitting, from sitting to standing, that's when it's the most painful.   I just don't think the video looks like a back injury to me.


    I hope your back stays healthy...




  12. On 9/26/2022 at 4:08 PM, Simon said:



    I actually did say that he hurt his back at one point.

    He got jammed hard on a sneak and it definitely jarred his spine.

    It was about a half hour before his concussion.


    This argument kills me, and I'm not saying that you're making it.  The argument is apparently that it wasn't a head injury, just a spine injury, nothing to worry about there.  What kind of injury to your spine renders your legs too weak to stand or walk? 


    If I was taking care of a patient in the ER who came in with a back injury from a football game that was bad enough that he was left temporarily unable to walk, that patient would be heading for CT and MRI to rule out a spinal cord injury.  In this case it's clear Tua and the Dolphins are lying, it was clearly a head injury from watching the replay, but let's just say that Tua is being honest here for a minute.  Can you imagine the conversation with the unaffiliated neurotrauma specialist in the locker room;


    Tua;  "Hey doc, I hurt my back really bad and my legs didn't work for a bit.  Nothing to worry about there.  It's not my brain that's injured, it's just my spinal cord."


    Doctor;  "We'll that's a whole 'nother story!  Back into the game with you then!  I was worried you had something serious like a concussion."


    Tua;  "Gee thanks Doc!  Who needs a stupid old spinal cord anyways!"


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  13. 7 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:


    In their defence (I feel dirty) an unafilliated doctor is required to check and clear any player who leaves the pitch with beleived concussion. Peter King stated that the doctor saw Tua before he returned to the game.


    That's true.  They are supposed to be there to protect the player from the team doctor being more concerned about the team than the player.  In this instance it didn't work.  The Dolphins knew he was concussed, they saw the same replay we did.


    I have no doubt that if any member of the Bills, whether Josh Allen or a back up special teamer, got their bell rung like that and couldn't even make it off the field on their own, our coaches would never allow them back into the game.  Say what you will about McDermott the coach, but I don't think anyone believes he would have put one of his players back out there in that situation.



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  14. The Phins locker room is enjoying the win right now but every player on that team knows the organization sent Tua back out there with absolutely no regard for his well being and placed winning a game ahead of Tua's health.


    That's a little seed that is going to grow in the back of their minds every time they have an injury and have to deal with the Dolphins medical staff.  The team has shown where they stand on taking care of their players.  If the Dolphins coaching staff, medical team, and front office is willing to sacrifice their starting QB for short term gain, they know that everyone else on that roster is completely expendable.  


    It was a horrific move by the Dolphins to put Tua back out there.  You know it's something that would have never happened in our organization and that's why players want to play in Buffalo.





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  15. 1 hour ago, zevo said:

    this is weak sauce to be mad that tua came back in. we had multiple chances to win. we lost.


    This thread was started right after the 2nd half began.  Not after we lost.  It's not weak sauce, it's a flagrant violation of the NFL concussion policy and Tua shouldn't have sniffed the field again today.  Expect hefty fines to everyone involved in deciding to put Tua back out there.   Any physician involved in the decision should get a letter from their medical board of licensure.  OKing Tua to go back out there was clear cut malpractice.  

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  16. I'm not quite sure how that is possible.  Announcers are mum on it.  Tua being back in the game seems to violate every bit of the protocol.


    Gross Motor Instability ---- Check

    Confusion -----  Check





    Tua couldn't stand or walk after he hit his head on the turf. 


    I'm looking forward to seeing the NFL explain this one...


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  17. https://finheaven.com/threads/bills-fans-coming.374406/


    Here's the thread on Fin Heaven with fans complaining about people selling their tickets to Bills fans and having Bills Mafia take over the stadium.   I can also sense a very subtle undercurrent of dislike from the Miami fans towards Bills Mafia.  There is a chance that I'm just overly sensitive and imagining it... 🤣


    "...but the amount of Bills fans I already see crawling around Ft.Lauderdale is gross."


    "Will be 50/50 fans as usual. It's disgusting."


    "Nonetheless, **** the Bills and their fans."


    "biils fans are just itching to get out of that sh**hole city of buffalo.. hopefully they waste a lot of time and money to come down to see a loss."


    "More fun for watching those hillbillies leave early when they’re getting crushed.  **** them all.


    "If Lauderdale by the Sea is a barometer (it has been for years in regards to the patsies takeovers), we have a major influx on our hand. Truly trash, I can‘t wait until they leave, ugly and obnoxious…and those are their best traits. Unctuous…"



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