Inigo Montoya
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14 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
Based on all the time you spent in the Packers locker room as a teammate?
I wasn't talking about him as a teammate. Keep reading the thread and you'll find my response to your question.
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1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:
One could argue they now have a more complete roster than the Bills…
This makes them better right now, no doubt about it. The only way this move is a win for them is if they win a Super Bowl this year. Anything less and they have busted their cap and traded away the draft capital needed to start the rebuild. They will win too many games to be selecting near the top of the draft where the best QB prospects will go. If they want to trade up they will mortgage even more of their future to do so.
This is the ultimate win now move. Joe Douglas is rolling the dice.
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Just now, BADOLBILZ said:
Bad news........by just trading a couple comp picks Brett Veach could likely move way up and get Bijan and relegate the Bills and the rest o the AFC to irrelevance for years to come.
You really should start a thread about this take. It has "Mario for Skelton" potential resonance.......one way or the other........IMO.
But you're the one who keeps bringing it up? I think you should start a thread on it since you felt the need to stalk me on the message board and bring it back up in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with it. OCD maybe?
Or maybe you should just cut back on the day drinking, get a dog, and take a break from the keyboard for awhile.
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1 minute ago, aristocrat said:
he praised the head coach all the time. What are you even talking about? go listen to all the mcafee shows where Aaron sing his praises. You have zero clue what you’re talking about.Rodgers and the Pack loved each other so much they we're willing to do anything to get rid of each other??? Rodgers' public statements are the equivalent of your kid telling you how much he loves his sister to your face while pulling her hair behind your back.
Rodgers isn't stupid enough to go on tv and submarine the coach and GM. That work is done behind the scenes.
The truth will start to come out now that the deal is done and then we'll see who knows what they're talking about.
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3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
You also think where Bijan Robinson lands ultimately determines the balance of power in the AFC for years to come though, too.
If he ends up in KC, yep.
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2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
you realize he’s beloved in the locker room in Green Bay right? Where do people get these takes from?Of course his fellow players loved him. He spent all of his time and energy undermining the head coach and GM. He poisoned the well in Green Bay with it. He created an us versus them atmosphere in Green Bay between the players and the organization.
The entire organization suffered for it.
There is more than one type of locker room cancer.
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Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:
unlikely. They are now an instant SB contender with a nasty D and strong RBThey are going to pay a locker room cancer and man who was 90% sure he was going to retire two months ago $50mm and burn some serious draft capital for the privilege.
It could work out but I have my doubts. Time will tell.
I am certain of one thing though, if this thing goes sideways it is going to be must see tv!
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I think this backfires and the Jets rue the day this trade was made.
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4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
I think Pacheco pretty much solidified that the Chiefs won’t take Bijan.
But the Bengals might. Or the Eagles.
I’d be shocked if he made it to day 2.
If the Derrick Henry rumors are true I think you can take Philly out of the mix.I’m not real excited to see Robinson lining up behind Burrow either.
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5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I gave you an eyeroll because the same could have been said when they selected the then-spectacular Clyde Edwards Helaire.
We keep hearing that combining an elite RB with an elite QB is SOMEDAY going to lead to........apparently.........a RB who runs for 8 yards per carry........therefore not leading to less production per attempt than an elite QB throwing the ball on those plays.
And then that RB will also catches passes and produce just like a wide receiver so you aren't sacrificing throwing to said WR.
That's not how it works though.
The teams that have RB's that produce both a high volume of carries AND a high average per carry are the teams who are committed to running the football.
Light boxes sound tantalizing but teams that run the ball well consistently do it because that is their style of football. Teams that don't have erratic results when they try to change their style. Just too many mistakes can be made.
In today's NFL.......committing to run the football enough to feed a 20+ touch per game RB comes at the expense of your passing game.
It's just not the 1990's anymore where you need the run game to set up the pass.
Nowadays your elite QB can drop back and throw the ball 40+ times per game and dominate..........and maybe not even get sacked or turn the ball over..........and those yards per play are significantly higher than what you will get from ANY high use RB.
No one puts Bijon Robinson and Edwards-Helaire in the same sentence. That’s comparing apples and toaster ovens.
The Bills have an elite QB who does throw the ball 40 times a game and it’s obviously not been enough to win a championship.
Its easy to ignore the run game and drop everyone into coverage when there’s an average RB behind Allen or Mahomes. Put Robinson back behind them and now you’ve gotta make a hard choice as a defense. A smart QB, like Josh and Mahomes will audible every time to take advantage of the mismatch the defense gives them.
The Bills can field that advantage, or the Chiefs can field that advantage. I know where I stand on that choice.
I hope the Texans draft him with one of their two first rounders and save us all from this and then the Bills can grab the two best O-linemen left on the board in the first two rounds.
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1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said:
All I know is the the prospect of Andy Reid with Mahomes, Kelce, and Bijon Robinson would drive a stake through the heart of the Bills' Super Bowl aspirations for years. It would be an unstoppable offense. KC getting Robinson at pick 31 would be disgusting.
If Bijon Robinson is there at pick 27, the Bills need to draft him. Don't even answer the phone. Turn in the card.
If he ends up in Andy Reid's offense we're done.
@BADOLBILZ gave me an eyeroll emoji for my post above. No reason why I’m wrong, of course, just an eye roll.Andy Reid, best offensive coach in the NFL
Mahomes top 2 QB in the NFL
Travis Kelce top TE in the NFL
2nd best O-line in the NFL
And then you add what is likely to be the top three down RB in the NFL to that offense?
The Chiefs offense would be a point scoring juggernaut and Josh can stand on his head all game long and we’re not keeping up with them score for score.
Where am I wrong here? What do the Bills add in this draft on offense to keep up with that?
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All I know is the the prospect of Andy Reid with Mahomes, Kelce, and Bijon Robinson would drive a stake through the heart of the Bills' Super Bowl aspirations for years. It would be an unstoppable offense. KC getting Robinson at pick 31 would be disgusting.
If Bijon Robinson is there at pick 27, the Bills need to draft him. Don't even answer the phone. Turn in the card.
If he ends up in Andy Reid's offense we're done.
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Bass-o-matic! Best pick of the Bills 2020 draft class.
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58 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
the going was tough DURING THE GAME. What you are referring to is after the "war" is already over and the guy just wants to go home. He bailed on no one. He was one of the only players leading the charge during the game, when it actually counted.
The second that game clock hit :00 he's not beholden to anyone. The entire team should have been kicked out of the building immediately at that whistle for how they performed.
The Bills ran 42 passing plays vs the Bengals. Josh was sacked once and hit 8 times by the defense during those plays. That equates to Josh getting hit more than once every five drop backs. Josh also ran the ball on another 8 plays and took real shots getting tackled on many of them.
Allen paid the price all day long for the horrific O-line play. Dorsey didn't help him any either. Josh was taking a beating all game long and then he gets called out by Diggs? Diggs standing there screaming in Allen's face in front of the cameras and his team mates. And Allen sat there and took it without saying a word. That happened during the game, not after the game.
Diggs doesn't have a problem doing a post game presser when he goes 8 for 125 and a TD does he? After the worst loss of the season he let Josh go out there by himself and take the heat. How many questions did Allen get asked about Diggs screaming at him in the post game presser? How did Allen handle those questions? In a manner befitting someone with a "C" on his uniform. The complete opposite of how Diggs carried himself that day and how he has continued to act this post season. Now he's a no show for the voluntary work outs. There's some leadership for you.
I'm still glad Diggs is on the roster and I hope they can put this behind them, but don't think for a minute that Josh or his team mates will forget it. Diggs was a jerk during the game, and he bailed on the team and Allen afterwards.
Doc, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
The game was over, the season was over, he left.
What does everyone want him to do? Hang out and give everyone goodbye smooches for trying so hard during the first half of the season?
There was nothing left to do or say at that point.
Get over it. I'm sure the team has.
Disagree.
I didn't see Diggs sitting next to Josh in the post game taking any responsibility for the game. No one else on the team ran out of the building like it was on fire afterwards, particularly no one with a "C" on their jersey. I was a sergeant in the airborne infantry. When you have a "brother" who bails on you when the going is tough you don't forget it. You can mend fences and move on, but you don't forget it. Like I said, friendship and loyalty are cheap when things are going good.
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I like Diggs but he acted like a jerk at the end of the season. Friendship is cheap when times are good. Leadership is easy when things are going your way. It's when things fall apart that real friends and leaders step up. Diggs bailed on Allen and his team mates after the Bengals game and that was a punk move on his part.
That's not how "Josh's brother" and a team captain should act.
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I want Beane to grab the two best O-linemen on the board with picks 1 and 2. Give Allen 3+ seconds in a clean pocket and he will dominate with the WRs, TEs, and RBs we have now just like Mahomes did last year with a less than elite receiving corps.
Allen is the key, protect him, give him a pocket, give him the time to get through his reads and the offense will be deadly.
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25 minutes ago, JohnNord said:
The “learning to fall” premise is flawed. He can try to tuck his chin all he wants but most of the time he’s not going to have any control with how his body hits the ground - especially when other players are on topic of him.
It’s different in WWE as the wrestlers (who also tuck their chin) know when then are going to fall and have a high degree of control of their body.
I disagree. Look at the Milano concussion. He falls backwards like a limp fish and snaps his head against the ground. Completely avoidable. After the first concussion the next ones happen easier. I agree, the concussion vs the Bengals that knocked him out for good would have been tough to avoid, he got whipped to the ground.
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They need to get a martial arts instructor to teach Tua how to fall backwards without hitting his head. I took Hapkido lessons at a local YMCA when I was a teenager and they taught us how to fall in every conceivable manner without hitting your head. (Yes, I could take Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris in a street fight) Every class that was part of the warm ups. You practice it over and over until it just happens naturally. It's not rocket science. The concussion from Milano was completely avoidable
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I watched him closely the last two seasons. (I drafted him both years in my FF league) He killed me both years. I'm not sure if Stafford just never looked at him and threw every ball to Kupp, or if Robinson just couldn't get open. I suspect it is the latter though because even in the handful of games where Kupp was banged up Robinson did not produce.
I'm fine with him going to a conference rival. I think he is just a guy at this point in his career. It's a shame, he's another talented player who's career was crippled by the team that drafted him, the Jags, and then went to another team, the Bears, that also had terrible QB play.
He had a couple of seasons where he flashed his potential. If he had a solid QB throwing to him he could have been special. He definitely had some tools.
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18 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:
Don't forget Trevor Lawrence.
I guess we can throw Lamar in that pot too if he ever gets real about getting a contract done in Baltimore.
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8 minutes ago, nucci said:
you don't think his contract will be adjusted before 2028?
It might be. Hurts might be too.
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10 minutes ago, nucci said:
they get to Superbowls
every contract signed years ago looks like bargain. I hate that. Wait in 2 years when he gets a new one
Josh didn't give the Bills a "hometown discount" in the amount of money he is being paid. Where he did cut the Bills some slack was in the length of his contract. Josh signed a six year contract that began at the end of his rookie contract locking him up until 2028. With Hurts new contract, he is also locked up through 2028.
Josh entered the League two years before Hurts did and both of their second contracts end in 2028. The Bills got to lock up their guy at a lower rate for an additional two years compared to the Eagles, and with the inflation of the QB market, those extra years are big. The Chiefs robbed the bank getting Mahomes to sign for ten years.
In today's NFL, I think the length of the contract is more important than the amount of the contract. Every additional year is incredibly valuable to a franchise.
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Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:
Does it really matter? How much more will it be? And nfl contracts are so fluid. They all get restructured and then you have to pay them the same. Every elite qb kinda makes the same. Except prime Brady when he took less than market value. Once you have to pay your qb, you are giving up like 30-40% of your cap.
Respectfully, yes, it does matter that two Conference rivals are going to drastically reduce their available cap space and flexibility this off season. Ask Beane whether it was easier building a roster before or after Josh's second contract.
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The wheel turns for the Pats and their fans
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After stoically enduring two decades of slings and arrows from the worst fan base in professional sports, I do admit to feeling a small amount of pleasure when I see Patriot fans despairing as they find their team deep in the basement of the AFCE with no realistic prospects to turn things around anytime soon. It was bad enough for them watching Josh Allen steal their lunch money, but now they find themselves in a division with the Jets and Dolphins firmly entrenched above them as well.
The Pats finished below .500 last year at 8 - 9. This year Vegas has their over under win total at 7.5. I don't think it would surprise anyone if they they lose every AFCE game this season. In a QB driven league they have a fair to middling game manager under center. They will continue to win enough games to avoid the very top of the draft where they can draft a marquee QB prospect.
Gone are the years when great vets would take a discount to come to New England to try to win a ring with Tom and Belichick. Now there is a diminishing Belichick with no Tom and zero chance to win a championship. Belichick is not adapting to the modern game and didn't even have an OC last year during Mac Jones' sophomore season to help him develop.
Reports are that those two are on the outs after Mac reached out to his Alabama coaches for help last season behind Bill's back. Bill is great friends with Nick Saban and you know Bill feels humiliated with his QB going behind his back to ask Saban for advice.
As a long suffering Bills fan, I won't wish any active evil on the Patriots, but I will take some modicum of pleasure in watching them flail and flounder for the next few seasons as Belichick slowly fades away taking the franchise and their horrible fans down with him.
Pats fans had an incredible run and many believed that riding atop the AFCE and NFL was their birthright. Well, the wheel turns and the Pats are now AFCE and NFL basement dwellers, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people.