Maine-iac

Yes but I'm not sure you want to press with Dane Jackson in coverage and Marlowe behind him. Getting gashed up the middle with Jones out and Phillips playing with one arm and no of your edge rushers getting home fast enough. Just too many injuries. Looking back you could see it coming when we gave up that many points to NE and Miami with sub par QB's playing us.

We didn't just let them play pitch and catch .............. we let them run all over the place also.

This is roughly the score in our game at halftime. White and Poyer went down in the 3rd to go along with all the other injuries. The difference will be if the Bengals get something going on offense. I am going to get crazy and say something I've never said before .................... run the damn ball. JK ........... I said that all season long.

JJ Watt agrees.

Remember when we signed Mario Williams and then had Wahnstedt (spelling) as the DC. They were so bad. Bring in Pettine and then Schwatz and Mario was a beast.

It is all predicated on tight coverage and a front four that can rush. If your coverage can't cover (injuries) and your front four can't rush (talent and injuries) then no matter how you shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic the movie ends the same.

Sexy in photos when you're drunk?

This is not the defense we played with Lorenzo Alexander. We changed a lot after Kyle and Alexander retired.

Spags stopped Brady, Moss and Welker. He's not afraid of Burrow.

Can I agree and disagree at the same time? We were to injured on defense to play what we set out to play this season. I have to think if we had a healthy Miller, Phillips, Jones, Hyde, Poyer and White we would have been much more competitive. On offense Dorsey is still learning but I agree we have to learn to take some easy high percentage stuff and run the ball and not just try to block it up and throw deep all the time.

KC kicks another FG and there's almost no damage done. Be intersting to see.

If he catches it and crosses the line is it a TD before he hits the ground?

Is Toney the one from the Giants?

Spags is not afraid to bring the heat.

it was 17 to 10 at one point. A couple of second half stops would have made a huge difference. That said at that point White and Poyer were also injured so I'm not sure everyone would have been covered long enough for even a good DT to get there.

Open mouth insert foot. I'll own that.

Not saying he should be a starter but don't sleep on Johnson he's not awful. I'll probably regret typing this.

Most LB's would love to play behind that front 4. Not that Warner isn't good but he is in a good situation that helps.

Crazy idea .......... not every run goes for 10 but you keep running it.

I can't disagree but we didn't have to worry about that with Oliver, he never blew up. We were better with Darious than without him. We still had Kyle. After the two of them got done we've never had a presence in the middle like we did with them. Payne has way more size than Oliver and has, at the very least, shown an abliity to get to the QB. If the dollars were the same in the end I might think Payne has more upside.

He's pretty old now but Josh Johnson used to have some wheels.

49's just swarm. That line plays in the backfield all day. Same with the Eagles.

Am I crazy for thinking swap Payne for Oliver?

McDermott and Co made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor throwing to Deonte Thompson and Kelvin Benjamin lest we forget. People are getting kind of crazy and taking things for granted. It could be a hell of lot worse.

No turnovers and 4 takeaways on defense always helps. Coincidentally Klein always played pretty well here.