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5 minutes ago, stevewin said:
I absolutely hate any earnest commercial overreaching to send a heartfelt lesson to the human race
Seems consistent coming from a guy with Billy Burr as his profile pic. (I approve and agree.)
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This will come down to Foles' desire to leave. If he's happy there backing up Wentz, the Eagles would be insane to move him (even for a 1st rounder). If he want's to go I see him going to Arizona or a place that can be a little more conservative.
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1 minute ago, matter2003 said:
Well if you are going to do that then you'll also have to admit they have probably the best defensive line in the NFL as well...and have been up there since the Bills were fielding the Mario-Dareus-Williams-Hughes line.
And Todd Gurley was off the chains as a rookie then had a down year last year(still had almost 900 yards rushing tho), so it's not like he sucked.
Gurley had 2,000 yards rushing and 16 TD's his first 2 seasons...what are you taking about?
I mean, if you want to go blow by blow we can look at the fact that McD has a great running back, a QB with better statistical performances in previous years (over Goff), a better offensive line going into the season, and several pieces on the D-line that had been great at one time (Dareus and Hughes).
I'm not saying that the Rams don't have a lot of talent, but as McV (and Fischer) proved, talent isn't worth anything without proper coaching. Your assertion that McD did more with less just doesn't seem to stack up to me. He coached a great year and had a team that played pretty well for the majority of the year. But at the end of the day, the Bills did not have an offense and had at best an inconsistent defense. McV took what he had and worked them into a great all around team. He took a 1st overall pick dangerously close to being a bust and made him an all-star.
McD is a great coach and the bills had a great year. McV was better.
10 minutes ago, matter2003 said:Well if you are going to do that then you'll also have to admit they have probably the best defensive line in the NFL as well...and have been up there since the Bills were fielding the Mario-Dareus-Williams-Hughes line.
And Todd Gurley was off the chains as a rookie then had a down year last year(still had almost 900 yards rushing tho), so it's not like he sucked.
Gurley had 2,000 yards rushing and 16 TD's his first 2 seasons...what are you taking about?
Arguably Woods was more productive with the Bills in 2014 when he had 699 yards receiving(and 9 more receptions) and the same number of TDs on a team that ran the ball more than anyone in the NFL. Again...what are you talking about?
McVay got great production from Goff...that was not expected based on how he played last year, but look at the huge strides Wentz took from year one to year two as well...Wentz was pretty bad for the last 10 games or so his rookie year...he played well for the frist four game and then DC's caught up to him and he was mostly dreadful after that.
You seem to not know what you are talking about with players. Maybe you should go review befroe you post.
McDermott did what he did with a team expectred by many to win 4 games and with a lot of people claiming they were tanking.
And we had two games against the Patriots....I'd trade those for any two games the Rams had.
Well, you might be right that I don't know what I am talking about... That very well may be the case. The people who gate paid to answer the very question we're discussing agree with me though. (or rather, I agree with them.)
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9 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
I'm not sure I am admitting he was better. McDermott did more with less. There is no way from a talent standpoint the Rams were only 2 wins better than the Bills.
Except that as soon as August rolls around (as in, after the draft and all the "what if's") talent is determined by production. To say that Jared Goff is a great NFL talent can only be authenticated by looking at how Jared Goff has played in the NFL. Same with Robert Woods and Todd Gurley. Now, while I am the first to say that Jeff Fischer's incompetency is off the charts and he held that team back, you cannot deny what McV did in one season to turn that team around. McV got production from players who did not have a track record of production and from players who had not played well recently. From 4-12 to 11-5? That's impressive.
I think if the Bills don't get helped into the playoffs the conversation isn't even being had as to if McD is in that realm.
It's also important to remember that McV did it in a significantly harder conference.
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Brady was pretty obvious even if Gurley deserved it more. No way that wasn't going to be a QB. If JJ Watt doesn't win it in 2015(?) with the greatest season a defensive player has ever recorded, no way a RB gets it.
JJ for man of year!
1 minute ago, matter2003 said:I'm not saying McVay may not have deserved to win...but the fact McDermott got no votes was a little ridiculous.
Inheriting a loaded team and simply getting them to play like they should have the past 4 years shouldnt automatically give you the coach of the year award.
But if McVay deserved to win it then why did McD deserve a vote? Don't get me wrong, McD was great... But if you admit that McV was better, whose to say someone should have voted a different way?
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37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Cleveland
Giants
Denver
NYJ
Outside Top 10
Redskins
Miami
AZ
Buffalo
Saints
Jacksonville
and to take it a step further
Cleveland - Darnold
Giants - Allen
Denver - Mayfield
Jets - Rosen
Browns- Darnold
Giants- Manning (will draft barkley- I think they like webb as the future.)
Broncos- Cousins
Jets- Rosen
Redskins- Smith
Dolphins- Tannehill (They are probably the only one I can see taking a flier on Mayfield, but they so deeply underperformed that they have too many holes to take a QB)
Cardinals- Allen/Mayfield (I think they probably pick up a vet and then go for Allen who has the higher ceiling.)
Saints- Brees (Don't seem them being willing to trade up. Also, it's been said that they see Hill as their next guy)
Jacksonville- Bortles (A first round pick at all is a bit risky, trading up is almost impossible to justify. I see them as a potential landing spot for Jackson as someone who can pressure Bortles/provide a spark if needed)
I'm not saying it's likely that Mayfield is there at 21, but I do think it's possible. I think that these 4 QB's will not necessarily impress teams all that much and with all the vet. talent moving around It isn't totally unbelievable that one of 4 top guys drops.
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I think it's more likely that Josh Allen is there at 21.
I don't see the giants taking a QB so I would expect Darnold at #1, Rosen at #5/6 (depending on cousins), Allen or Mayfield at #15 and then the potential that the other falls. However, this seems unlikely.
1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:Nope
4 QBs will go in the top 10
Rosen
Darnold
Allen
Mayfield
Which four teams do you see in the top ten/trading up that are desperate enough for a QB to spend a top ten pick?
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Well, when Denver or the Jets sign Kirk Cousins, that leaves one of those two, Cleveland, and Arizona as teams desperately in need of a QB in round one. With that being said, there's a bunch of teams that could need a QB (Giants, Chargers, Dolphins, to name a few) so we could see a slide of one of the top 4 guys, but it's hard to believe that they'll fall in our lap.
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3 guys I like are Sony Michel, Trumaine Edmunds, and Anthony Miller.
I know pro comparisons are always sketchy, but I've heard these guys compared to Kareem Hunt, Anthony Barr, and Antonio Brown respectively. Not to say they will get to that level, but they all seem like very talented players that stand to make a difference.
I think McD would have fun with Edmunds. I also like him cause I live about 20 miles from where he went to highschool (Danville, VA). I have a friend who remembers watching him play basketball in highschool and says he looked huge.
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3 minutes ago, horned dogs said:
Why on earth would a guy like Cousins want to play for the Jets? I mean really...are they going to give him that much more than anyone else and totally blow the top off the market? What is so compelling about the Jets to Cousins. Are they going to fully guarantee his contract or something? This part makes no sense to me.
If the Denver thing happens after yesterdays trade it is not a great day for the Bills IMO. We are down to Minnesota scraps and a forced move up in the draft...which BTW won't be as easy as some seem to think or a sure thing. Tyrod time?
The Jets have quietly built a solid team (Although lacking in a lot of areas). The receiver group looks good with Kearse, Anderson, and Sefarian-Jenkins, the defense is viable, and the offense managed to play well with Josh McCown. There have also been rumors that they might try to get Cousins and Bell which would make that a dangerous offense.
It's also worth noting that with rumors of the imminent collapse of the Patriots dynasty (take it for what it's worth) that there could be a potential power shift allowing for a riser. Not saying NY is a safe bet to content (even with Cousins) but I don't think they're that horrible of an option.
And while we're discussing the options: Denver does have some supporting pieces, but they're aging and the offensive line is terrible; Jacksonville has a good young group but there's about to be a whole lot of money hungry folks in that town and they've already used a lot of cap (could be a Seahawks situation in the next 2-3 years); and Cleveland is still Cleveland (although with Cousins and all those draft picks under the leadership of Dorsey I could see them competing soon!)
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16 minutes ago, Cash said:
All of these teams overpaying for top 15 (but not top 5) QBs will eventually regret it. I don't agree with this whole "you have a QB or you have nothing" mentality that's so pervasive these days. I'd rather have a bad-but-not-horrendous QB at a cheap price (Josh McCown?) than a good-but-not-great QB at an expensive price (Smith? Cousins? Flacco? Stafford?). Basically, I either want a guy so good he can drag a bunch of stiffs to the Super Bowl (i.e., Aaron Rodgers, prime Peyton Manning, etc.), or a guy who comes cheap enough to build a Super Bowl contender around him. If there was a real QB middle class, where you could sign a guy like Flacco or Dalton for like $14 million/year, then I'd be up for that as well, but that doesn't really exist right now.
This definitely makes sense, but there's one flaw with this. When it comes to the Superbowl and the playoffs, teams will find ways to put the game on the shoulders of the Quarterback (tune in Sunday for a front row seat of this) so you have to have a QB who can at least handle that pressure and make the necessary plays needed to win. That's why Joe Flacco get's paid that way, because even though he reminds me of day old coffee during the regular season, he has shown poise and ability in the postseason (Though that part of his career might be over).
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16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Good first post! Post more!
You make a very valid point. Washington is suffering from a self-inflicted wound.
I'm unsure that Cousins and Smith are equal talents.
Cousins is coming off 3 years >4000 yds and >25 TD.
Smith had a career year last year, >4000 yds and >25 TD for the first time, with Hill, Kelce, and Hunt ( I think >> Crowder, Davis, and Thompson)
At best, one has to say that Cousins has demonstrated he can play at a high level for a longer time.
At worst, Smith could regress towards his career mean sort of like...well, sort of like a Bills QB who got signed to a sweet deal after half a great season. Hopefully not to that degree.
We'll see.
I agree. I think that the argument could be there that you could reasonably expect similar things out of these two but I see that as Cousins middle ground, and Smith's ceiling. I think Cousin's potential has him worth significantly more than Smith even before you factor in age. That being said, I struggle to see Cousins being the highest paid player in the league, but again, that will happen because Washington made the decisions that they made.
This trade is a pride move by Snyder. He didn't wan't to pay Cousins because he didn't want to admit that he was wrong about RG3, and now he wants to pretend that he can replace him easily and act like Cousins was never that good. Not going to happen. I expect Cousins to perform very well wherever he goes.
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Hey all- long time reader, first time poster.
I think something that is being forgotten in all of this is that the only reason Cousins market value is so high is because the Redskins drove it up by franchising him two years in a row. It's been widely reported that Cousins was willing to take a team friendly deal two years ago but Snyder and the other idiots in D.C. mismanaged the situation and instead drove his price through the roof.
Cousins will get paid like crazy (more probably than he deserves), but a big reason why is because Washington screwed up. Now they're trying to save face by importing an equal talent (whose older) and pretending like this is a forward thinking move.
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2018 Super Bowl commercials
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Now I'm imagining McD doing standup...