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There is nothing posiitve about the guy from a football standpoint. May have been worth the headaches when he could play football but even then he was doing stupid low class things like bringing his own bottles of alcohol to bars. Some people see him as this loveable buffon, but that act wears thin quickly. I cannot stand how he is hailed like a hero in the Oakland area. Granted he gives time and money to the community, but what would go a lot further would for him to be a responsible man kids can look up to and shape their lives after. Instead they get someone hailed as a hero who fails to respect any authority, swears on live television, and hits on married women for the world to see. Sorry but the guy is a clown and the NFL will be better when his "I am doing the world a favor by being here" attitude is gone.

I've seen you say this a couple time, that Rosen's footwork is great and he has a quick release. I have tried amazingly hard to come around on him, watched him on TV, watched eight games of every throw film and what I keep coming back to is a guy who isnt overally athletic, who holds the ball too long, has trouble with accuracy on medium to long throws, and consistenly throws off his back foot. Still think he is in the top tier of players coming out this year but I am having a really hard time selling myself on him for the Bills.

Maybe I am wrong, but I dont think you're remembering this correctly. HIs first year was with Chan, then he had two years with Marone and two with Rex. He was always a poor tackler. His last year with Marone was mediocre, same with his first with Rex. He has decent ball skills but has always made huge mental errors and isnt near physical enough.

With the 2018 class coming to Earth a bit, a few names to consider during the next few months are Nick Stevens from Colorado State Ryan Finley from North Carolina State and kind of a super sleeper who probably stays in school another year Justice Hansen from Arkansas State. Logan Woodside from Toledo is a guy who has never seemed to enter the conversation of draftable Quarterbacks but seems like his stats have always been on the upside. Again, not guys I've spent a lot of time watching but will invest some time into over the next few weeks. Not sure if anyone here has seen much of them?

And Allen is a mid rounder by arm talent alone. Keep hearing the Carson Wentz comparison because he is from a smaller school, difference being Wentz was a winner at said school. Allen routinely finds ways to throw up all over himself. When his game starts to go south on tape watch out.

Box score analysis or not, four years into his career Sammy is who his stats say he is. I keep hearing about him having Elite Talent, guess what its the NFL everyone in the league has elite talent or they wouldnt be there. He will be on his third team in two years at the begining of next year, not many elite guys have that said about them.

The Bills offense is unwatchable. First year Ive enjoyed College more than the NFL and honestly have found myself enjoying other NFL games more than the Bills. Been a weird year for sure.

Makes sense. If he stays Mason Rudolph has to be considered the best prospect left. Falk and Browning are starting to show their limitations. Finley from NC State may be a late riser.

I can see why Darnold would go back, a red shirt Sophomore, hasnt graduated etc. But with all the heartburn Rosen has about being in school and also being a graduate what keeps him there if he is alreadly the number one prospect? The class is coming to Earth fast, like it always seems to do. You and Ive discussed it but I cant get on board with Rosen.

I would agree here, albeit partially. Preston Brown is not the long term answer at MLB. However, Bowman probably needs to be on a 3-4 Defense where he can focus on the run as his days being a help in the passing game are behind him. Not worth trading a pick for as he doesnt help us past the short term either.

From day one I thought a good comparison for Shaq in the NFL would be Brandon Graham. At pick 19 it's a long shot you get a 10 to 15 sack a year guy, but I completely disagree Lawson hasnt been a solid player this year, especially for being a a low 1st round pick. He is trending towards 38 tackles for 6.5 sacks, and if you go by stats alone, which your shouldnt thats the type of year you should expect. I think he is right on track. There should have never been an expectation he was going to come in and be a ten sack a year guy, he isnt that type of player.

Cam is a piece of work but man I wish we had the first pick that year

Second awful play of the night for Worley. Got juked out of his cleats by the agile Legarette Blount earlier

Both your replies were dead on. I am not sure if it's because he is Peyton's brother or because of his slack jawed mouth agap lost look, but Eli is one of the most underappreciated Quarterbacks of all time. This isnt a Tyrod thread, but your point on him is wonderfully put.

On pace for 45 catches 675 yards and 6 touchdowns. Doesnt scream 14 million dollar wideout to me.

He is and continues to be awful, except now he has decided not to use his feet. Completely futile

When did 6.2 yards an attempt, 106 yrds no touchdowns and a pick become good for a quarterback?

Dont see it at all with Thorson. He and Drew Locke come up as darlings in the scouting world so I am obviously missing something on both of them.

Agree to disagree on this one. I think it's close but Fournette was incredibly underrated as a pass catcher, averaged 12 yards a reception to Zeke's 8. Fournette was trending towards, if not on the same level as Peterson after his Sophomore year. I think his Junior year changed a lot of that, but it was clear he had checked out and was on to the NFL.

I would go Peterson and Fournette before Barkley if we are going that far back to someone like Barry Sanders. Barkley is a great prospect, for sure top ten guy but I wouldnt put him over the two I mentioned before until the end of the year.

Thread ended. Couldnt be more dead on.

Unlike the Bills the Rams are doing the right thing and building around a quarterback they picked in the 1st round. Honestly, the Bills should have went for it this year. I have to imagine McBeane gets more than just three years to do this thing, think about it next year will be the first year with a new quarterback of their choosing and they will already be in year two. Does it make any sense to fire them in year three with only two full years with the quarterback they chose? If they get anything less than four years here it will be a mistake.

He doesnt know how to throw wideouts open and he wont risk throwing to someone who is even half way covered to try and let his wideout win. There is no excuse for an NFL quarterback to throw under 150 yards in a game, none. He may not be the only issue, but he is the only player on the team that can impact those problems enough to mask them or illuminate them. They better figure out if they want to try and make the playoffs, fail and win six to seven games or if they want to get a franchise quarterback because while the draft has two or three of them potentially they wont be there at 12 or 15 or whatever pick we end up with trying to win now and win later

Agree with Polian. Watched his first two games this year and while he has improved as a passer, and makes some nice seam passes he doesnt have the ability to make timing passes with a great deal of accuracy.

Not talking about one play. I think his body of work is incredibly hyped because he makes for a good article. Ive watched the games, I am not impressed. He holds the ball a very long time for someone who is flawless in his ability to read defenses and drop "dimes". I think he is a first round guy but I dont think he should enter the conversation for top ten. He has accuracy and leadership issues, not a proven winner, and his arm strength is overblown. I Dont know how he'd be on USC, no clue but I know I dont think he is as good as the hype suggests, and if he wasnt verbose I dont think a lot of others would either.