Maine-iac

The Bill's O that had 3 picks, 2 fumbles, and a blocked kick? I mean we moved the ball a little better but mistakes vs the Pats always equals the same result.

Jones or Allen? I can't tell if this is the Bill's or Giants game anymore.

Don't kid yourselves. Manning won the SB after getting benched half the season. The way the Pat's defense is playing Brady doesn't have to do much.

Boy the Giants could use Barkley.

I can't picture the Giants D hanging in there like ours did for 4 quarters but Brady looks like he might help them out by playing like crap.

Hurry up by the Giants might help them ............ might not.

Eerily similar to another game we might all be familiar with. For the Giants sake I hope Jones doesn't throw 2 more picks.

Manning's worst year he won the SB. Hell Dennison was the OC and he is trash.

If it was any other team it's a fumble

Don't waste your challenge Shurmur

Hope the Giants don't plan on rushing only 3 too often.

Sony Michel putting himself on a short leash. Don't catch you don't play nearly as much.

Gronk was probably feeling the urge to go elbow drop someone who's laying on the bottom of the pile.

Don't hit the queen.

Horrible throw by Brady. Maybe Brady's eyesight is going with the rest of his body.

I would love to turn on a station and just get football. Having to listen to this gaggle of Dbags for 20 minutes before a game is sickening. What I wouldn't give for Berman and Tom Jackson.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see Zay turn out to be a good receiver. We are a defense driven team. We play in a lot of low scoring closely contested games. A wide receiver who can't make make a big catch unless the ball is thrown at him 10 times a game is going to have some rough weeks here. The Raiders secondary is trash and Carr is most likely going to be throwing all day in come from behind games. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Zay get on track if he gets the ball thrown at him 5 or 6 times a game for the rest of the season. He always had all the physical tools but for some reason he just couldn't put it together and most importantly he flat out dropped the ball too much.

I would say good point except Josh's QBR for the season is under 40 and you clearly don't understand how QBR works if you are trying to say he got a higher score during a game with a lead. QBR is win probability weighted by each play. In other words you are making stuff up. QBR explained

Look I can use part of what you actually typed and misquote people also ...................

I never have and never will understand the hate for Taylor. The guy played well for us here. A nobody free agent took a team with a horrible OC and no WR's and a part time TE to the playoffs for the first time in 20 years. Run out of town in the off season. Has nothing to do with Allen. I think Allen is great and will continue to be great. He throws that second pick 5 yards farther it's a TD and we possibly win the Pats game. I am not looking for or in any way advocating I wish we still had Taylor but I just don't get the hate.

I've wavered back and forth on my feelings with Josh and the amount of turnovers. In some respects I feel like he is going to cost us in important games and the Pats game was a fairly clear sign. That said the guy is just dangerous to the opposing teams. Like an 8 year old waiving a gun in a crowded room dangerous. Everyone is on high alert. You feel like a big play could happen any time. On a bad day the Pats game is what you get but even with that, as bad as it was, you have to feel like if he gets his head wrapped around everything and settles down it will be a dangerous that only the opposing team and fans are afraid of instead of everyone in the stadium. That one pass makes it to Zay (the one that was intercepted) and there's a good chance it's a TD and we win. Winning is the great eraser. As bad as he played, for the most part, he throws that one TD and he's still a savior.

I'm not entirely sure there weren't short passes there to be had. On several plays I've watched replays of there are short throws Allen is passing up to look deep and then either misses deep or holds the ball too long.

The LB covering the RB fell down on the second pick. If Allen was looking short instead of deep he could have hit the RB for a big gain.

You could argue that the first two picks on Josh weren't even that bad a decision (can't believe I'm doing this). Even with the coverage if Josh throws the first one 5 yards farther Brown was behind Gilmore. He was covered but he was behind Gilmore. Same thing with Zay if the pass was 5 yards further it's possibly a catch. So I'm on board with don't lose the gunslinger mentality. That said if you are going to be a gunslinger who is off by 5 yards on all your deep passes it's going to be a long day.

In keeping with this i will say if he actually gets that second interception to Zay it might have very well been a TD and there is the game we win. All that said you don't make mistakes and beat the Pats. So the current Josh Allen is going to have to learn if we want to go from good to serious contenders