Buffalo03

I think I might have less respect for Belichick than you lol

Yeah, Monday night football has been extremely bad matchup wise the last couple of years. It's annoying the Bills struggle to get a Monday night game but the NFL will schedule a game like Cleveland at Giants. It's a game that I would watch simply because it's the NFL but it's certainly not a game I would give two craps about

This is actually an interesting scenario. A swap of 2019 firsts and a 2019 3rd and maybe in throw in a 2020 3rd for Julio. I would actually like that a lot

Were they really that great of a team? I don't think so. Chad Pennington and Mark Sanchez as QBs. Two fluke years under Rex Ryan. What have they done since 2011? Nothing and the Bills and Dolphins have sucked the whole time

The Bills, Dolphins and Jets have sucked as franchises over the last 20 years. That's why they have been through a lot of coaches and GMs. Not Belichick

I don't think anyone who is saying it would make no difference because of the Pats records against those teams currently is taking into effect that they would be playing those teams twice a year. The Ravens have always given the Pats a hard time even in NE. The Pats playing them once they probably win. Playing them a second time in Baltimore, I don't think it's that much of a guarantee. The Pats lost in Pittsburgh this season and almost lost in Pittsburgh last season if not for that catch controversy. The Pats have averaged 12 wins or more every year pretty much and I honestly believe playing those other teams twice a year gives them another loss or two which then gives them a higher chance of being knocked out of a first round bye that they have been getting every year. They aren't as good in the playoffs when they play on wild card weekend

It's pretty close. It usually takes most coaches the 2nd year to turns things around. Some can do it the first year but they were still a much better team after he got there. I think you're giving Belichick too much credit for Parcells. Does he deserve some credit? Sure, but in the end it was more Parcells than Belichick. If the Bills weren't so stubborn they would have beaten Belichick's magnificent game plan in SB 25. Belichick said himself that he was hoping we weren't going to start the game running the ball because they would have been in trouble. The Bills lived and died by passing the ball and the K-Gun that got them there and they refused to change. Thurman had like 15 carries for 133 yards. If the Bills weren't so stubborn, it could have been a different story.

Yes but you're not taking into account that he had already turned the team around before he got there. The Patriots were awful before Parcells got there and then he came right in and in his second season takes them to the playoffs. I wouldn't call that "meh"

I have posted about this before. I personally don't think we will have to give up a first to get Julio at his age and I think that the Falcons could give him up for a few reasons 1. Julio held out for more money last training camp and failed to show up until they reworked his deal. I really don't think the Falcons are gonna want to deal with this again especially since this will be their last chance to get something reasonable for him considering he's 30 2. The Falcons don't really have a whole lot of cap space. And having Julio on their roster really hasn't made much of a difference the last couple of years for them even with paying him all that money 3. They drafted Calvin Ridley last year who caught 6 or 7 TDs as a rookie. They might be willing to move on from Julio to see what they have in Ridley 4. the Falcons need major defensive help and will need a ton of draft capital to build it back up and will probably be willing to accumulate some picks to do so Julio is the guy I want Beane to go after the most

He still took a crappy to mediocre cowboys team that I don't think made the playoffs for like 5 straight seasons before he got there and took them to the playoff his first season with them with a terrible QB. He had some bad seasons with the Giants to but still won 2 SBs with them. He got to New England without Belichick his first few years there and turned them into a contending team after they were awful for a while and that was while Belichick was in Cleveland. I understand Belichick is Belichick but the guy was nothing more than an assistant with any of those Parcells teams. A DC or assistant isn't gonna turn an entire team into a great team. It was Parcells, not as much Belichick

Dick Jauron? You can't make that comparison. Bill Parcells is a HOF coach with a proven track record with multiple teams. The guy turned around every franchise he was a part of. Dave Campo did nothing with Quincy before he got there. How about Jimmy Johnson? You can argue he was just meh with Miami but I think Jimmy should be in the hall for what he did with the Cowboys. Parcells still had 2 playoff appearances in Dallas. I'd be willing to bet a crappy coach or even mediocre coach doesn't make the playoffs with Quincy

He turned the Cowboys around his very first year there. The guy took Quincy Carter to the playoffs. Enough said

Anytime the Pats have made the Super Bowl they have been a number 1 or 2 seed. They have never made the Super Bowl when less than a 2 seed

The Dolphins were good back then to. So we at least played against another team twice a year that was a great team. The Pats have not had to worry about one great Dolphins, Bills or Jets team at all in the 20 years they have been dominant

Dee Ford is the reason for that

So you don't think 6 games a year against the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals would have made any difference? Those have been much better teams than the Jets, Bills and Dolphins. I don't think 9 Super Bowl apparences is possible in that division

They only play 2 opponents per year that are different than what the rest of the division plays. Every team in the division plays one whole other division and one whole NFC division.

Those extra regular season losses lead to less number 1 and number 2 seeds every year in the playoffs though

I was thinking today, what if the Pats didn't have 6 games a year against the Bills, Dolphins and Jets? Let's say they switched places with the Browns and were in the AFC North with the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals. Are they still as good today? I think it's possible that they may have gone to a few Super Bowls but not 9. I personally think 6 guaranteed wins every year against the AFC East or 5-1 or 4-2 at the very worst has had a lot to do with their dominance. If they played 6 games a year against the Steelers, Bengals and Ravens, I honestly think they lose an extra 2 to 3 wins a year just from being in a much tougher division. I know them being in the AFC East is no fault of their own. However, I don't see the dominance they have had the last 20 years outside of the East

I think it was the most boring. The next I would have to say was the Ravens and Giants in SB XXXV

That play where Goff got drilled out of bounds, if that was Brady, that's a flag for sure

The bottom line is, Gilmore held Cook's arm which allowed him not to get his other hand up to catch it. It was even brought up by Romo. Gilmore also never looked back for the ball. If it's called PI like it should have been, it would have been first and goal at the 1. Plain and simple

Sure they were. I would love for the same people that praise Belichick for this to give McDermott credit for the same thing if he was to do it. Beat all the teams you should beat and then get destroyed by the good ones and say "But they were 11-5". I bet most of those people would find a way to say that his wins were non impressive because most were against non playoff teams. But this is Belichick were talking about so everything he does is impressive

I get that. But you can't say "oh, look what he did without Brady" when 9 out of 11 wins came against non playoff teams 4 of which were 5-11 or worse and then 4 out of 5 losses against teams that did go to the playoffs and 3 of those teams they got destroyed by. With that kind of schedule any good coach could have done the same thing.

They went 11-5 in 2008 but only beat two teams with a winning record and those teams were only 9-7 Cardinals and then the 11-5 Dolphins (who actually destroyed the Patriots in New England). The Cardinals game was a late season blizzard in New England. The Dolphins who made the playoffs but weren't a very good team themselves coming off a 1-15 season the year before. They won 8 of 11 games against teams with losing records and another against the Jets who went 9-7 but missed the playoffs as well. 4 of those games against teams with losing records went 5-11 or worse. The teams they beat were a combined 71-105. Ironically, out of Their 5 losses, 4 of them came against teams with winning records and 3 of those losses were a 38-13 loss in New England to the Dolphins, a 30-10 loss to the Chargers and a 33-10 loss to the Steelers. Their record against teams they lost to were 52-28 I hate how people talk about how Belichick went 11-5 without Brady. They had an extremely easy schedule and lost to really good teams. Three of those teams they got destroyed by. So how good were they really?