Richard Noggin

Underrated point in this thread: San Fran is the most interesting destination for CMC from the perspective of a neutral NFL fan. Excited to see Shanahan's plans for him.

Recalling, during the 2017 season, the rookie GM Beane openly "hoping" for college prospect JA17 to have a "down" final year so his draft stock remained realistically acquire-able outside the impenetrable top-5 in a QB-rich draft class. Problem is, I can't recall if Beane informally shared this prescient gem in-person at Tempo to a guest plus us non-media workers, or if this confessional intel was uttered above-board via interview. 100% I remember him openly/"sarcastically" hoping that Allen kid/QB at Wyoming had a disappointing season so his draft value didn't elevate beyond their reach. Because I cannot find it online, and I have a clear memory of this humorous-but-honest quote being uttered between tables 2 and 5 as Beane was leaving, I'm forced to feel like i was privvy to his playful, but prescient admission: "Hope that Josh Allen kid at Wyoming has a bad senior season."

I'm afraid many of the posters in this thread are judging the Chiefs fanbase primarily off of that message board. That's so obviously misguided, yet here we are as message board contributors, over-valuing this online space. In real life, from what I've heard from so many, and from a few in this thread, is that the Chiefs fanbase is generally VERY respectful to visiting fans. This is NOT the case everywhere in the NFL (including Buffalo at times, although I'd argue we've handled recent success reasonably well in this regard). Social media forums are so easily sullied by a toxic minority of contributors. This is why vigilant moderation is so essential to healthy discourse. Makes me appreciate the work of those who help to keep this forum a respectful and rewarding space for sharing.

The best touchdown celebrations of all time belong to Steve Smith, IMHO. And this video isn't half bad, either. LOVE the access to even a fraction of what ELITE training and treatment facilities and professionals are like. And of course a little bit of McD's sincere kool-aid at the end for good measure.

The Jets and the Dolphins are relatively stacked with highly drafted/acquired players throughout their rosters. The main difference is the Dolphins feature some more established, well-paid players who have dramatically outplayed their respective draft positions. Either way, both teams are capable of making life difficult for any opponent. The drought-era Bills, on the other hand, perpetually fielded a lineup of PUZZLINGLY OVER-DRAFTED Day One players who underperformed or outright busted, one or two high profile, overpaid assets, and a motley depth chart of plucky but outclassed (often undersized) JAGs. They were mostly mediocre, and almost never dangerous.

Your first point is an important one. There were so many injuries at one point, especially on defense, that it clearly wasn't the Jimmies and the Joes. The secondary, especially, minus maybe one play down in the Miami debacle, has played very well despite at times missing ALL FOUR STARTERS at boundary CB and S. I know the front is stacked this year, but they also were missing 3 out of 4 DTs as well. It's gotta be that Frazier and McDermott (and the staff they've assembled) are ELITE coaches, especially with respect to teaching and developing. The depth guys have been ready and able to execute their assignments. This might also suggest our personnel dept does a great job bringing in the right players for these coaches to work with. It's often difficult, in football, to isolate proper credit/accountability. SO many layers of variables. Why I love the sport so much. The interconnected complexity is like a societal or at least organizational microcosm played out in clearly quantifiable contests. (As to your second point, I thought Milano was actually a bit terrible (for him) in the first half: often and surprisingly a step behind, slow, or out of place. Seemed like the Chiefs targeted him as the conflict defender on multiple occasions, and got the best of him. He DID turn it around as the game went on.)

To be fair, Daboll is elite at the interpersonal component of coaching. He values the human element of the game more than some, without being a pushover. Which when combined with game-planning acumen and overall aptitude, sounds like the makeup of a solid head coach. I don't know enough about Dorsey, beyond his demonstrable and oft-cited competitiveness, to have an opinion on his capacity for being the head guy.

Yeah, but knowing me, I'd throw away his post-its or pretend I didn't see him pointing to some obviously correct red flags.

Because it's legal now? I mean, rules get revised and updated and hopefully streamlined all the time. So what rules USED TO BE has very little bearing on what they ARE. I feel like catches, for example, aren't the effing counter-intuitive nightmare they used to be.

I'm watching the Yankees try to stay alive.

Well then eff me I guess? I'm okay with being wrong. It's okay. I'm fine with it. Okay?!

Would HAVE blown them out, tbh

Right. But the post I was responding to seemed to welcome the "outing" of everything while ALSO sticking it to those wishing to "cancel" Snyder. But it seems like the only way things go nuclear is IF Dan Snyder is removed from NFL ownership...so there's an inherent contradiction (as you may well recognize)

I've heard from multiple Bills fans who have attended the recent games in KC that their fans, in person, are generally respectful and welcoming. Which, unsurprisingly, appears to stand in stark contrast to the online hoards. Imagine that.

This past week saw some RPO success, whereas, to my eye at least, earlier in the season it wasn't being run as effectively. We also saw the Bills incorporating more Pin-n-Pull run concepts, which has me wondering if Dorsey is moving towards marrying RPOs with gap/power running concepts, whereas, to my eye at least, earlier in the season he was hoping to marry play-action with wide zone running concepts? I know that ideally each week is its own challenge which inspires its own solutions, but we saw what happened late last year when the offense shifted its blocking concepts in the same direction we've just begun to see already this year. Hopefully it's a trend in the direction of self-efficacy.

Just so we're clear, this hopeful scenario (which I welcome) DEFINITELY still involves the expulsion of Dan Snyder from the NFL ownership ranks, yes?

No offense, but that exact point was pretty extensively discussed on this board and everywhere else people comment on the NFL with any granular detail. I mean, you're not wrong about those timeouts being like exponential accelerants to our collective righteous indignation. But alas, this pain has been given no shortage of space for processing already.

Little late for fantasy drafts, innit. Plus, a FEW drafts in one night? That's rigorous.

Do you mean to levy criticism of McDermott's late game management against the Kansas City Chiefs in the 2021-22 NFL Divisional Round playoffs?! This is unheard of. How DARE you, sir!

THIS is exactly what I hope Dorsey and Kromer keep working towards. It's how they finally hit their stride on offense last season, and I suspect, despite Roger Saffold's fairly zone-reliant scheme fit, that this unit is already discovering that ain't ***** changed. The current OL personnel (minus the LG) excel when NOT running the wide zone scheme McD has been seeking since he was hired. And again, conversely, we're seeing that what they CAN execute are gap/power/pin-n-pull concepts. And luckily, they have the organizational mindset to abandon preferences in favor of results. I hope they keep moving away from zone for now, in favor of what they do well.

Agreed. I do NOT want this change to even be discussed much. I don't think a large portion of the Bills fanbase could handle it. We should shut up now.

Losing the William Cody part of the team's branding would have almost ZERO impact on how we think about or root for the team. And it's not like you have to stop using the Shout song or other such rituals. It's just that it's kind of dumb and a bit terrible to have a decorated Bison "hunter" and Indian fighter be the namesake of a Billion-dollar team. Those were not noble pursuits, in retrospect. I'm not saying we NEED to do this. I don't even WANT us to. But if we did, I'm good with that, too.

It's when he high fives himself after getting ignored following an offensive TD.

Totally agree. BUT, I suspect there is a Troy Aikman who has actual, human opinions. We just don't get to hear that guy call games. Wasn't there something a few years back where Aikman was caught on a hot mic during a pregame military flyover making some offhand comments to Joe Buck? I don't know. I probably wouldn't like the REAL Troy Aikman, but I definitely would at least appreciate a less wooden personality on the air. Collinsworth, on the other hand, is intolerable to listen to. So "grating," as you aptly put it.

Meh. Bills should probably be the Bisons anyways. ZERO thought of their actual namesake ever, by anyone. It's all just bison imagery and iconography. And it's better that way. I don't know a ton about William Cody, but I could make some guesses at how he gained initial notoriety (killing native americans and/or native bisons, ironically), and neither of them are a good look in retrospect. So if we need to grow past that flawed legacy, cool. I don't WANT that to happen, but I'm FINE if it were to happen.