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Seth Roberts. Here's the deal, they basically have to eat 4.5 million of dead money if they cut him, but that contract comes off the book completely if they can trade him. I think he is a good player who would slot in as a 2/3 here, but his cap hit is a bit high. I actually think the Raiders may have to pull an Osweiler and trade Roberts and a 4th round pick, for like a 6th round pick. I always liked him...like Jones, he's had issues with drops, but is a solid player.

Long snapping is a very specialized skill. These guys practice it basically for the entire practice. Overlooking this to keep some garbage bottom 53 player is not wise. Just ask Trey Junkin who cost the Giants a playoff game...they got cheap and took him off the scrap heap. People don't realize that a split half second of snap time is the difference between every kick getting blocked and none of them getting blocked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUnW7yL8Pc

There is no way the Steelers wanted Rudolph over Allen. They may have had a late first round grade on Rudolph, but there is no way they had him as a the first quarterback. Hogwash.

Agreed! There is totally a training camp skirmish in there waiting to happen.

I like him. I think he definitely competes for time and I do hope he is good enough to start in the slot.

? So I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Rudolph is not in an ideal spot. He might eventually replace Big Ben and the fans will hate him because they will expect him to be Big Ben and not matter what he does, he will not live up to expectations because he simply does not have enough talent. They will draft someone else, and that guy will be in an ideal spot because he is simply replacing Rudolph. Rudolph would be in an ideal spot in a place like Baltimore, Cincinnati, or Jacksonville where teams kind of know their quarterback sucks and Rudolph would not have to do too much to look better than them. Even here where he would have only had to compete with AJ. Anyway I was very much against this guy on my team, but I wish him luck.

Yeah I'm not some kind of Kerley lover or anything, but he's probably the second best receiver on this roster right now (not ideal) and the best fit to play in the slot. Ideally we add a better #2 and Jones becomes #3, but as currently constructed Kerley is the best fit to play in the slot. He also helps in the return game. I would love to bet on the Reilly's and Dupre's of the world, but if no other pieces are added, I think Kerley makes the team and plays as the Slot guy.

I think he is penciled in as the slot receiver for now, unless they add someone else. I do think there is a good chance they add someone, but Kerley can definitely play.

I have not seen much written about Matt Boesen. He's an undersized defensive end, who can really get to the quarterback. He could stand to gain 10-15 pounds, or he could become an OLB. He was at Boise State playing as a RS freshmen and got in some trouble and was dismissed from the team. He wound up at a JUCO and transferred to TCU. PFF loves him. In one game he had like 14 quarterback pressures and six sacks. He also has a bit of an edge to him as he has been ejected a number of times. Not sure he really has an NFL position, but this guy is interesting. Firs training camp fight likely Boesen vs Teller. Oh and he was a pretty good high school wrestler.

I don't understand why he is too small and probably just a nickel. I mean he's got a few pounds on EJ Gaines and is bigger than Joe Haden and a lot of other corners. About the same size as Denzel Ward. Now obviously I understand that he doesn't have the coverage skills of Ward, but why is he a slot guy because of his size? seems like a throwaway line I keep seeing.

It is one thing to have NFL bloodlines....This dude had that, plus he had an NFL recievers coach living in his house. His dad was a really good route runner and special teamer and that is how he hung around so long. Proehl is going to make this team.

If he can play some special teams, I think he makes the team. Something like this seems likely in my mind. Benjamin Jones Kerley FA/Holmes/Reilly Proehl Foster Proehl backs up Kerley as a slot and Foster backs up Jones. Ray Ray to me is a special teams/WR/RB type of roster spot.

He served a PED suspension last year when he was injured. This offseason Beane signed Murphy, Odigizuwa, Kerley, and Palepoi...all four had PED suspensions at one point, so I'm not sure he cares about that. I think it depends on $$$$ and if Cushing can play anymore.

Appreciate the effort put in. A couple of points, imo. One of Zach Martin or DeMarcus Lawrence will hit the open market. The Cowboys cannot franchise both of them. I would love to have either and we will have the money to spend. I do not think Trent Murphy will play off the ball at all. He's really a defensive end who played some 3-4 OLB in Washington. He could play some SAM in 4-3 under looks, but that's about it. He's a defensive end. I think Milano will get some stiff competition at WILL from Julian Stanford, but I think Milano wins out. I could see some lower level depth added, possibly a vet like Karlos Dansby or a cheap lower level vet like Jordan Tripp to add depth and play special teams (Tripp was drafted by Dennis Hickey and played for Bob Babich in Jacksonville.) I could see us taking a shot on a Brian Cushing or Lawrence Timmons to ease the transition for Edmunds and to play some SAM. On the line, I still think Luke Joeckel makes a ton of sense and is clearly the best guard on the market who should come cheap at this point.

His throw away line about Edmunds being an off ball linebacker is just stupid. Like is he implying we didn't get good value? Does he think teams should pass on Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Luke Kuechly etc etc because they are off ball linebackers? It's dumb and lazy. I think I will go with Bob Babich's opinion on Edmunds. He developed Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Telvin Smith etc etc. I take his opinions on Edmunds much more than some dork at a computer. He also implies that McDermott has too much power which seems like a weird thing to say. What the Browns did, allowing their head coach to have zero say is dumb. I believe McDermott and Beane work hand in hand and take feedback from all of the experienced guys around him. How do all of these so called analyst get paid for this bullcrap?

Probably the Jets

I think Maclin is done and I think Decker hated playing for Robiskie...not sure though. I like Seth Roberts of the Raiders. I do think some good young players will shake loose.

I wanted Rosen as well, but was fine with Allen. Once I got over myself, I am able to see the appeal of Allen. I said I would be happy with any of Allen, Darnold, Rosen, and here we are. I don't delude myself into thinking I know so much more than the scouts and people in the NFL. I still think it's funny that people STILL think we should have drafted Mason Rudolph at 12 when he went in the seventies. That is people being babies because they didn't get their guy. It's irrational. All the talking heads who like our draft, like Kiper, Prisco and Matt Miller love Josh Allen...the people who hate our draft like the Sporting News think Allen is going to be a bust. It is a horrible and biased way to grade either way. Pretty much teh same thing is going on here. I'm sorry guys, but I don't give a crap that we weren't able to draft Deon Cain. I care that we got two top 15 players at teh two biggest positions of need. Is it boom or bust? Sure...but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. We did not trade future picks and did not mortgage teh future to do what we did. What I do love about it is that they got their guy. Someone mentioned it in another thread, but the minute the Bills traded up it seems like Allen knew it was him. I believe that he was the #1 quarterback on their board and that they would have taken him at 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7....I believe that is why we heard so much chatter about them trading up to 1 and 2 early on. I really feel that they were trying to get up for Allen. Those rumors died down because they started to realize that A: Cleveland and NY were staying put, and B: they were going to be able to Allen later in the draft. I think it is great. I think the Bills had a really good draft. People who hate it, hate it because they don't like Allen, or they are mad because they didn't get their guy. It's fine if you don't like the player, but no one can argue with the process. There was a slight overpay to get up for Allen, but that's the cost of getting a quarterback. I've said it before...coming into the draft it was said that there was about 15-20 excellent players in this draft. We got two of them. What's not to like? We got a steal in the third and drafted some interesting secondary guys and a possible starter on the line who may also be a steal. Trust the process, drink the kool aid, whatever. Jump in Bills fans...this is what we call HOPE.

Gotta have some balance! ?

Boettger is interesting. Former quarterback who was recruited as a tight end and has played guard and tackle,

Some Bills fans are so afraid of success and having good players. They get obsessed with people like Brandon Reilly, but complain that KB sucks. Jon DiGiorgio brings his lunch pail and works his butt off, but Tremain Edmunds is so flawed. Some wish we still had Preston Brown even though he was slow as crap and one of the main reasons we lost the Jacksonville game. Many still think we should have drafted RUDOLPH! in the first, even though he went in the 70s. It's strange...it's like they don't want to be let down. Now that Tremaine is ours, some people have to poke holes in him so that they aren't let down if he struggles a bit. I've used this analogy before, but it's like dating an ugly girl instead of a hot one, because you are afraid the hot one might leave you some day. Very strange.

I'd love to See Reilly push a guy like Holmes of this roster, but I don't expect much else. I do like him though.

True. Benjamin and Jones are locked in. That's pretty much it.

Decker just had the worst year of his career playing for Terry Robiskie and I'm not sure he loved playing for him. I think he might be done. I'm not sure Maclin has much left in the tank either. I want Seth Roberts from the Raiders. There will be some good players cut at some point and he might be one of them. However, they have to eat basically his entire salary, 4.5 million if they cut him and save that amount if they trade him. To me that means they will keep him, or trade him for basically anything.

Also, if you want to get irrationally excited about someone, go look up Julian Stanford's combine numbers and look at some highlights. 4.51 and 27 bench reps. Jets fans feel he never got a fair shake. I was annoyed by his signing initially but this dude could be a sleeper.