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At last night's Town Hall, Covid Donnie also bleated that he was "against pedophilia" under questioning from NBC's Savannah Guthrie when she kept asking about why he refused to denounce Qanon. He's apparently against pedophilia except when his pals engage in it, in which case he pretends "he knew nothing".

Elections are won or lost on perceptions. In 2016, many voters perceived Covid Donnie to be an effective leader -- he was supposedly a "successful businessman" -- but they've learned differently. Now he has a public record as POTUS, and it says "INCOMPETENCE". It is what is. You accused Biden of lying, so you list them -- and include better "proof" than some moron posting unsupport BS on Twitter. Let me guess, you get your economic news from Twitter, right?

Trump and Epstein were thick as thieves for decades. Given Trump's attitudes toward women, I can't believe he and Epstein didn't share "war stories", so I can't believe that Trump didn't know that Epstein was banging young girls. Either Trump didn't give a damn about it or he was so desperate for Epstein's "friendship" that he ignored it. Maybe Trump was worse than simply complicit. If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's reasonable to believe it might be a duck. Maybe Nate just needed to say his piece, election be damned.

October 16, 2020 - US recorded the highest number of new cases -- 61+K -- overnight. October 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 363,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by January 1, 2021 and more than 394,000 by February 1, 2021 with the seasonal flu making the coronavirus more deadly. Don't be a dumbass like Covid Donnie who has the luxury of the federal government paying the bill for his recent hospitalization for Covid-19. Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Hospitalization for Covid-19 averages about $20-30k above what private or public (Medicare, Medicaid) health insurance covers. October 15, 2020 - 217,717 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 813. October 14, 2020 - 216,904 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 909. Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 8-9, 2020: 861 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 7-13, 2020: 851 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, September 30-October 6, 2020: 707 October 13, 2020 - 215,995 Americans have died of coronavirus. October 6, 2020 - 210,909 Americans have died of coronavirus. October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day. October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus. September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus. July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

What's your point???

I'm with snafu on his points above and the others he's made in the rest of his posts. I come to PPP to discuss political issues, and it's hard to have discussions if everybody shares the same views, which I'm afraid might likely happen in the club format.

They're in the thread Covid-19 vs Trump. Spikes in hospitalizations eventually lead to spikes in deaths, starting about 3 weeks out from when patients enter the hospital. Deaths probably won't occur as frequently as they did in the spring because the symptoms are well known, testing is more widespread, treatments are better, and people are entering hospitals earlier, before they're critically ill. The threat of the local medical system being overwhelmed is very real. In rural areas and small cities, just10 critically ill covid patients can overwhelm the resources available. We saw that in parts of rural Texas this spring and early summer where there simply no more beds available and patients had to be med evac'd by helicopter to other hospitals. Moreover, hospitals in some of the hardest hit metropolitan areas were able to get extra staff from around the country because the pandemic was only in a relatively few areas. Now, it's everywhere, and medical staff in many areas are already stretched thin.

Exactly this. Facebook and Twitter and other social media platforms are privately owned, so there's no "free speech" on any of them just whatever "speech" the owner(s) allow. It's why every user has to agree to the terms of service before joining. This concept seems impossible for you Righties to comprehend You could always start your own social media site dedicated to the worship of Covid Donnie and the promotion of Alt Right stupidity, but that would take money, ambition, business savvy, and technical expertise. It would also seriously cut into your time to commiserate with your fellow snowflakes in whinefests about "censorship" on PPP.

"It's the economy, stupid" -- defacto campaign slogan for Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign. New unemployment claims have been running about 750-800k weekly since about late August. The unemployment rate is running about 8%. Entire industries like travel and tourism and entertainment have been devastated. Small businesses coast to coast are failing with regularity. In 1928, Republican Herbert Hoover won the presidency in a landslide over Al Smith. In 1932, because of the Great Depression that Hoover couldn't deal with effectively, he lost in an even bigger landslide to Democrat Franklin Roosevelt, and the Republicans didn't win the White House for the next twenty years. The US economy isn't going to significantly improve until the pandemic is brought under control, and Trump has proven incapable and disinterested in doing that.

It's an interesting approach but it doesn't mean a whole lot for the actual election unless it accounts for where these social media posts are coming from, which I don't think it can do on Twitter or FB or other social media. Hillary won the popular vote in 2016 by nearly 3 million votes but lost in the Electoral College 304 to 227, so I'm not sure how the advocates for this approach can make the claim that their way would have better predicted a Trump win. In a direct election where popular vote is all that matters, this method might be a valid polling approach, but not in US presidential elections where it's not necessarily how many votes a candidates wins but in what states he or she wins them that counts.

Plus significant votes for third party candidates in some states that cost Hillary battleground states like Wisconsin.

October 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 363,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by January 1, 2021 and more than 394,000 by February 1, 2021 with the seasonal flu making the coronavirus more deadly. Don't be a dumbass like Covid Donnie who has the luxury of the federal government paying the bill for his recent hospitalization for Covid-19. Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Hospitalization for Covid-19 averages about $20-30k above what private or public (Medicare, Medicaid) health insurance covers. October 14, 2020 - 216,904 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 909. Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 7-13, 2020: 851 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, September 30-October 6, 2020: 707 October 13, 2020 - 215,995 Americans have died of coronavirus. October 6, 2020 - 210,909 Americans have died of coronavirus. October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day. October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus. September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus. July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

You're quoting the American Institute of Physics? What could they possibly know about anything, especially about masks? Common sense says masks are useless in stopping the spread of coronavirus. //sarcasm off

Here's an interesting chart relating Covid-19 and state partisanship: Covid-19 Cases and Partisanship by State since June 1, 2020

What kind of cheese do you like with your whine, snowflake?

When the economy is doing poorly, which is the case with the US economy despite to Trump's assertions otherwise, incumbents suffer. Both Carter and Bush 41, the only elected Presidents in the last half century to serve only 1 term were both done in by poor economies. High voter turnout frequently reflects voters' dissatisfaction with the incumbent's performance in office, whether president or governor.

Trump will be remembered as the worst POTUS ever, not simply not up to the job or incompetent or corrupt but all three plus also a wannabe dictator who tried to undermine the electoral process.

I'm not talking about the "Drain the Swamp" crowd because they're enamored of Covid Donnie's macho facade. I'm talking about the many Republicans and right leaning Independents who may not vote at all rather than vote for Biden unless they have a reason to do so. GWB's endorsement might bring them out -- and save some Reps and Senators in tight races.

There was a former George W Bush staffer/advisor on a CNN show a couple of nights ago who said he thought that GWB would endorse Biden. That would have a much bigger impact than a Romney endorsement IMO.

Actually Covid Donnie is a sick caricature of a clown.

Believe what you want.

they sought to make fundamental (hence "radical") changes within institutions and remove from political life persons and institutions that threatened their values or economic interests. Yes, I do. If Biden wins 271 EC votes, then he's won the election. Republican Senators, just like Democratic Senators, and voters of whatever party affiliation or not, love their country. Moreover, politicians are always worried about their next election. I can't see them sacrificing both their country and their careers to support an incompetent wannabe dictator whom the electorate has already rejected. The Radical Right is made up of the extreme conservatives who want to turn the clock back to the 19th century. Neo-liberals crossed with social Darwinists probably describes them best. I hope that shoe doesn't fit you. Unfortunately, it fits some Republican officeholders/candidates too well.

I think that the Republicans will continue to be dominated by the Radical Right for a few more election cycles -- until they get tired of continually losing because their ideas don't resonate with most Americans -- or the party fades away and results in the rise of a new party that's fiscally conservative and socially moderate. A lot of rank-and-file Republicans have become independents already. Trump doesn't really have a political organization; he's got a personal following made up of family and sycophants. Trump's 2016 victory was a reflection with the American electorate's unease with the way the country was going, but he's not only failed to deliver on any of his 2016 promises, his handling of the pandemic has revealed his stupidity, incompetence and self-absorption. Trump's supporters in the GOP have been tarred with that same brush, and as soon as it becomes clear that Covid Donnie is done -- as in Biden accumulates 271 EC votes -- GOP politicians will bail on him. It's already happening. In my Congressional district, Tom Reed, ardent Trumpster in 2016, hasn't mentioned "Trump" in his re-election bid at all. Hell, you wouldn't even know he's a Republican.

Exactly. Originally, the new Congress was seated in December after the election and the President and VP didn't take office until March of the following year. The Twentieth Amendment changed that to Congress taking office on January 3 and the President/Vice President on January 20. The Attorney General has no standing in this issue. In a disputed election, the new Congress sworn in on January 3 decides. That's also specified in the 20th Amendment. It's likely that the new Congress sworn in on January 3 will be Democratic but even if the Republicans hold on to the Senate, I think that enough Republican Senators -- perhaps even all -- will join the Democrats to give Biden the election because they care about their country and its institutions. They don't want to turn a wannabe dictator into a actual one.

October 13, 2020 - The U of Washington's IMHE projects that more than 363,000 Americans could die of the coronavirus by January 1, 2021 and more than 394,000 by February 1, 2021 with the seasonal flu making the coronavirus more deadly. Don't be a dumbass like Covid Donnie who has the luxury of the federal government paying the bill for his recent hospitalization for Covid-19. Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Hospitalization for Covid-19 averages about $20-30k above what private or public (Medicare, Medicaid) health insurance covers. October 13, 2020 - 215,995 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 906. October 12, 2020 - 215,089 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 318. October 11, 2020 - 214,771 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 434. October 10, 2020 - 214,337 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 489. October 9, 2020 - Public health officials, including Dr Deborah Birx, warns of a troubling increase in coronavirus cases in the Northeast. (Dr Birx warns of new Covid-19 threat) October 9, 2020 - 213,787 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1003. October 8, 2020 - 212,784 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 1875. October 7, 2020 - 210,909 Americans have died of coronavirus with a single day death toll of 935. Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 7-13, 2020: 851 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, September 30-October 6, 2020: 707 October 13, 2020 - 215,995 Americans have died of coronavirus. October 6, 2020 - 210,909 Americans have died of coronavirus. October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day. October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus. September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus. July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.