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  1. Walter football was my go to for several years until I realized that he sucks, his sight is poorly run, and he’s contrarian about stupid stuff to generate buzz.

     

    I like the Draft Network, and NFL.com’s mock drafts, but mocks are pretty pointless by and by. I use them to try and gauge where players value is, but that’s always hit and miss.

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  2. 50 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

    A few things:

    1.) Beane targets athleticism and size (intangibles), especially in RD1. He is an elite athlete with his size and mobility https://relativeathleticscores.com/ras-information/?PlayerID=19410

    2.) Beane does not draft older players, he is 21

    3.) Beane drafts underclassman, he is a Jr (we have only drafted 1 Sr)

    4.) Beane likes physical players

    5.) The top 3 CBs will be off the board and we are drafting at the end of RD1, which is basically an early 2nd round player. Unless we move up in RD1, the player we pick here will need a little time to grow and develop. Which leads me to my last thought:

    6.) I think he could start off as a big nickel guy, he has the size and physicality, as he transitions to CB#2. He needs to get better with his anticipation and spacing as everyone has already mentioned, but that can easily be coached up. He is already great at looking into the back field, tackling runners, etc. 

     

    Just kind of where I'm at right now.

     

    Trade back and draft him in the second!

    Just now, Logic said:


    Im actually with you on all those points.


    I was mostly just pointing out that, according to Bukowski, he can’t seem to find any teams with even a 2nd round grade on Melifonwu, let alone a 1st.

     

    Thought that was pretty interesting and surprising.

     

    Hard to put much stock in this kind of things these days. 

  3. 17 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

     

    Trust me that Ossai will not reach the Bills in round two. He's still there, the Rams might do cartwheels to the podium.

     

    I'm not a big fan of this WR class, if I'm honest. Once you get past Chase, Smith, Waddle and Marshall, I don't have anyone else graded in the top 2 rounds. I haven't graded DB's this year (because I hate them) but Campbell put on a show against a bunch of receivers that I've watched. I think he's a no-brainer here.

     

    I like Campbell, but the consensus on him is late 2-3 round pick. Not sure why, except that some say he's very raw? 

     

    Lance Zierline has him highly rated, and I usually appreciate his take on things. 

  4. 26 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

    It’s not about me, its about the reality of the current situation, and the best known information we as a species have to counter this virus, it’s not that complicated... 

     

    It is about you though. Your first post, which is now gone (either due to you deleting it, or a mod doing so) was you declaring your way to be the bona-fide truth of enlightenment, while all others are intellectually inferior. 

     

    That's a you problem. There are two sides to this conversation, and declaring the conversation over and the dissenters idiots doesn't work when the second most powerful person in the world (and someone who is on your side of the conversation) along with the governor of the state in question flip flopped their position mere months ago to fit the political expediency of the moment. 

     

     

    I'm not getting into the minutia of the debate, nor have I tried to do that with you. Rather, i was pointing out that your initial ad hominem was douchey. 

     

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  5. 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

    Just saying out loud what  I have heard, read, and  seen first hand from that minority of our fellow Americans... 

     

    Including the Vice President who is helping with the rollout of the vaccine, or the governor of NY who signs the checks of the guy whose statement started this thread? Or does skepticism only = low intellect when it fits the side of the fence you’re currently munchin the grass on?

     

    Your initial post calling anyone who disagrees with you/this decision of low intellect is pretty telling for how willing and able you are to engage in useful dialogue about your believes and held opinions. I’d encourage you to rethink that.

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  6. 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

    I’ll leave the crazy talk out of it and just say my opinion that I do not agree. I support vaccines. I do not support forcing this specific vaccine on people to gather in public this fast. 
    All I can see is 3-5 years from now on tv:

     

     

    Have you or a loved one had (insert complications here) from the covid vaccine, please call our law offices at xxx-xxx-xxxx you could be entitled to compensation. 
     

    But I will not make too big of a stink over this because I wasn’t going to be attending any games this year 


    A good post. I don’t attend games so I’m not gonna lose my ***** about this excluding me, but the principle is ridiculous and the very thing some people have been waiting for since last March.

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  7. 40 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

    This is the ONLY way to do this, very happy to see that those in charge are doing the right thing for the greater good of our community / society, Good on them! 
     

    Now we will get to listen to the low intellect people complain about being required to do the smart thing, it must hurt them so very deeply to do this for the greater good of their own community. 


    It’s always amusing to me the rhetoric that has to be attached to those who question a rushed, conditionally approved medical treatment for a disease with a 98% survival rate. I suppose since your arguments are so clear and above reproach that stooping to ad hominem’s is your own personal flavor?

     

    Anyway, I won’t question the vaccine process until someone of high authority in our country does.....

     

     

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    I’m not that confident,” Cuomo said, adding: “You’re going to say to the American people now, ‘Here’s a vaccine, it was new, it was done quickly, but trust this federal administration and their health administration that it’s safe? And we’re not 100 percent sure of the consequences.’ I think it’s going to be a very skeptical American public about taking the vaccine, and they should be.”


     

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/18/what-andrew-cuomo-kamala-harris-said-about-vaccine-skepticism/%3FoutputType%3Damp

     

     

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  8. 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

    While I don’t disagree, it’s actually very smart in that the Ravens can know with near certainty what they have in Lamar before they hand him a huge contract.  I think we probably all know now, but it would really remove any question in the matter. 


    They’ll trade up our ETN. They already know. 😛

  9. 47 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

     

    Seems unlikely that he'll be scaring anyone (except Bronco fans), if they sign him and then move him to the offensive side of the ball. 😉 And, honestly, at this point in his career, Melvin Gordon isn't scaring many defenses either. That, said, I know what you were get at...Denver is building what looks to be a scary good offense at the skill positions. :beer:


    You're gonna tackle Melvin Ingram running from the H-Back position? Good luck. Your funeral. 

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  10. 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

    With the 9th pick, the Atlanta Falcons select Patrick Surtain II, Cornerback, Alabama. 

     

    The Dallas Cowboys @Logic are on the clock. 

     

    The Falcons' needs are all on defense. Grady Jarrett and Deion Jones are the only two players they have above replacement level on that side of the ball. Their corner play was particularly awful in 2020 and so in comes Patrick Surtain II - the best corner in the class and a top 5 talent getting pushed down by all these Quarterbacks and pass catchers. I was willing to take him at #4 but getting him and additional picks will kick start the rebuild.


    Getting Surtain and a couple extra picks is sweet for the falcons. 

  11. 47 minutes ago, Virgil said:

    Trade Alert

     

     

    Carolina gets:

    2021

    1st (19 overall) - 875 pts

    2nd (51 overall) - 390 pts

    3rd (82 overall) - 180 pts

    2022 1st round pick - 390 pts

    Total Value - 1835

     

    Washington gets:

    2021

    1st (8 overall) - 1400 pts

    3rd (73 overall) - 225 pts

    Total Value 1625

     

    With the 8th overall pick, the Washington Football Team selects Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State

     

    GM:  With only one premiere quarterback left, Washington was happy to get one of their top two guys with the Broncos, Falcons and Patriots coming up.  We were worried the Panthers would take Lance, but they went with our offer instead.  While it's a lot to give up, we aren't thrilled with next years draft class and happy to have Fitzmagic here to help guide the young rookie his first year.  Lance has all the tools you look for in a NFL quarterback and were happy to not give up as much as we offered to get into the top 5.  Wins all around.

     

    The Falcons @GunnerBill are on the clock


    That’s a good get for the Skins. I like Lance in a place he can sit and learn, and Scott Turner seems to be trending up as a play caller. Good young core on offense as well.

  12. Just now, Reed83HOF said:

    This team has so many holes, but a true WR 1 is too hard to pass up

     

    The lions are rising quickly on my "dgaf" board. I have no idea what they're trying to build, and if we're being honest, nobody has known for years... At least with Stafford they were interesting. 

     

    My only hope for them is that when they're 0-11 that comment Brockers made about Goff ends up leading to a lockeroom fight. That's probably the only thing putting them on the radar for me this year. :P

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  13. 2 minutes ago, Virgil said:


    Yeah, that value chart was always strange to me.  Moreso because you don’t know where they will draft 

     

    That's why next years picks are always weird to judge... Look at the Dolphins. They have the third pick in the draft cause two years ago the Texans thought they were a Tackle away from regularly competing and drafting late 20's. 

     

    If the cardinals trade next years first and Murray blows his ACL in the first game and they go 4-12, its a good deal for the Bengals, but if they go 12-4 and win the SB, it's a less good deal. So much risk with the unknowns. 

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  14. Just now, Alphadawg7 said:


    Sorry everyone, I was out of town and missed the start of this.  I’m back now and ready for the next picks.

     

    For the record, I was gonna take Wilson anyway as I think that will be the Jets pick personally anyway.  So whoever took him for me, good choice :)

     

    It's pretty much in stone at this point. The only thing missing is you explaining how this "toolsy QB with a lot of upside" is different than the last one you just ruined. ;)

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  15. 4 minutes ago, Virgil said:


    Can you show the points value on this?  It seems like way more than 10% extra. 

     

    By my figuring: 

     

    Arizona's 1 and 2 this year = 1410. Their 1 next year would be about 410, and 3 next year about 50 for a total of 1870. 

     

    6 overall is 1600, so he got a positive of 270 or so. Closer to 17% bonus for the Bengals. 

  16. 2 minutes ago, Draconator said:

    TRADE

     

    The Arizona Cardinals send their 1st (#16) and 2nd (#49) in 2021, and their 1st and 3rd in 2020 to Cincinnati for the #6 overall pick in 2021.

     

    With the 6th pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select, Penei Sewell, Offensive Lineman, Oregon. 

     

    The Detroit Lions and @Reed83HOFare on the clock. 

     

    Arizona was thinking seriously about trading down to stock up on picks, but a player of this caliber was too enticing to pass up. This pick addresses a need on the Cardinals line, protects Murray's blind side, and allows the Cardinals to compete for the NFC West title for years to come. 

     

    I don't like this, but it actually seems pretty realistic given their offseason so far... Seems like Kliff and Keim are fighting for their jobs this year. 

     

    Too rich for my blood, especially when you likely could have gotten Darrisaw at 16. 

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  17. 1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

    The funny part about doing this is that we seem to be a bunch of rather impressive GMs imo. We are certainly better than Levy or Whaley lol!!!

     

    Hey, when you can trade a future first round pick for a mediocre WR in the deepest WR class in history in order to prop up your bust QB who you way overdrafted the previous year, ya gotta do it. 

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