ColoradoBills

Works for the Air Force Falcons down the street from me!

I think it's realistic to assume that Hollins will be WR4 at best. I can see a scenario where he is beat out in camp and relegated to WR5. In those roles he will be behind the top 3 WRs along with a minimum of Cook and Kincaid and maybe behind Knox. Even as a WR4 he will be probably getting #7 pass catcher targets. 250-300 yards and 2-3 TDs would be fine with me in that role.

Don't forget the LB discussions. Beane and McDermott were toast for not bringing in star FAs and their draft picks were going to bust. Sometimes (no matter what you think) it's best to just wait and see what happens.

FTR, I don't put you or @Kirby Jacksonin THAT category. I'm generally a positive guy but I just posted in another thread how I thought for sure Beane was going to double-dip WR in the draft. He didn't and I question that move. That being said, the draft and Beane's choices are history now so I'm not going to dwell on it. Until camp starts, I'm just going to watch what happens and try to figure out what their reasoning is.

I'll admit I thought Beane was going to double-dip WR in the draft. It's over so I'm just looking forward to see what happens.

Thanks for your Davis input. I bring that up because I do believe the negative plays he generated is not talked about enough. His occasional big plays are definitely offset by the bad ones and the complete vanishing act in too many games. I'm as interested as anyone about the deep threat "apparent" void. I can't answer that, and I will definitely want to see who is doing that in camp and how they are faring. It will be a challenge for Brady to find a way of splitting Diggs's targets and production among the WRs and TEs. Another question that has to be addressed. I guess my overall opinion is, it's not insurmountable. It definitely is going to put a change of tactics on Josh Allen's shoulders. I'm going to trust him and Brady to figure it out until next season when I see another starting WR brought in. Bottom line for me is I have a hard time being all doom and gloom with Allen as the QB. Josh and Brady having to be on the same page goes without saying.

I find it hard to believe that Brady will not send different WRs deep. Someone will get 9 routes. It's true that Shakir only had 45 targets, but he caught 39 balls. He also hasn't had an interception against him in his 2 years in Buffalo. Gabe had 81 targets but only 45 catches (6 more than Shakir). 6. 6 is also the magic number of interception that Gabe gave up each of the last 2 years for a total of 12. I had high hopes for Gabe Davis, but they did not come true. Overall, Davis did not produce enough and had a lot of drive killing INTs and drops. His production and benefit to the team can easily be made up with another WR on this team.

No room around here for the truth. I'll admit I had to look that up to confirm. Interesting. I didn't give much hope for the Claypoole signing but now I want him to get his stuff together and perform. It would piss off so many on this board.

Maybe Chase has "wised up" taking 14. Josh always looks for that #. Mental "muscle" memory.

LOL, there would be no arguing and hot takes so it would fall off the first page in 20 minutes.

This is nothing, wait for OTAs and camp. Both sides of this debate will twist themselves into knots championing their causes. Every time I start to think negatively about the team, I remember we have Josh Allen as QB. I'll just sit in the middle and wait for the games to be played.

If they keep 6 WRs the math will work out that 1 will not dress most weeks. That WR could have more WR potential than ST worth. I agree that WR5 needs to be a ST guy.

The fans of the NFL pay your salary Patrick. Let them do what they want. Go troll somewhere else.

Hollins is a back-end guy. FWIW Claypoole took over 100 snaps on ST for Miami last season in half a season. Guys like Shorter and Shavers need to work on the ST craft. It's not rocket science.

Beane probably didn't want to sign OBJ, especially for the money he just signed for. Chark I believe was considered but we won't know now. Beane can't do nothing bigger than what he has done until after June 1st.

65 Toss Power Trap.

Ben was never the same after his 2019 shoulder injury.

Samuel Shakir Coleman I'm starting to get some hope that at least one (maybe two) of these other guys can rejuvenate themselves to push the above 3 for playing time. Hamler Hollins Claypoole Cephus Shorter Shavers Isabella Thompson The UDFAs Each one, on their own, has the odds against them. But compared to other years, there is some inherent talent with these guys. The WR camp battles could get interesting. There is also a chance that someone else after June 1st joins the "longshots".

LOL, I'll try again. First, I didn't say Big Ben's play was "garbage", so don't insinuate I did. Ben's play was falling off his last season. Even in 2020 when he had the 3800 yards, he threw the ball 608 times. In 2014 Ben threw the ball 608 times too. He had 4,952 yards. He wasn't the same QB at the end and everyone who watched football knows that was true.

I would have liked Chark, but he signed for $5M. Beane couldn't sign him until after June 1st with the cap the way it is. Can't blame Chark for taking the money now.

Big Ben should have been retired during the Claypoole years in Pittsburgh. It wasn't like Ben in his prime. Claypoole had 9 games and 51 snaps in Miami as a TE. I'm not expecting Claypoole to make the team............but he does have talent if he wants to change his ways. I give it a one in three chance he changes his ways.

With Jones signing and the 1 UDFA that makes 8 so far. Plus the rookie camp invitee. You need camp bodies. I'm not sure what some of these other posters are worried about.

Filling out the camp LB room with a vet like this is pretty good. Especially since they will be bringing Milano around slow in camp.

For every 7.7 receptions Gabe gave up an interception to the defender. Compare that to Kincaid, who gave up an interception to the defender once every 36.5 receptions. These are receptions not targets, but I like this stat better. It's more of the risk/reward if you are the QB. I sure hope Coleman is more in line with Dalton!

I'm sure by camp they will bring some real competition for Hamlin at Safety.